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  • I just can't fap, when I hear females rap
     OP - December 30, 2011, 08:36 PM
    Rihanna stealing from MIA

    As Ive already mentioned I absolutely fucking hate female rappers. But I decided to give MIA some listen. Then my perception of her changed when I watched this song. I think the song she re-made is one that originally is a tamil folk(gaana) classic. Its like the tune that every rowdy girl dances/sings to. Cant really remember or tell, but it sounds like Ive heard it before. Especially the "boys there" part. I always hated gaana and urumee. I give props to MIA for staying true to her roots, revitalizing an old traditional tune and her original style.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcN1i6Qcjxg

    The chorus, the animation and the song title all seem copied. Without a doubt.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e82VE8UtW8A
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #1 - December 30, 2011, 08:38 PM
    MIA's fashion style is interesting and so original too.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #2 - December 30, 2011, 08:48 PM
    Interesting topic, and I've never come across this particular example before.   I see what you mean.

    The first example that came to mind is Craig David ripping off one of my favourite artists, Jon B.

    Jon B. - Don't Talk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAvBNMEj5kM

    Craig David - Hidden Agenda
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reKNc-ebqMc&ob=av2e

    Bitterly disappointing given that David's producer is Artful Dodger's Mark Hill who I have massive respect for.
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #3 - December 30, 2011, 11:16 PM
    @Passingaround: you do realize there are dope female rappers that are as good as the male ones such as : Queen Latifah,Lauren Hill,Da Brat,Lil Kim and Even Missy Elliot. Right?
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #4 - December 30, 2011, 11:19 PM
    neither MIA nor Rihanna is a rapper. fail.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #5 - December 30, 2011, 11:36 PM
    Quote from: Naija Infidel on December 30, 2011, 11:16 PM
    Lauren Hill

    Speaking of thievery, Lauryn took full credit for her seminal album when it was in fact shaped by numerous musicians, writers and producers.

    Great article on the masterpiece:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/inside-the-miseducation-of-lauryn-hill-20080826
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #6 - December 30, 2011, 11:40 PM
    MIA is a rapper, and she does seemingly "rap" in even the posted song. She rhymes in time to the beat and the beat is typical for rap. And talk about missing the point.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #7 - December 30, 2011, 11:43 PM
    Thank you arx. Now even the one I might have a different opinion of no longer impresses me.

    Quote from: arX on December 30, 2011, 11:36 PM
    Speaking of thievery, Lauryn took full credit for her seminal album when it was in fact shaped by numerous musicians, writers and producers.

    Great article on the masterpiece:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/inside-the-miseducation-of-lauryn-hill-20080826


    That is why sir no female rappers are good.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #8 - December 30, 2011, 11:47 PM
    Also did I say Rihanna was a rapper? lol... even a 3 yo kid can tell... check out the part where I specified the chorus, animation and song title as being similar
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #9 - December 30, 2011, 11:53 PM
    Quote from: arX on December 30, 2011, 11:36 PM
    Speaking of thievery, Lauryn took full credit for her seminal album when it was in fact shaped by numerous musicians, writers and producers.

    Great article on the masterpiece:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/inside-the-miseducation-of-lauryn-hill-20080826


    Interesting including John Legend(wow,look likes he has been around for a long time), but still she is one of the best female rappers we have seen in Hip-hop, i mean you cant compare any recent mainstream female rapper to her, at least you gotta give her a due even for Fugee-la album.
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #10 - December 30, 2011, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: Naija Infidel on December 30, 2011, 11:53 PM
    Interesting including John Legend(wow,look likes he has been around for a long time), but still she is one of the best female rappers we have seen in Hip-hop, i mean you cant compare any recent mainstream female rapper to her, at least you gotta give her a due even for Fugee-la album.

    Absolutely.  She's brilliant.  Batshit insane but brilliant.
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #11 - December 30, 2011, 11:58 PM
    Quote from: passingaround on December 30, 2011, 11:43 PM
    Thank you arx. Now even the one I might have a different opinion of no longer impresses me.

