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  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #30 - February 29, 2012, 07:18 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on February 29, 2012, 10:43 AM
    1964: South Africa banned from Olympics

    So was Serbia - banned from summer Olympics in 1992.
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #31 - March 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
    Quote from: Ishina on February 29, 2012, 10:43 AM
    1964: South Africa banned from Olympics


    S. Africa was banned because of the apartheid regime, for some reason people seem to think sexism isn't as bad as racism. Saudi has been participating in the Olympics since 1972 (according to wiki) so why now? At least now they have allowed a woman to participate in the youth games.

    Quote from: Ishina on February 29, 2012, 10:43 AM
    I wasn't aware that the ban was part of a movement for social and political change in Saudi Arabia. Can you tell me where this aim was stated by the IOC?


    It isn't their aim. The lack of women participating in sports is a by-product of a much bigger problem. I don't care about the IOC, fact is if they apply the principles fairly (specifically No. 4) a lot of nations would be banned. Btw where was the IOC when the nazis only allowed "Aryans" only in the 1936 Olympics?  Roll Eyes Fuck the IOC.

    Quote from: Ishina on February 29, 2012, 10:43 AM
    Irrelevant straw-clutching. You're better than that.


    It is irrelevant but I'm going to continue to bring the monarchy thing up whenever I can  Smiley
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #32 - March 01, 2012, 01:17 AM
    Ban Saudi Arabia - they won't be missed, their athletes have a snowball's chance in hell in actually winning anything. 

    Also why did Qatar get the World Cup? Homosexuality is a criminal offence there. I wonder what will happen  if more International footballers came out of the closet - which at the moment is, unfortunately,  nil - by 2022 - will their HABs , husbands and boyfriends , be allowed to accompany them? 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUc_kATGgg
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #33 - March 01, 2012, 01:45 AM
    Like blatter said they should refrain from sexual activities  Cheesy FIFA are full of shit too, they banned the Iranian WOMENS team because they wore the hijab (more like a normal hat) because it violated a law about not having religious and political symbols. I guess FIFA officials have never looked at the Saudi, Israeli, Portuguese or Spanish football badges  whistling2
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #34 - March 01, 2012, 07:28 AM
    Quote from: 247read on March 01, 2012, 01:17 AM
    Ban Saudi Arabia - they won't be missed, their athletes have a snowball's chance in hell in actually winning anything.  

    Also why did Qatar get the World Cup? Homosexuality is a criminal offence there. I wonder what will happen  if more International footballers came out of the closet - which at the moment is, unfortunately,  nil - by 2022 - will their HABs , husbands and boyfriends , be allowed to accompany them?  


    I didn't hear you complain about Russia, where things are so bad for ethnic minorities that the Armenian premier once had to ask the Russian government to take the regular racist murders of people from the Caucasus as a serious matter. How are all the foreigners in Russia going to feel safe from attack when ordinary non-Rus citizens can't!


    I think that issue is more serious than Qatar.
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    What apple stores are like.....

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  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #35 - March 01, 2012, 08:11 AM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
    S. Africa was banned because of the apartheid regime, for some reason people seem to think sexism isn't as bad as racism.

    Some people think the earth is 6,000 years old. Some people think the Jews engineered 9/11. Some people enjoy the Twilight movies. Some people are idiots.

    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
    Saudi has been participating in the Olympics since 1972 (according to wiki) so why now?

    The reason Saudi Arabia is banned from the 2012 London Olympics is in the article on the first page.

    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
    It isn't their aim.

    And that's the way it should be. Ideally, the Olympic committee should stay out of politics. It should be politically impartial. However, that doesn't mean they cannot uphold their own principles within their own structural entity. They are sound principles, worth holding to and defending.

    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
    I don't care about the IOC, fact is if they apply the principles fairly (specifically No. 4) a lot of nations would be banned.

    Ok, which other nations mode of participation in the 2012 Olympics would breach the Olympic Charter?

    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
    Btw where was the IOC when the nazis only allowed "Aryans" only in the 1936 Olympics?  Roll Eyes Fuck the IOC.

    The 1936 Olympics were hosted in Berlin.

