question to you music cats: of what use is electronic music to hip hop?

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Re: question to you music cats: of what use is electronic music to hip hop?
Reply #30 - December 21, 2011, 08:53 PM

They are definitive examples of mainstream artists.

Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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Reply #31 - December 29, 2011, 04:25 PM

Hip-hop heavy on the electronica from Brainfeeder's Flying Lotus and Samiyam:

FlyamSam - The Offbeat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SdMIa5vd4

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Reply #32 - December 29, 2011, 04:27 PM

Warp Records - hip-hop selections from this legendary electronic music label:

Hudson Mohawke - Butter Snips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfH6NwpjSGA

Prefuse 73 - Suite For The Way Things Change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYEOodcxU0

Flying Lotus - Zodiac Shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJvmmKRTqK4

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Reply #33 - December 29, 2011, 05:00 PM

Not to sound discouraging but I hate Electro Hop

none of that Black Eyed Peas, Ke$ha/3OH!3, Dev/The Cataracs, Far East Movement for me sir
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Reply #34 - December 29, 2011, 05:04 PM

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Reply #35 - December 29, 2011, 05:50 PM

Quote from: arX on December 29, 2011, 04:27 PM
Prefuse 73 - Suite For The Way Things Change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtYEOodcxU0

Flying Lotus - Zodiac Shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJvmmKRTqK4

Prefuse73 track is nice. Has glitch, acidy ska, acid jazz, acoustic lounge and trip hop. Jesus christ, so many textures and its interesting how they blend it all as the track progresses in varying combinations.

Very good experimental stuff clearly. But deviates strongly away from general hip hop- trip hop. It involves too many elements its unclassifiable.

The last one is pretty psychedelic.
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Re: question to you music cats: of what use is electronic music to hip hop?
Reply #36 - December 29, 2011, 06:26 PM

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of what use is electronic music to hip hop?

Afrika Bambaataa & SSF - Planet Rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-6YVPLtYe8

Was gonna post it in the synth thread.

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Re: question to you music cats: of what use is electronic music to hip hop?
Reply #37 - December 29, 2011, 08:05 PM

Now lets go back on topic and have some serious discussion.

Quote from: arX on December 18, 2011, 02:40 PM
What kind of "electronic music" are you thinking of? With its heavy use of samplers, hip hop music was one of the first popular electronic genres, so it already falls under this umbrella and forms the foundation for DJ'ing those other (sub)genres.

Hip Hop is genre on its own right. Hip Hop has diversified, evolved and developed into such a way that it has its own distinctive sound and is quite distinct from other "electronic" subgenres of music.

To call Hip Hop electronic is akin to calling Blues or Country, classical Western music.

Furthermore Hip Hop is a culture/lifestyle. Just like Rock. The music/DJ-ing is only one element and it goes along with visual art(graffiti), break dancing and rapping. Personally I would add fashion and posturing as well. It has an aesthetic attitude of its own; guerilla/urban street.

No electronic subgenre has this much of power behind it, in different aspects of human life and art. At most some relation to narcotic useage to intesify the raving experience and some gay philosophy and message.

Hip Hop is about competition (beat battling, rap battling, graffiti territorial marking), self expression, self assertion, challenging status quo, informing the dark elements of urban life, social consciousness, hypermasculinity and creativity (sampling is taking something old and giving it a new and interesting twist and in rap using the same old lines is considered "recycling" but a rapper who takes lines from the lyrics of others to form his own lyrics by changing it up and adding his own is considered to be skilled)

Hip Hop started out with a turntable and microphone. And it has affected human history worldwide. So is any other subgenre of electronic music comparable?
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Reply #38 - December 29, 2011, 08:26 PM

Quote from: passingaround on December 29, 2011, 08:05 PM
Hip Hop started out with a turntable and microphone. And it has affected human history worldwide. So is any other subgenre of electronic music comparable?

*smirk*

and rockers have infinite possibilities with their guitar(acoustic/eletric and they can have as many as they want as well) chords, bass, drums(an entire set complete with cymbals), vocalist(with varying notes, keys, techniques) and even keyboard
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Re: question to you music cats: of what use is electronic music to hip hop?
Reply #39 - January 02, 2012, 04:59 AM

^ arx ignore my above annoying hiphophead rambling which I made when I was half-drunk and sleepy trying to school you like as if you already didnt know.

this is electronic trip hop, what are your thoughts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUqSUiSolvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC3IStIl7-Q
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Reply #40 - January 02, 2012, 05:42 AM

Quote from: passingaround on December 18, 2011, 12:16 PM
Question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw3SOvXgAgY

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Re: question to you music cats: of what use is electronic music to hip hop?
Reply #41 - January 02, 2012, 07:08 AM

Quote from: Ishina on December 29, 2011, 06:26 PM
Afrika Bambaataa & SSF - Planet Rock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-6YVPLtYe8

Was gonna post it in the synth thread.

Which reminds me of this
Panic Zone - NWA
http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDhnLpA-pszo&v=DhnLpA-pszo&gl=GB

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Re: question to you music cats: of what use is electronic music to hip hop?
Reply #42 - January 02, 2012, 07:24 PM

Talib Kweli and Syl Johnson join French synth jazz duo Union:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaI0mcuIDHk

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