    That is why sir no female rappers are good.


    Taking other people's credit for her album doesnt make her a wacky rapper Tongue
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #12 - December 31, 2011, 12:02 AM
    Lil' Kim bitches about Nicki Minaj imitating her style.  I don't give a shit, I'm just glad that this happened:



    You know you want a bite of them crotches.
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #13 - December 31, 2011, 12:07 AM
     Cheesy

    Nicki Minaj is hotter than Lil Kim, i cant argue on that, though i wish Lil Kim never bitch about her copying her style, she should have gone to Hollywood and start acting.
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #14 - December 31, 2011, 12:12 AM
    This is already mentioned in the Nostalgia thread but another major disappointment for me is Jam & Lewis stealing J Dilla's beat for Janet's Got 'til It's Gone.

    Dilla speaks about it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgjvox6_fVw

    @3:43
    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #15 - December 31, 2011, 12:16 AM
    Gentlemen, I feel your sentiments and do not wish to persuade you otherwise. But it must be said in all honesty that God may have created both men and women equally for the most part but with two exceptions however. Namely not being holy prophets and A-list rappers.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #16 - December 31, 2011, 12:21 AM
    Ha! passingaround, meet Sean Price:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWR5kfAS6so

    A sister MC musta kicked his puppy.

    Against the ruin of the world, there
    is only one defense: the creative act.

    -- Kenneth Rexroth
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #17 - December 31, 2011, 12:25 AM
    Quote from: Naija Infidel on December 31, 2011, 12:07 AM
    Cheesy

    Nicki Minaj is hotter than Lil Kim, i cant argue on that, though i wish Lil Kim never bitch about her copying her style, she should have gone to Hollywood and start acting.


    Bullshit, Lil Kim is hotter.

    Quote from: arX on December 31, 2011, 12:21 AM
    Ha! passingaround, meet Sean Price:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWR5kfAS6so

    A sister MC musta kicked his puppy.




    Ha, MC Lyte is one of my favorite female rappers too.
    fuck you
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #18 - December 31, 2011, 12:26 AM
    Quote from: arX on December 30, 2011, 11:36 PM
    Speaking of thievery, Lauryn took full credit for her seminal album when it was in fact shaped by numerous musicians, writers and producers.

    Great article on the masterpiece:

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/inside-the-miseducation-of-lauryn-hill-20080826

    Miseducation is still her baby. It's her testimony, and one of the finest and most genuine life testimonies ever expressed though music in my opinion.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #19 - December 31, 2011, 12:27 AM
    Quote from: passingaround on December 31, 2011, 12:16 AM
    Gentlemen, I feel your sentiments and do not wish to persuade you otherwise. But it must be said in all honesty that God may have created both men and women equally for the most part but with two exceptions however. Namely not being holy prophets and A-list rappers.

    Sure, if you're willing to throw out one of the undisputable best lyricists and vocalists because of bickering over production credits on a few of her tracks.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #20 - December 31, 2011, 12:29 AM
    I always thought of Lauryn Hill more as a singer than rapper.
    fuck you
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #21 - December 31, 2011, 12:31 AM
    Like most genuine breakthrough talents, she defies convention and is different things to different people.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #22 - December 31, 2011, 12:35 AM
    Quote from: Colonel Q-Daffi on December 31, 2011, 12:25 AM
    Bullshit, Lil Kim is hotter.


    She is more dirtier than her in persona but not hotter
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #23 - December 31, 2011, 12:52 AM
    Quote from: Naija Infidel on December 30, 2011, 11:16 PM
    @Passingaround: you do realize there are dope female rappers that are as good as the male ones such as : Queen Latifah,Lauren Hill,Da Brat,Lil Kim and Even Missy Elliot. Right?


    Queen Latifa seems to be homosexual. Missy Elliot seems to have stripped herself of all her feminity to be good.

    Female rappers can never put out Liquid Swords or 36 Chambers or Illmatic.

