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 Topic: Violinists can't tell the difference between Stradivarius violins and new ones

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  • Violinists can't tell the difference between Stradivarius violins and new ones
     OP - January 07, 2012, 05:43 AM

    Teh sauce: Violinists can't tell the difference between Stradivarius violins and new ones

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    Antique Italian violins, such as those crafted by Antonio Stradivari or Giuseppe Guarneri del Gesu, can fetch millions of dollars.  Many violinists truly believe that these instruments are better than newly made violins, and several scientists have tried to work out why. Some suspected at the unusually dense wood, harvested from Alpine spruces that grew during an Ice Age. Others pointed the finger at the varnish, or the chemicals that Stradivari used to treat the wood.

    But Claudia Fritz (a scientist who studies instrument acoustics) and Joseph Curtin (a violin-maker) may have discovered the real secret to a Stradivarius's sound: nothing at all.

    The duo asked professional violinists to play new violins, and old ones by Stradivari and Guarneri. They couldn't tell the difference between the two groups. One of the new violins even emerged as the most commonly preferred instrument.

    Ever since the early 19th century,  many tests have questioned the alleged superiority of the old Italian violins. Time and again, listeners have failed to distinguish between the sound of the old and new instruments. But critics have been quick to pick holes in these studies. In most cases, the listeners weren't experts, and the players and researchers knew which violin was which, a flaw that could have biased the results.

    What's more, no one has tested whether violinists themselves can truly pick up the supposedly distinctive sound of a Strad. The common wisdom is that they can, but Fritz and Curtin showed that this isn't true. 'Many people were convinced that as soon as you play an old violin, you can feel that it's old, it's been played a lot, and it has a special sound quality,' says Fritz. 'People who took part in the experiment said it was the experience of a lifetime when we told them the results. They were fully convinced they could tell the difference, and they couldn't.'

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  • Re: Violinists can't tell the difference between Stradivarius violins and new ones
     Reply #1 - January 07, 2012, 05:52 AM

    NO!

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    حتى خـطرت له بباب المسجد

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  • Re: Violinists can't tell the difference between Stradivarius violins and new ones
     Reply #2 - January 07, 2012, 05:53 AM

    Shocking, innit? Wink

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  • Re: Violinists can't tell the difference between Stradivarius violins and new ones
     Reply #3 - January 07, 2012, 06:35 AM

    Not surprising. Placebo effect is a powerful thing.

    This reminded me of a great talk I've watched recently by a Yale psychology professor Paul Bloom; he talks about the role of price and status of the item in it's appeal to the person. For example, believing that the cheap wine you're drinking is really expensive actually makes it taste better, and it shows in the brain.

    ALSO,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9J1b3MqiX8

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