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Reply #30 - January 12, 2012, 05:07 PM

Btw I hope you dont take that personally and that you dont feel that my lack of appreciation of Jay Z crosses to everything else you like as being how I feel about them. Jay Z is a great rapper, he can freestyle, he can display technical proficiency no doubt. He has got skill. I never denied that. He makes OK music. Infact even since the days before being picky about music and being completely ignorant of hip hop I still was never into his stuff. He simply is not my taste. Those tracks that I think are OK, I can tell you why they are OK, even though I actually dont like them.

Taking things into consideration, I just dont like him as a rapper.
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Reply #31 - January 12, 2012, 05:14 PM

Quote from: Naija Infidel on January 12, 2012, 04:59 PM
Or more like arguing which you have seem to gain a reputation for it(after arguing about female rappers)

They were bleeding. And I had to deal with that. It wasnt my fault they had to be emos about it.

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i saw you spending a long time viewing this thread thinking of ways to come up with reasons why you think he is wack.

I have tonnes of tabs open up all the time. I dont sit on one page.

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You wanted an explanation i gave you one without any intention to argue.

If you are referring to your earlier post, they pretty much feed proof of why I dont like him. They werent favourable towards him. I don't feel you... Never mind whatever anyways.
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Reply #32 - January 12, 2012, 05:29 PM

No, i never took it personally,you dont like him,i like him, simple as that. Here is the thing Jay- Z was one of the few rappers i got exposed to along with Ice Cube,Eazy E,2pac,Wu Tang,and Biggie before i became aware of others when i start listening to hip-hop. May be if i had become exposed to Underground hip-hop earlier before those guys,it would have been different.so i have had my own moments with most of Jay Z's track if you get what i mean.

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Reply #33 - January 13, 2012, 11:07 AM

Hip hop - Dead prez
http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DlAD4FKNpvsk&v=lAD4FKNpvsk&gl=GB

Mind Sex - Dead Prez
http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google&v=IzYqo2hz7-Y

Game Of Life - Dead Prez
http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google&v=xHjwyuvgBKQ

Let's see if Passingaround will come up with his reasons why they are crap or not.

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Reply #34 - January 13, 2012, 11:44 AM

Dont get it twisted, I love those guys
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Reply #35 - January 13, 2012, 11:49 AM

Good to know that we still have something in common

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Reply #36 - January 13, 2012, 09:03 PM

Quote from: passingaround on January 12, 2012, 04:48 PM
Opinions arent all the same. My opinions arent empty opinions. Im giving you evidence from his own lyrics about what hes about(which you seem to accept as you yourself had quoted some other lyrics in congruence with what I state) and breaking down his "talent". Im not stopping you from listening to his shitty music. Whatever you like is your own fancy. Im just telling why, with reasons, he doesnt belong as "rap's finest".

Jesus dude, chill out. Enjoy the music.

I think it's great that people feel so deeply about music, but I haven't tried to argue seriously that someone shouldn't believe that an artist is an all time great since I was a teenager. Musical taste is way too subjective...

However I think almost everyone can agree that this verse from Lil B is THE BIGGEST PILE OF FUCKING HORSESHIT they've ever heard. I've freestyled better than this shit.

(2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceoSsfF20cc

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Reply #37 - January 13, 2012, 11:36 PM

Quote from: passingaround on January 05, 2012, 11:31 PM
I wouldnt call it "finest", good but not great,

music is subjective, i thought the track u posted in reply was mundane as hell. but it's individual opinion
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Reply #38 - January 14, 2012, 01:54 AM

Quote from: serpentofeden on January 13, 2012, 11:36 PM
music is subjective, i think thet track u posted in reply was mundane as hell. but it's individual opinion

Well how do you want me to break it down, then?

Music can be both subjective and objective imo. The objective part mostly being analytical. The subjective part being "soul", "nostalgia" etc
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Reply #39 - January 14, 2012, 03:34 AM

Quote from: strangestdude on January 13, 2012, 09:03 PM

However I think almost everyone can agree that this verse from Lil B is THE BIGGEST PILE OF FUCKING HORSESHIT they've ever heard. I've freestyled better than this shit.

(2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceoSsfF20cc

This may come as a suprise but there are actually good things about Lil Wayne and Lil B.

Lil Wayne actually stylistically/technically pulls from Jay Z. You dont see the similarity because Wayne has got a voice and method very different from Jay Z. And Lil Wayne is sometimes clever at

- masking his lack of skill
- metaphors
- wordplay

And as for Lil B, a rapper who drops an album entitled "I'm Gay" should never be judged on the same standards of other rappers imo. Reality is; Lil B satires wack rap. BaseGod is a parody of mainstream rap on purpose. Some wierd intention of him, to do "sounding terrible" in a skilled way.

He's got

- a hypnotic style
- a highly dumbed down, boring, lazy flow but with highly exaggerated, ridiculous bars which is in fact ridiculling popstar rappers

For all you know he could be working his ass off in the lab, spitting ether at the booth but not revealing it.