    Rap is on all time low. The standards have dropped dramatically. Its fucking depressing. Music should be enjoyable. I shouldnt have to get upset more often than feeling positively entertained.

    Female rappers are there to show the weak male rappers. When I try to judge how wack a hyped rapper is, I just got to set them side by side with white female rappers. They are the bottom of the barrel.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #24 - December 31, 2011, 12:58 AM
    One thing about Lauren Hill tho, she fought against the industry trying to compromise her music till the end.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #25 - December 31, 2011, 12:58 AM
    Quote from: Naija Infidel on December 31, 2011, 12:35 AM
    She is more dirtier than her in persona but not hotter


    No she's hotter.

    Quote from: passingaround on December 31, 2011, 12:52 AM
    Queen Latifa seems to be homosexual. Missy Elliot seems to have stripped herself of all her feminity to be good.


    So?

    Quote
    Female rappers can never put out Liquid Swords or 36 Chambers or Illmatic.


    Just because it hasn't been done yet doesn't mean it can't. And Wu-Tang is overrated. Shoulda stuck with Nas.
    fuck you
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #26 - December 31, 2011, 12:59 AM
    Quote from: passingaround on December 31, 2011, 12:16 AM
    Gentlemen, I feel your sentiments and do not wish to persuade you otherwise. But it must be said in all honesty that God may have created both men and women equally for the most part but with two exceptions however. Namely not being holy prophets and A-list rappers.


    Or maybe you just have a bias against the idea that women can rap which makes it easy for you to dismiss even those that are good?

    I wonder if this isn't that same phenomena associated with those who say women are not as funny as men, in that the woman saying the same things as a man, being blunt, rude, saying unfeminine things, is not as socially acceptable, so rather than enjoying her jokes, people are put off, whereas if a man does it, people laugh because it's ok for men to say those things.  It seems to fit when you look at it like that.

    I mean Jean Grae for instance is an awesome rapper, writes all her own stuff, would you find her 'better' if she was a guy?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCxKXbmW40&feature=related

    ^^ I love this one.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URKa62sU6N4&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK6guBksZiI


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txYEKo-Rrdk&feature=related

    ^^ I'm sorry but in this she sounds even fucking smoother than half the A list male rappers out there right now, but of course like with females in comedy, you can only have your token female rappers, and the really good ones just don't get the recognition they would.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #27 - December 31, 2011, 01:02 AM
    You don't even like rap-- your comment is dismissed. Tongue

    There are some great female rappers out there, but passingaround is correct that none of them as of yet can top the best male rappers. I mean maybe there is one out there, it's not like I've listened to all the music out there but just saying based on what I've heard.
    fuck you
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #28 - December 31, 2011, 01:07 AM
    Quote from: passingaround on December 31, 2011, 12:52 AM
    Queen Latifa seems to be homosexual. Missy Elliot seems to have stripped herself of all her feminity to be good.

    Female rappers can never put out Liquid Swords or 36 Chambers or Illmatic.

    Rap is on all time low. The standards have dropped dramatically. Its fucking depressing. Music should be enjoyable. I shouldnt have to get upset more often than feeling positively entertained.

    Female rappers are there to show the weak male rappers. When I try to judge how wack a hyped rapper is, I just got to set them side by side with white female rappers. They are the bottom of the barrel.


    You are talking about Hardcore which is a subgenre of Rap music itself and like Q said just because it hasnt been done, it means it cant be done, unless you want to twist your argument to another angle Tongue

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: egs of mainstream artists jacking someone else
     Reply #29 - December 31, 2011, 01:09 AM
    Considering music taste is totally subjective, the whole 'no woman as great as of yet' is not a fixed thing Tongue
     
    and I like some rap, just not all of it since most of it is shite. 

    AAaaaaand I still think that I am right and that thise whole women not as good yet thing has to echo the whole female comedians thing.  Just makes too much sense, and I'm such a G with this shit I just know I'm right.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
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