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  • Articles on Women folks by Islamic intellectuals..
     OP - December 02, 2011, 10:02 PM

    Well let us start this topic that is quite useful to understand the logic and thinking of Islamic intellectuals on Muslim women of Early Islam.
     
    The women of Karbala by Asghar Ali Engineer  

    Mr.  Asghar Ali Engineer  is  a well known writer and  is an Islamic scholar who heads the Center for Study of Society & Secularism, Mumbai. He wrote many books  and articles in support early Islam and against present Islamic values that one sees in many countries.
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    TRADITIONAL Muslim set-ups place many restrictions on women. They cannot even venture out of their homes; most are required to restrict themselves to performing household chores only. Few Muslim women take up public roles; fewer still participate in outdoor events.

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    All this is being done in the name of Islam by the self-styled guardians of social norms. However, if we cast a glance on the early history of Islam we find women taking part in various events alongside men. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had from Hazrat Khadija four daughters and brought them up as model women who participated in his revolution.

    Islam’s was not only a spiritual but also a social revolution. It empowered women and gave them equal rights which was unthinkable at that time. Women played at best a secondary role in any civilisation in the seventh century CE. However, Islam raised their status and assigned them an equal role in all worldly affairs along with men. Many women, like Umm-i-Ammara, even took part in various battles which the Prophet had to fight. In the Battle of Uhud, Umm-i-Ammara took the attack of a sword on her arm and saved the life of the Prophet.


    Hazrat Fatima, as all Muslims agree, was indeed very close to her father, and thus Muslims highly revere her. She too was brought up by the Prophet enshrining the highest values of Islam. Her sons, Imam Hasan and Husain, were equally loved. Her daughter, Hazrat Zainab, played a pivotal role in the aftermath of the battle of Karbala. Bibi Shehar Banu was the daughter of Kisra, the King of Persia who was defeated by the Muslims, and Hazrat Ali married her to his son, Husain.

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    Shaher Banu also faced the tragic events at Karbala very bravely and sacrificed her two sons, Ali Akbar and Ali Asghar, in the way of Allah. It is important to note that when Imam Husain was leaving Makkah for Kufa (Iraq) in response to the letters he had received from many important citizens of Kufa to lead them in their fight against Yazid (who had usurped khilafat in violation of the condition laid down by Imam Hasan while abdicating in favour of Ameer Muawiyah), Imam Husain was advised by his well-wishers not to take his family along to Kufa. It was feared the people of Kufa might betray him.

    However, despite the risks, Imam Husain turned down the advice and took along all his family members, including women and children. He knew that the women, who included his wife, his sisters and daughters, would play a very important role even if he had to fight against Yazid’s forces in or near Kufa. The people of Kufa did betray him even though they were the ones who had invited him to lead them in a fight against Yazid’s tyranny.


    Yazid stood for all that was against Islamic norms. Not only was his lifestyle against that of the Prophet (PBUH) and his companions he also tried to destroy the institution of khilafat by introducing monarchy. This was totally against the revolutionary spirit of the political system introduced by Islam. Husain perhaps knew, before he left for Kufa, what was in store and he deliberately took women along with him to show to the world that women could also play a role in saving the Islamic way of life.

    The women of the Karbala tragedy did play a role which was no less significant than that of the male companions of the Imam.

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    The Imam was right: his women played a pivotal role, particularly the Imam’s sister, Hazrat Zainab. After the martyrdom of Husain and his colleagues, Imam Zainul Abidin and all women and children were arrested and taken to Damascus on camelback via Kufa. Bibi Zainab, a brave and bold woman, addressed Muslims everywhere along the way, exposing Yazid and his evil actions and un-Islamic acts.

    Bibi Zainab and the Imam’s entire family were kept in prison in Damascus. When they were brought to Yazid’s court, Zainab eloquently spoke in front of Yazid’s courtiers and thoroughly exposed him. She never shied from her mission, so much so that he had to release her and the Imam’s entire family. They were sent back to Madina with their security being ensured.