My guess, and I'm putting this down, is that his intention is to come out sounding wack initially and keep dropping better stuff gradually or he might suddenly drop a solid album within a few years time from now. Alot of good rappers of the past, have slipped down from their peak overtime, getting lower and lower till they completely fade out. He's doing the reverse I think, starting out shitty instead.

He murders Joe Budden here, showing partially his true side perhaps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrhxmgyjAqc
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Reply #40 - January 15, 2012, 06:40 PM

Pete Rock - Hop, Skip and Jump
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_R-D3Tf2JU

Cyne - Moonlight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU7h9QAOya8
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Reply #41 - January 16, 2012, 09:48 PM

Biggie had the most interesting style. He effortlessly swung over the beats.

I'm sitting on my bed, with a cigarette lit up, listening to Biggie's immortal flow. Wishing he was still alive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eC5_yIhtHM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6XhzXB3oY8

R.I.P Biggie, you are missed. :(
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Reply #42 - January 17, 2012, 04:06 PM

Fuck that Jay-z shit, listen to some real shit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z3APzl10Tg

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Reply #43 - January 21, 2012, 07:10 PM

^ nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsT8Xya0dyU

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Reply #44 - January 22, 2012, 01:58 PM

k-rino grand deception.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oGV1XWh3k4

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Reply #45 - January 22, 2012, 02:05 PM

Two of my fav songs, I can relate to them totally define me.

Tech N9ne trapped in a psycos body:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGrYQRiJ82o

Tech N9ne Demons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmf9VxbY18

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Reply #46 - January 24, 2012, 09:37 AM

This is the song you murtadeen will be listening to as youre brought down to the depths of Hell by the Angel of Death after Allah says "dispose these sinful, disobedient disbelievers down to the underworld" on Al-Qiyudgement.
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Reply #47 - January 24, 2012, 09:38 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vN-4Xwy-Cw
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Reply #48 - January 24, 2012, 11:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwoM5fLITfk

I am not a fan of Jay-Z... but this is one of his more solid ones.

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Reply #49 - January 24, 2012, 01:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQyIqTYG72c

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Reply #50 - January 24, 2012, 03:53 PM

Marked difference between Eminem's earlier underground work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGA-5i2yv9U

and later, sounding comic, mentally unstable, and using his signature heavy emphasis on phonetics, that is to say, stringing words to rhyme internally and also connecting bars based upon the enunciation of the rhyming word and, far more word bending in order to make the words. On one hand the former can be creative, on the other hand it can be seen as lazy and limits your rhyming possibilities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Lg0EDz8QE

Emphasis being more on emotion/state of mind, subject matter, vocal effects and rhyming from Slim Shady LP, Marshall Mathers LP to the Eminem Show. Albums which owe heavily to the production.
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Reply #51 - January 25, 2012, 05:52 PM

Some of british hip hop's finest tracks;

Wildflower (One of the best flows you'll hear IMO), Tempa, and Estelle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPEPhhAo1A

Sway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uf95c1Lmew

Roots Manuva
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zg3xN4J8Mo&ob=av2n

Rodney P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghk7IR2ewAA

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Reply #52 - January 25, 2012, 06:15 PM

Finest unconventional flows...

Nature and Noreaga (first and last dudes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfVdxaTUk8A

Kool Keith - the girls don't like the job (one of the most creative tracks you'll hear)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTaIctiEhIQ

EL-P - Stepfather factory (probably the most creative hip hop track I've heard, sad too based on his childhood)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCSXMMF430w&ob=av2e

An alternative to religion;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2nfXfTg92E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNW-NXEudk
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Reply #53 - January 29, 2012, 08:29 PM

Po Nigga Blues - 2pac
http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&client=mv-google&v=lnAe8Tfde0A&fulldescription=1

This legend is sorely missed.

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Reply #54 - February 14, 2012, 11:02 AM

Quote from: King Tut on January 22, 2012, 02:05 PM
Two of my fav songs, I can relate to them totally define me.

Tech N9ne trapped in a psycos body:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGrYQRiJ82o

Tech N9ne Demons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHmf9VxbY18

Techn9ne is a F***** beast
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Reply #55 - February 14, 2012, 11:02 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo

Classic song!!
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Reply #56 - February 14, 2012, 11:12 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iviaSSEdHtE

Another great song
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Reply #57 - February 16, 2012, 01:33 PM

Yo, Strangestdude, i dont if you had heard this but Jay-Z removed his glove and went brutal on Nas after "Ether" was released.

Supa Ugly - Jay Z
http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjKnYj_Nzzlc&v=jKnYj_Nzzlc&gl=GB

You be the judge.

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Reply #58 - February 16, 2012, 04:02 PM

Yeah I've heard that.

IMO that was weak compared to ether. I think Nas destroyed Jay-Z, and he know it - all he could come back with was a dis about having sex with his former partner.

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Reply #59 - February 16, 2012, 05:43 PM

Yeah, but that was because Nas brought out an embarrasing facts about him, he left Jay Z with no choice but to bring out his dirt,hence Jay Z's mum made him apologise to Nas for doing that because she thinks it was too harsh.

And this line:
Niggas with pink suits tryna get cute"

Anyway i <3 them both.

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