    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
    It is irrelevant but I'm going to continue to bring the monarchy thing up whenever I can  Smiley

    I'm not sure what this means. Do you have some weird little personal issue with me because of my opinion on the British monarchy?
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #36 - March 01, 2012, 06:09 PM
    Quote from: Pashtun on February 27, 2012, 09:34 AM
    They should also ban Pakistan for being a terrorist supporter


    Troll much? Try Ummah.com my little Indian friend, you'll convince them your pushtoon.
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  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #37 - March 01, 2012, 06:13 PM
    Ishina: WTF is wrong with Twilight? Why the fuck do femi-bitches hate Twilight so much? its a program about fictional characters!
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  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #38 - March 01, 2012, 06:15 PM
    Nvm
    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

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  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #39 - March 01, 2012, 06:16 PM
    Hate to say it, but I agree with Ishina, love the monarchy, and fuck Saudi Arabia! ban them motherfuckers.  
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  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #40 - March 01, 2012, 06:27 PM
    Quote from: King Tut on March 01, 2012, 06:13 PM
    Why the fuck do femi-bitches hate Twilight so much?

    Femi-bitch ? Everyone I know hates Twilight. It's quite a mystery to me why exactly they hate it so much, but that's definitely in no way something specific to “femi-bitch”.
    I, personally, think Cassidy pwns every other vampire character, the whole Twilight cast of course included Afro.
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #41 - March 01, 2012, 07:07 PM
    Twilight is the shit maan.
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  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #42 - March 01, 2012, 07:30 PM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
    Btw where was the IOC when the nazis only allowed "Aryans" only in the 1936 Olympics?  Roll Eyes Fuck the IOC.

    Olympic Charter is not a static document but rather a dynamic and frequently updated set of rules heavily influenced by contemporary ethical and moral standards.

    You are comparing the world as it was in 1936 to the world that is today? In the same thread where you call other people 'retarded' for voicing an opinion that differs from your own? Seriously?
    Every time when accusations regarding Mo's paedophilia come up you start explaining that the standards were different back then - which is actually something I quite agree on.

    But then you completely fail to acknowledge that the world we live in today is in fact very different compared to the world that was 80 years ago.

    Back then some of the prominent progressives of the time such as George Bernard Shaw promoted eugenics and 'humane killings":
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgpaKkrZex4&feature=related

    Quote from: Yi Sun-Sin on March 01, 2012, 06:27 PM
    I, personally, think Cassidy pwns every other vampire character, the whole Twilight cast of course included Afro.

    Twilight is fucking horrible, but it's aimed at teenagers so that is sort of understandable.

    Cassidy is an excellent choice btw. Are you into graphic novels?

  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #43 - March 01, 2012, 07:52 PM
    Quote from: King Tut on March 01, 2012, 07:07 PM
    Twilight is the shit maan.

    Go watch a real vampire movie like Near Dark

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RR-nVtxvlI
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #44 - March 01, 2012, 08:19 PM
    Quote from: Kenan on March 01, 2012, 07:30 PM

    Back then some of the prominent progressives of the time such as George Bernard Shaw promoted eugenics and 'humane killings"



    Ah, good old GBS. Incidentally there is an apparent quote of his used by Dawah-gandists in which he expounds on the apparent greatness etc etc of Islam and Mo. I'm not sure if its invented or not, but if so, maybe it came from a, let us say, eccentric period of his thinking as when this great advice was being expounded.

    At least he gave us what became the delightful 'My Fair Lady'

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #45 - March 01, 2012, 08:20 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on March 01, 2012, 07:52 PM
    Go watch a real vampire movie like Near Dark

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RR-nVtxvlI


    Fucking great film Afro

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #46 - March 01, 2012, 08:23 PM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 01, 2012, 12:34 AM
    S. Africa was banned because of the apartheid regime, for some reason people seem to think sexism isn't as bad as racism.



    Quote from: Ishina on March 01, 2012, 08:11 AM
    Some people think the earth is 6,000 years old. Some people think the Jews engineered 9/11. Some people enjoy the Twilight movies. Some people are idiots.


    And some people dont know when to stop arguing and concede Tongue
    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

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  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #47 - March 01, 2012, 08:29 PM
    I've long thought that sexism and racism were exactly the same in terms of fundamental motivation. Both are an attempt to make yourself feel superior by putting down a bunch of people who are different.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #48 - March 01, 2012, 08:32 PM
    Quote from: Cato on March 01, 2012, 08:23 PM

    And some people dont know when to stop arguing and concede Tongue


    When Aphrodite and Ishina collide, an irresistible force meets an immoveable one  yes

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #49 - March 01, 2012, 08:40 PM
    Quote from: Cato on March 01, 2012, 08:23 PM

    And some people dont know when to stop arguing and concede Tongue

    Some just want to watch the world burn.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #50 - March 01, 2012, 08:43 PM
    Quote from: billy on March 01, 2012, 08:32 PM
    When Aphrodite and Ishina collide, an irresistible force meets an immoveable one  yes

    You mean "immoveable object". Tongue
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #51 - March 01, 2012, 08:44 PM

    This object is a force all of its own  grin12
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #52 - March 01, 2012, 08:47 PM
    lrn2physics Tongue
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #53 - March 02, 2012, 12:54 AM
    Quote from: Ishina on March 01, 2012, 08:11 AM
    The reason Saudi Arabia is banned from the 2012 London Olympics is in the article on the first page.


