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 Topic: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #60 - February 14, 2012, 08:53 PM

    Well, to be fair, it could have been started by gay fashion designers, but all I'm seeing on that here is idle speculation, no real evidence.

    Oh sure. I have sometimes wondered if an influence is that gay fashion designers understand elegance but don't understand scrumptious. Then again, I'm not a gay man so I don't know.

    I think the root cause of the problem is more likely to be that the models are seen merely as vehicles for the designer's fantasies rather than as women in their own right. A lot of what goes on the catwalk is not really intended to be women in the streets. Hardly any woman who could afford haute couture would be interested in the idiotic and disgusting "junkie chic" make-up that infests the catwalks at times.

    There really does seem to be an element of hatred in what is done to models by some fashion houses. It's as if they are deliberately being made to look weak and ruined.


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    Causes in this case don't matter much. It just needs to be changed is all. The fashion industry should be collectivized and responsible people given oversight. Most of it's wasteful bullshit anyways.

    Agreed. Collectivised isn't going to work, but certainly I think it should be more strongly regulated. These buggers make squillions. They can certainly afford to pay for responsible physicians and counsellors.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #61 - February 14, 2012, 09:01 PM

    Fuck physicians and counselors. It's a workplace health and safety issue. The law should simply state that people under certain BMIs aren't allowed to be in photo shoots or on runways as models for the fashion industry. Simple as. If fashion designers and photographers want underweight models for artistic reasons, fine, but not if those models are gainfully employed by said designers, photographers or contractors/vendors thereof.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #62 - February 14, 2012, 09:05 PM

    Fuck physicians and counselors. It's a workplace health and safety issue. The law should simply state that people under certain BMIs aren't allowed to be in photo shoots or on runways as models for the fashion industry. Simple as.

    Yesssssssss.............................and...............if you want to determine the BMI of a candidate then presumably you would be requiring the services of a qualified and responsible physician. Why do you think I suggested physicians?

    Also, if a model does develop an eating disorder she should be given counselling.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #63 - February 14, 2012, 09:07 PM

    You do realise that some girls are naturally skinny and what you would be doing would be making them feel like shit about themselves too?

    I have one friend who has such a high metabolism that she will always appear anorexic to you guys, but eats like a maniac.  Making a hrd and fast rule ostracises women who are naturally skinny too.


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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #64 - February 14, 2012, 09:14 PM

    Yesssssssss.............................and...............if you want to determine the BMI of a candidate then presumably you would be requiring the services of a qualified and responsible physician. Why do you think I suggested physicians?

    Also, if a model does develop an eating disorder she should be given counselling.


    True, but I'm just saying physicians and counselors aren't enough-- as long as underweight women continue to be featured in photo ads and on fashion runways the problem goes on no matter how much counseling you provide-- strict employment laws that make certain employers aren't using models who are starving themselves is what is required. Also, in general, I think we need to start treating workplace deaths due to employer negligence as homicide and start criminally prosecuting negligent managers and owners. I'm about sick of people dying or being seriously injured/maimed from avoidable shit just so some rich asshole can buy a second summer home.

    You do realise that some girls are naturally skinny and what you would be doing would be making them feel like shit about themselves too?

    I have one friend who has such a high metabolism that she will always appear anorexic to you guys, but eats like a maniac.  Making a hrd and fast rule ostracises women who are naturally skinny too.


    Perhaps BUT

    1. Your skinny friend doesn't have to get a job as a model in the fashion industry.

    2. Running the risk of ostracizing some skinny people is probably worth fewer people starving themselves to death. Better feelings hurt than dead in my book.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #65 - February 14, 2012, 09:18 PM

    You do realise that some girls are naturally skinny and what you would be doing would be making them feel like shit about themselves too?

    I have one friend who has such a high metabolism that she will always appear anorexic to you guys, but eats like a maniac.  Making a hard and fast rule ostracises women who are naturally skinny too.

    Nope. You're assuming that there will be an epidemic of magazine articles extolling the virtues of 300 pounders and and denigrating other women. Aint gonna happen.

    Sure, there is a lot of natural variation in build among women and sure, some rather skinny women can still be perfectly healthy. I've known several women like that. However, women like that are far less common than women with more normal builds.

    Given their obvious predilections, the fashion houses will always push for the skinniest models they can get. If there is a minimum BMI, that's what all models will have. So, in reality, if a standard is set to assess the health of model it will still be a standard that encourages most women to be unhealthily underweight, even if it does end up encouraging a few women to put on a bit more than their natural weight.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #66 - February 14, 2012, 09:20 PM

    True, but I'm just saying physicians and counselors aren't enough-- as long as underweight women continue to be featured in photo ads and on fashion runways the problem goes on no matter how much counseling you provide-- strict employment laws that make certain employers aren't using models who are starving themselves is what is required. Also, in general, I think we need to start treating workplace deaths due to employer negligence as homicide and start criminally prosecuting negligent managers and owners. I'm about sick of people dying or being seriously injured/maimed from avoidable shit just so some rich asshole can buy a second summer home.