    Syeda Zainab’s role was exemplary. It showed how bold Muslim women were and how they played a key role in consolidating Islamic teachings. Today, despite so much progress and the spread of education, so many Muslim women are suppressed. In Saudi Arabia, for example, even a woman’s voice is considered ‘awrah i.e. so that it should not be heard in public; and here was Zainab from the Imam’s family who became a public speaker to save Islamic values.

    Zainab was the eldest among the women of the Imam’s family, including Imam Zainul Abidin who was very unwell at the time.


    The leadership of the family thus fell to Zainab, and she proved to be more than what was expected of her. Today, women have to learn much from her example and leadership qualities. Her public role in the Karbala saga has much to teach us.

    It is wrong to think, as many Muslim men do, that women are weak and cannot achieve much in the public domain. Hazrat Zainab’s role is a wake-up call for those who feel that women are fit only for domestic chores and nothing beyond the confines of a house.

    that is what he writes.. clearly he is hyping out Shia Islam.

    what is interesting here is that guy Yazid
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    Yazid stood for all that was against Islamic norms. Not only was his lifestyle against that of the Prophet (PBUH) and his companions he also tried to destroy the institution of khilafat by introducing monarchy. 

     Muslim scholars write very little about Yazid guy and how did this Yazid guy destroyed  institution of khilafat is hard to understand..
     
    watch him at cultureunplugged.com

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    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Articles on Women folks by Islamic intellectuals..
     Reply #1 - December 02, 2011, 10:45 PM

    Women may well have been doing fine Pre-Islam:

    "Before the advent of Islam, the pagan Arab women generally enjoyed a respectable status in society; many of them including Khadija - the first wife of the prophet of Islam, had the right to engage in business and choose or dismiss their husbands in a matrilineal fashion; they took part in most activities of war and peace including public worship. In female oriented Arab paganism, goddesses had special status; in Mecca, the female goddess Al-Uzza, in Taif the goddess Al-Lat and in Medina the goddess Manat were the most popular deities, and their statues were most revered while the statue of the stern Allah was almost neglected."

    Source: http://www.rationalistinternational.net/article/20041120_en.html


    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
  • Re: Articles on Women folks by Islamic intellectuals..
     Reply #2 - December 02, 2011, 10:58 PM

    Women may well have been doing fine Pre-Islam:

    "Before the advent of Islam, the pagan Arab women generally enjoyed a respectable status in society; many of them including Khadija - the first wife of the prophet of Islam, had the right to engage in business and choose or dismiss their husbands in a matrilineal fashion; they took part in most activities of war and peace including public worship. In female oriented Arab paganism, goddesses had special status; in Mecca, the female goddess Al-Uzza, in Taif the goddess Al-Lat and in Medina the goddess Manat were the most popular deities, and their statues were most revered while the statue of the stern Allah was almost neglected."

    Source: http://www.rationalistinternational.net/article/20041120_en.html



    good to hear from you Homo Sapien., there is a little doubt on that women of Arabia were far more powerful in the society before Islam., The fact Khadija married before she married Muhammad and a 40 year old lady could marry a25 year old young man speaks volumes about the society that was present before Muhammad's Islam.,

    But I have a serious problem in understanding Shia/Sunni Islam ., Islamic split and the geographical places of present Mecca & Madina with reference to place like Karbala.. Kufa  in Iraq., Whole thing appear to be very fishy..

    with best regards
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Articles on Women folks by Islamic intellectuals..
     Reply #3 - December 02, 2011, 11:17 PM

    Hi Yeezevee. Nice to to touch base with you again. I tend to pop in & out of the forum whenever I can so if I seem elusive & impersonal at times then please forgive me.
    I agree with what you said about Khadija & pre islamic Arab society. I'm guessing that the doubts that you refer to are mainly from modern day scholars or islamic intellectuals who are more likely to be biased anyway. If you have anything substantial from anyone who is likely to be impartial or less biased then I would be interested to read as I've always got an open mind.

    Can you please expand on your point about the Shia/Sunni split & the reasoning behind why you think it's fishy? My knowledge of this area (i.e the split & reasons behind it) is weak & I'm always looking to learn more so any references or explanation would be most useful.

    When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood by its nature is bound to perish.
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