    They're not banned and won't be. A human rights report called for their banning, but as usual Saudi's human rights record is overlooked.

    Quote from: Ishina on March 01, 2012, 08:11 AM
    And that's the way it should be. Ideally, the Olympic committee should stay out of politics. It should be politically impartial.


    Agreed.

    Quote from: Ishina on March 01, 2012, 08:11 AM
    Ok, which other nations mode of participation in the 2012 Olympics would breach the Olympic Charter?


    Not sure, judging from the list of participating countries, I'd say the likes of Afghanistan, Pakistan, UAE etc. assuming they don't let women participate, but then they'd yell Islamophobia or something so it'd never happen.

    Quote from: Ishina on March 01, 2012, 08:11 AM
    The 1936 Olympics were hosted in Berlin.

    And shouldn't have been.

    Quote from: Ishina on March 01, 2012, 08:11 AM
    I'm not sure what this means. Do you have some weird little personal issue with me because of my opinion on the British monarchy?


    Its not personal.
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #54 - March 02, 2012, 12:58 AM
    Quote from: Kenan on March 01, 2012, 07:30 PM
    Olympic Charter is not a static document but rather a dynamic and frequently updated set of rules heavily influenced by contemporary ethical and moral standards.

    You are comparing the world as it was in 1936 to the world that is today? In the same thread where you call other people 'retarded' for voicing an opinion that differs from your own? Seriously?


    Every time when accusations regarding Mo's paedophilia come up you start explaining that the standards were different back then - which is actually something I quite agree on.

    But then you completely fail to acknowledge that the world we live in today is in fact very different compared to the world that was 80 years ago.

    Back then some of the prominent progressives of the time such as George Bernard Shaw promoted eugenics and 'humane killings":


    Yeah ok, fair point and I only used the word 'retarded' to reply to a similar comment made  Tongue
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #55 - March 02, 2012, 02:09 AM
    lol i assume iran is allowed given this:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQkKvC_sM0
    Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense. - Voltaire
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #56 - March 02, 2012, 02:12 AM
     Cheesy

    According to wiki, six Iranian women are participating in the Olympics.
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #57 - March 02, 2012, 03:24 AM
    why should we banned Saudi's from Olympic, does it have any effect, try to ban the petroleum, use others alternative, we could use bicycle from now..
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #58 - March 02, 2012, 01:17 PM
    Quote from: Kenan on March 01, 2012, 07:30 PM
    Cassidy is an excellent choice btw. Are you into graphic novels?

    Well, I like comics, mainly those that are not supposed to be involved in a big “multiverse” stuff. Because all that bullcrap about putting very different characters in the same big story that runs for more than 50 years, completely unplanned, is pretty bad imho.
    Quote from: Ishina on March 01, 2012, 07:52 PM
    Go watch a real vampire movie like Near Dark

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RR-nVtxvlI

    Movie looks cool, but it's as old as me, so no surprise I didn't saw it yet grin12.
  • Re: Saudi Arabia to be banned from Olympics?
     Reply #59 - March 06, 2012, 10:46 PM
    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 02, 2012, 12:54 AM
    They're not banned and won't be. A human rights report called for their banning, but as usual Saudi's human rights record is overlooked.

    Assuming they allow Dalma Rushdi Malhas to participate. If not, I can quite easily see a ban.

    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 02, 2012, 12:54 AM
    Not sure, judging from the list of participating countries, I'd say the likes of Afghanistan, Pakistan, UAE etc. assuming they don't let women participate, but then they'd yell Islamophobia or something so it'd never happen.

    I don't think Pakistan, Afghanistan or UAE are restricting female athletes who would qualify or breaching the Olympic charter by other means. I'm pretty sure UAE are fielding female swimmers.

    Quote from: Aphrodite on March 02, 2012, 12:54 AM
    And shouldn't have been.

    Like Kenan said, it's nearly a century ago. Very different times and a very different committee with very different leanings. Irrespective of that, the 1936 Olympics were awarded to Germany years before Hitler's rise to power. You could argue that Germany should have forfeit their hosting privilege in light of it's condition in 1936, but that would only be a case for a German 'ban', not a case for allowing Saudi Arabia to participate. If you feel strongly that Germany breached the Olympic spirit, then apply that same reasoning consistently.

    Question: Do you think there should be clear rules and regulations for participation in major international sports events or not?
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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