    Oh sure, I agree more regulation is needed. The fashion industry has obviously and dismally failed to deal with the issue.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #67 - February 14, 2012, 09:35 PM

    Well these models start like this by starving and controlling  their food intake

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RGrrQsY3ZCk

    be a  super model for couple of years and then   they end up like this



    that is same  super model  you see in that tube..

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #68 - February 14, 2012, 09:43 PM

    Another solution:

    Nationalize the fashion industry and appoint Vida Guerra to be the Commissar of Fashion Modeling


    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #69 - February 14, 2012, 09:54 PM

    And watch butt implant sales rise higher than they are at now.

    As long as any 'ideal' is paraded infront of women, as what the perfect woman is, is as long as extreme self esteem issues will arise.

    Most women don't have asses like that.

    Starving yourself to achieve an ideal is one way when skinny women rule as that ideal.

    Carving yourself is another way because it's usually big booby women, and now big asses (something I might add was NOT considered attractive in the 80s) that the perfect women needs to have.

    I mean seriously, will this ideal never end?

    maybe instead of trying to set some standard, the standard can become NORMAL, varied.  Flat booty, big booty, larger, smaller, big breast, small breast, black, white, fucking the reality of what women are.

    I'm getting a bit sick of never measuring up to each new ideal.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #70 - February 14, 2012, 09:57 PM

    I'm getting a bit sick of never measuring up to each new ideal.

    Then stop trying and just be yourself. Best option.

    No matter what is currently fashionable there will always be some people who are different. That's just how it goes.

    And yes, I did like booty back in the 80's. Grin

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #71 - February 14, 2012, 10:01 PM

    And watch butt implant sales rise higher than they are at now.

    As long as any 'ideal' is paraded infront of women, as what the perfect woman is, is as long as extreme self esteem issues will arise.

    Most women don't have asses like that.

    Starving yourself to achieve an ideal is one way when skinny women rule as that ideal.

    Carving yourself is another way because it's usually big booby women, and now big asses (something I might add was NOT considered attractive in the 80s) that the perfect women needs to have.

    I mean seriously, will this ideal never end?

    maybe instead of trying to set some standard, the standard can become NORMAL, varied.  Flat booty, big booty, larger, smaller, big breast, small breast, black, white, fucking the reality of what women are.

    I'm getting a bit sick of never measuring up to each new ideal.


    Yeah well while we wait for that, global communist revolution, and world peace, I'm still goin for tight workplace standards on fashion model BMI because the fashion industry obviously doesn't give two fucks about the health and safety of its employees, nor that of those girls trying to emulate them-- stiff penalties for hiring underweight models is the only way to stop them from encouraging people to fucking starve themselves to death.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #72 - February 14, 2012, 10:03 PM

    I keep feeling weird reading Os's posts and then remembering he's 50. And not just here, all over the forum.  wacko

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #73 - February 14, 2012, 10:06 PM

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Why is that?

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #74 - February 14, 2012, 10:06 PM

    Then stop trying and just be yourself. Best option.

    No matter what is currently fashionable there will always be some people who are different. That's just how it goes.


    I'm a sick sick woman man.  I am drawn into this stupid self esteem game, I try not to be, but you know I am lol.  It's easy enough to say just be yourself.  You have to like yourself.  That's not so easy.  Grin

    Truth is I am surrounded by images of what I should be.  I dream about what I should be.  What time has there really been to see me, like me?  I'm not even me anymore when you think about it.

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    And yes, I did like booty back in the 80's. Grin


    the media didn't.

    Seriously, that was the time of sharp hips and electric blue leggings.  Tongue

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #75 - February 14, 2012, 10:07 PM

    I keep feeling weird reading Os's posts and then remembering he's 50. And not just here, all over the forum.  wacko


    That's cuz ur like 12 or something, you can't believe anyone is 50.

    And yes, he was around during dinosaur times.

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #76 - February 14, 2012, 10:08 PM

    I keep feeling weird reading Os's posts and then remembering he's 50. And not just here, all over the forum.  wacko

     

    ikr.. dem ol peeps be krazzyyyy!!
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #77 - February 14, 2012, 10:09 PM

    I keep feeling weird reading Os's posts and then remembering he's 50. And not just here, all over the forum.  wacko


    habibi balentine?   Tongue


    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #78 - February 14, 2012, 10:11 PM

    I'm a sick sick woman man.  I am drawn into this stupid self esteem game, I try not to be, but you know I am lol.  It's easy enough to say just be yourself.  You have to like yourself.  That's not so easy.  Grin

    Yeah I know, but you know that it's the only solution.

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    the media didn't.

