My murtadisation - the highlights

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My murtadisation - the highlights
OP - December 21, 2011, 01:06 PM

I became muslim about 12 (1999) years ago when i was about 17 after years old, I had no real religious conviction before then. Over the next few years I became very religious and grew a nice big beard (mashallah!), was the president of the university mosque, introduced roving islamic speakers etc. Islam made perfect sense to me for a very long time, its only until I dug deeper and gained more open minded knowledge that I started to ask questions. The answers that I found served to break the logical standpoints on which islam stood for me, Islam became more illogical and irrational thus imperfect and therefore not from god. It pains me to think that even though I wasn't an extremist of any sort, I took my relglion from a salafi standpoint which meant I logically had to condon stoning, marrying 6 year olds, all the other things that in my heart I found so distasteful and disgusting.

The simple fact is, that according to islam the prophet is held up as a perfect example for mankind, marrying a 6 year old is perfectly fine, owning slaves is a absolutly fine, stoning, slitting peoples throats with your own hands is all acceptable. What kind of a got can allow such things? Can it be that a mere human can show more mercy than the 'most merciful'. I was suspicious of the term 'religion of peace' and the liberal muslims who stated it, whilist some aspects of islam are moral, and maybe helpful to people, the other side is cruel and frankly out of this world. I found eventually my logical and thoughtful mind could no longer shoulder the burden of these so called perfect characteristics and nor could I in good faith become a liberal muslim, the only remaining course of action was to leave islam.

And now... I feel more at peace than i ever did as a muslim!
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Reply #1 - December 21, 2011, 01:16 PM

Quote from: undercoverbrother on December 21, 2011, 01:06 PM
I became muslim about 12 (1999) years ago when i was about 17 after years old, I had no real religious conviction before then. Over the next few years I became very religious and grew a nice big beard (mashallah!), was the president of the university mosque, introduced roving islamic speakers etc. Islam made perfect sense to me for a very long time, its only until I dug deeper and gained more open minded knowledge that I started to ask questions. The answers that I found served to break the logical standpoints on which islam stood for me, Islam became more illogical and irrational thus imperfect and therefore not from god. It pains me to think that even though I wasn't an extremist of any sort, I took my relglion from a salafi standpoint which meant I logically had to condon stoning, marrying 6 year olds, all the other things that in my heart I found so distasteful and disgusting.

The simple fact is, that according to islam the prophet is held up as a perfect example for mankind, marrying a 6 year old is perfectly fine, owning slaves is a absolutly fine, stoning, slitting peoples throats with your own hands is all acceptable. What kind of a got can allow such things? Can it be that a mere human can show more mercy than the 'most merciful'. I was suspicious of the term 'religion of peace' and the liberal muslims who stated it, whilist some aspects of islam are moral, and maybe helpful to people, the other side is cruel and frankly out of this world. I found eventually my logical and thoughtful mind could no longer shoulder the burden of these so called perfect characteristics and nor could I in good faith become a liberal muslim, the only remaining course of action was to leave islam.

And now... I feel more at peace than i ever did as a muslim!

welcome to CEMB undercoverbrother,,,

So you started New religion murtadism.. Ha ..Murtadism

That sounds really good Brother.. I join your religion..

So I hope you are NOT in undercover in CEMB .. like Those London Police in Mosques.. lol..

with best wishes
yeezevee

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Reply #2 - December 21, 2011, 01:17 PM

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And now... I feel more at peace than i ever did as a muslim!

Exactly how I feel having recently left Islam.

Good post.
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Reply #3 - December 21, 2011, 02:47 PM

I am undercover in the sense that I do want to keep a low profile, too many bone heads out there that could cause me trouble.
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Reply #4 - December 21, 2011, 08:34 PM

Welcome! Now I'm curious how you would get into trouble. You became a Muslim out of (nothing?) at 17, and now you apostated. I assume that you have little or nothing to fear from your family. So what is your problem?

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Reply #5 - December 21, 2011, 08:38 PM

Well you have made quite a few assumptions, I am mixed race, allowed to choose my own path etc. So I grew up without much religious guidance, probably more christian than anything. However my fathers family are all Muslim. It is not them I am worried about it, its the tossers who like to shout a lot and cause trouble, if i am honest I am not that worried about that either!
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Reply #6 - December 21, 2011, 08:39 PM

OK, now, who are the bone-heads you mentioned?

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Reply #7 - December 21, 2011, 09:11 PM

welcome dude!!!

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Reply #8 - December 21, 2011, 09:40 PM

Welcome to the forum kafiroon
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Reply #9 - December 22, 2011, 03:55 AM

hello undercoverbrother...

so where does your dad hail from? country of origin?
And your mom? where is she from?
And you. What country are you in?

Welcome from the mother of the Murtadeen lol.

Another convert unveiled, a double welcome lol.
(i was a convert too )

When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
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Reply #10 - December 22, 2011, 03:57 AM

oh p.s. "Coolie" is a racial slur, fyi. Can you
edit that please?

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Reply #11 - December 22, 2011, 04:11 AM

Hi Jinn,

Being a descendant of a coolie's, I feel justified in my usage of it, it is an integral part of who I am. So I would rather not remove it if that is OK with you I have actually changed it however. And if you are offended by it rest assured that no offence is meant

My father is from Mauritius, hence the coolie reference my mother is English and I live in the UK.

Hmm it seems the the brightest flame burns quickest, I was quite the fundamentalist back in the day, missed out on so much.
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Reply #12 - December 22, 2011, 04:13 AM

How can I change from a 'member' to an 'ex-muslim'?
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Reply #13 - December 22, 2011, 04:14 AM

Quote from: Jinn and Tonic on December 22, 2011, 03:55 AM
Another convert unveiled, a double welcome lol.
(i was a convert too )

It seemed like such a good idea at the time !
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Reply #14 - December 22, 2011, 05:36 PM

Quote from: undercoverbrother on December 22, 2011, 04:14 AM
It seemed like such a good idea at the time !

I know, huh! LOL I was pretty zealous about my iman too!
(re: the brightest flame burns out the quickest--great analogy!)

Yeah the "C" word has some pretty horrible connotations here in
the states, too. And I respect you and your heritage, just that
this word (as well as many others) do make me cringe alot.

again, a warm welcome from the Mother of the Murtadeen

When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
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Reply #15 - December 23, 2011, 10:27 AM

"the brightest flame burns first" damn I like you
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