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 Topic: Islam and psychotherapy

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  • Islam and psychotherapy
     OP - February 03, 2012, 01:09 PM

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    In my yearning for love, the question I ask myself is what love do I need? Indeed, without a doubt it is God's love. No other love can be defined, until His love is being properly understood. The Prophet Muhammad (upon whom be peace) said God "Loves us more than a mother loves her child" [Riyad-us-Saliheen]....


    From thread on this site.

    http://www.amazon.com/Sex-Human-Loving-Eric-Berne/dp/0671207717

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    people who make love are more likely to have breakfast together.


    Does Islam, do religios have a clue what they are talking about?

    Do they not realise we now have over a hundred years of thinking about relationships and that this god love stuff is not actually love because it is not equal, mutual, open and warm?

    Allah and Mo seriously need to sit down with skilled psychotherapists!  They have some clear issues!

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Islam and psychotherapy
     Reply #1 - February 03, 2012, 01:49 PM

    I hope that they can be reborn when some future Buddha is, so that they can learn a good religious approach to happiness.

    If god loves me, why am I in a wheelchair, ravaged by depression, needing surgeries frequently to be able to do basic things? Surely praying to him would solve my problems, yet a preacher's prayers for my ability to walk did nothing.

    Interested in Buddhism? Check out http://www.accesstoinsight.org/!
    Consider Nalanda University, and never let it happen again.
  • Re: Islam and psychotherapy
     Reply #2 - February 03, 2012, 02:04 PM

    http://WhyWontGodHealAmputees.com/god5.htm

    I know it's xian, but same principles!

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    A simple experiment

    For this experiment, we need to find a deserving person who has had both of his legs amputated. For example, find a sincere, devout veteran of the Iraqi war, or a person who was involved in a tragic automobile accident.

    Now create a prayer circle like the one created for Jeanna Giese. The job of this prayer circle is simple: pray to God to restore the amputated legs of this deserving person. I do not mean to pray for a team of renowned surgeons to somehow graft the legs of a cadaver onto the soldier, nor for a team of renowned scientists to craft mechanical legs for him. Pray that God spontaneously and miraculously restores the soldier's legs overnight, in the same way that God spontaneously and miraculously cured Jeanna Giese and Marilyn Hickey's mother.

    If possible, get millions of people all over the planet to join the prayer circle and pray their most fervent prayers. Get millions of people praying in unison for a single miracle for this one deserving amputee. Then stand back and watch.

    What is going to happen? Jesus clearly says that if you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. He does not say it once -- he says it many times in many ways in the Bible.

    And yet, even with millions of people praying, nothing will happen.

    No matter how many people pray. No matter how sincere those people are. No matter how much they believe. No matter how devout and deserving the recipient. Nothing will happen. The legs will not regenerate. Prayer does not restore the severed limbs of amputees. You can electronically search through all the medical journals ever written -- there is no documented case of an amputated leg being restored spontaneously. And we know that God ignores the prayers of amputees through our own observations of the world around us. If God were answering the prayers of amputees to regenerate their lost limbs, we would be seeing amputated legs growing back every day.

    Isn't that odd? The situation becomes even more peculiar when you look at who God is. According to the Standard Model of God:

    God is all-powerful. Therefore, God can do anything, and regenerating a leg is trivial.

    God is perfect, and he created the Bible, which is his perfect book. In the Bible, Jesus makes very specific statements about the power of prayer. Since Jesus is God, and God and the Bible are perfect, those statements should be true and accurate.

    God is all-knowing and all-loving. He certainly knows about the plight of the amputee, and he loves this amputee very much.

    God is ready and willing to answer your prayers no matter how big or small. All that you have to do is believe. He says it in multiple places in the Bible. Surely, with millions of people in the prayer circle, at least one of them will believe and the prayer will be answered.

    God has no reason to discriminate against amputees. If he is answering millions of other prayers like Jeanna's every day, God should be answering the prayers of amputees too.

    Nonetheless, the amputated legs are not going to regenerate.

    What are we seeing here? It is not that God sometimes answers the prayers of amputees, and sometimes does not. Instead, in this situation there is a very clear line. God never answers the prayers of amputees. It would appear, to an unbiased observer, that God is singling out amputees and purposefully ignoring them.


    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Islam and psychotherapy
     Reply #3 - February 03, 2012, 02:33 PM

    Gee, I am sorry to have derailed this thread; I just think, from my own experience that the assumption of a god who is all-powerful and all loving is flawed.

    Interested in Buddhism? Check out http://www.accesstoinsight.org/!
    Consider Nalanda University, and never let it happen again.
  • Re: Islam and psychotherapy
     Reply #4 - February 03, 2012, 02:56 PM

    You have not derailed it!

     parrot

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Islam and psychotherapy
     Reply #5 - February 03, 2012, 02:59 PM

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    Islam and psychotherapy

    you two guys are singing good song but you are not hitting right nodes., let me hit it., a drunk sings better and has better voice..



    There is no doubt Islam needs psychotherapy., "NOT ONLY ISLAM EVERY RELIGIONS NEEDS SOME SORT OF PSYCHOTHERAPY"., but Islam specially needs little more than that.

    Islam needs  psychotherapy, Physiotherapy using the method of spanking  asses,  Some Islam need to be sent prison and Some Islam need to be sen  to Allah and whatever little good left in it it could stay..

    Filter it with cheese cloth

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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