    Fuck the media.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #79 - February 14, 2012, 10:11 PM

    No, it's just he doesn't sound 50. At all. My mom is 52.  Tongue

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #80 - February 14, 2012, 10:14 PM

    Is she hot?  grin12

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #81 - February 14, 2012, 10:16 PM

    habibi balentine?   Tongue



     yiiii habibi balentino!!..ana bedi  grin12
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #82 - February 14, 2012, 10:28 PM

    I can pm you pics if you want. But she's fucked in the head, so better just keep it to a one nighter. Oh, and you have to pretend to be muslim.  Tongue

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #83 - February 14, 2012, 11:36 PM

    What the Fashion industry looks for is not always pretty women, but women far removed from what women look like on average. They are not supposed to look like you, and you can never look like them. But they stand out, with their height and long neck and whatever.
    “The typical response to the allegation that advertising presents extreme images is that fashion and beauty images are not intended to be realistic. They need to present something out of the ordinary to fuel the desire for the products they endorse. “

    For instance look at Iman-who could possibly have a neck like that
    Or twiggy who started with the android look.



    Either way, the fashion industry represents us, in abstract terms. They change with the landscape, and even foresee changes. They capture and reflect how and where we are politically, socially, economic and environmentally. It is only when we look back that we can see that. 
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #84 - February 15, 2012, 12:01 AM

    The size zero model is favoured by non gay designers, straight designers, female designers. Its perpetuated by model agencies run by women, and fashion magazines edited by women.

    Whilst there is a debate to be had about the size zero image, isolating gay designers as the progenitors of this is an example of bigotry. To suggest that what represents an aesthetic ideal of our era is down simply to the preference of gay designers is simply ridiculous.




    I remember reading somewhere that the women who work in the model agancy does have more than it's fair share of female ephebophiles, perhaps it was in a biography of Kate Moss. The operative words being 'fair share'.

    So if we go along this fair share, I put it to you that the fashion world has more than its fair share of gay men. What is the number of gays in society, some would say 10%, i'd think it was more nearer 5%, now I would bet that the fashion world has more than 5% working in it, from top to bottom of the chain. They are over-represented. Is it not fair to apportion more blame.

    Again I reiterate that other aspects of the media do have more curvier women, women with a better hip-to-waist ratio, women who have boob jobs, women who don't look like tall boys. A lot of these fulfil the visual needs of these men, say Chuck Lorre lol.

    Dirty old rich media men are too blame, be they straight or gay. Just that the size zero on the catwalk is in contrast to the boob jobbed honies in the rest of the media. 9Yes I know some straight men prefer a bag of bones, one of my friends does but I am talking generally.

    perhaps if I am wrong and it is stick-thin women wanted in front of the camera by straight men then I would guess these type of straight men are looking for women who look like girls. The older some men get......Again it is a combination of dirty old men(staright or gay) and a combination with consumerism/feminism/free society that is to blame for my ultimate nemisis - sexualisation of children.

    Allat accused me of being insecure/confused because I come across time to time rattling the cages of the gay lobby on here, wonder what people would have accused me off if I banged on about sexualisation of the young??

    To jump the gun about who is responsible for anorexia, found this on the net >>>>>>>>>Girls get anorexia 'because their brains are wired differently'

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-502705/Girls-anorexia-brains-wired-differently.html#ixzz1mP0asVW4

    Brains wired differently ? Scientist say that about gays and peadophiles.

    I have no problem with gay people - I understand why partriarchal society would 'frown' against this practice, cause the line of heritage went through father to son ergo doesn't help society if homosexuals abound, but we don't have that problem anymore. I have friends who are gay, or did have at university - grew right friendly with a lesbian, her sister and female flatmate(both straight - visited quite a few gay asian gay clubs with said company plus their younger sister and boyfriend, admittedly at first, a bit wary but grew more comfortable. met gay asian male couples through them. Never forget the lesbain friend fretting over her dinner table setting asking 'do you think it looks right?' 'do i look alright?' lol being nervous like as if a boy was coming round.

    One thing though, as there are two men involved and in general men have higher sex drives than men, does this not mean homosexuals are generally going to be more sexed, there must be some evidence that they have more partners than heterosexuals.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #85 - February 15, 2012, 12:18 AM

    BREAKING NEWS: SCIENTISTS FIND THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE GENETICALLY PREDISPOSED TO AN ILLNESS HAVE MORE CHANCE OF CONTRACTING IT.

    In other news, rain fell after clouds formed.
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #86 - February 15, 2012, 12:23 AM

    ^^

    Applied to homosexuals does that mean they are more predisposed to it and there might be environmental factors that come into play or are they born gay.

    Tbh i have doubts about the science behind anorexia saying it is because of different-wired brains because (I maybe wrong)it seems more of a western thing than a global one.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #87 - February 15, 2012, 12:25 AM

    Is it not fair to apportion more blame.


    In your world, yes, it is fair to do that.

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  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #88 - February 15, 2012, 12:26 AM

    I think it's widely assumed now that it's a combination of genetics and environment (right from before birth, no?). I'm not sure what homosexuality has to do with illness, though.
  • Re: Isabelle Caro, the face of anorexia, dies at 28
     Reply #89 - February 15, 2012, 12:34 AM

    I'm not sure what homosexuality has to do with illness, though.


    It gives you fever.

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