Amongst my first few posts on this board, I mentioned that the world was being fed a lie vis-a vis palestinian hatred at israelis on religious grounds. That initially the fighback of the palestinians was being carried out by the socialist/nationalist PLO and only with the rise of Hamas (aided and abetted by the Isreali-right) did the cause, turn religious.
I said that the 'media' has focused on the Quran and highlighted verses that deals harshly and comments on killings/battles concerning jews and extrapolates that 1400 year book to the modern day, forcing the audience to look at the palestinian/israeli problem through the prism of islam rather than your common or garden landgrab.
Of course there were massacres, but I suspect for their time a lot worse was going on elsewhere where human nature existed.
It doesn't mention that in those 1400 years jews lived in much more relative peace with muslim 'ummah' than they did amongst christians west. Of course there were massacres, but I suspect for their time a lot worse was going on elsewhere where human nature existed. And I cited evidence from this virulently anti-islamic book -
http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/ (How do you do that thing where I can highlight red for a link?
Where it states that muslims killed ten million of these, hundred million of those but Jews, only in their thousands, like they were their favourite non-muslims lol). Miniscule compared to how jews suffered in christain west.
To support this idea a book has been published. Here is Daniel Pipes (not particularly muslim-friendly lol)view on the book
Under Crescent and Cross: The Jews in the Middle Ages
by Mark R. Cohen http://www.danielpipes.org/677/under-crescent-and-cross-the-jews-in-the-middle-ages#Scene_1It has often been asserted that in medieval times, Jews living in the Muslim lands had it better than their co-religionists in Christendom. Is that assessment accurate? Cohen, professor of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University, attempts an answer in this first-ever book on the comparative history of Jewish life in the two civilizations.
Yes, he concludes, Jews were better off in the Muslim world. In part, this was a matter of physical security: "the Jews of Islam, especially during the formative and classical centuries (up to the thirteenth century), experienced much less persecution than did the Jews of Christendom." Living among Sunni Muslims brought other benefits as well, which Cohen meticulously and convincingly documents: in Dar al-Islam, Jews enjoyed a more regular legal status, they participated far more in the mainstream cultural life, and they had more social interaction with the majority community. In all, Jews living among Muslims were less excluded, making them less vulnerable to assault.
Of particular interest, while Christians had a horror of intermarriage, Muslims allowed it on condition that the man was a Muslim. Indeed, Islamic law requires the Muslim husband to permit his Jewish wife to observe her religious rituals, to pray within the family house, to keep the Sabbath, and to maintain the kosher requirements. She might also read her Scriptures, on the important condition that she not do so out loud.
Cohen's study ends with the thirteenth century; we would be much in his debt were he to follow this pathbreaking and excellent study with another on the subsequent deterioration of the Jewish position in the Muslim world.
He poses that question at the end, I suppose it was still relatively peaceful for the next six, nearly seven centuries, especially in comparison to christian west. Here is a list of pogrom against jews which include both christian west and muslim ummah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PogromThere seems to be a spike in the nineteenth century, kicked off by the Damascus Affair which the christian west also had a hand in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_affairThis incident, which illustrates the tensions that existed between the Jewish and Christian populations of Syria, was notable for being an exception to the rule of Jewish-Muslim relations which during the Tanzimat era in the Ottoman Empire (1839–1920) were generally much better than Christian-Muslim relations due particularly to the economic ascendancy afforded to the Christian community with the relaxation and eventual elimination of the dhimmi status rules in the 1850s. While occasional outbreaks of anti-Jewish violence erupted during this time, far more serious outbreaks of violence occurred between Muslims and Christians and Christians and Druze.[3]
And then we have the 20th century - (the nazis - christian west? probably stirred anti-jewish sentiment amongst muslims). Lol, even now the christian west in the form of Christian Zionist/Evangelist from America have a hand in the hatred.
I would suggest that the expulsion of jews in the forties just before the creation of Israel but mainly after 1948 was due to Arab nationalism rather than Islam.
The 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine or Great Arab Revolt was a nationalist uprising by Palestinian Arabs in Mandate Palestine against British colonial rule and mass Jewish immigration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936-1939_Arab_revolt_in_PalestineRight until Hamas was given succour by the israeli-right, nationalism and not some inherent Islamic anti-semetism was the cause of palestinian hatred of jews.
In other words, the palestinains anger at jews is due to their loss of land rather than some 1400 year old book. Here is how the jews nicked it from under their feet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_and_stockadeTower and stockade (Hebrew: חומה ומגדל, Homa UMigdal, lit. Wall and tower) was a settlement method used by Zionist settlers in the British Mandate of Palestine during the 1936–39 Arab revolt, when the establishment of new Jewish settlements was restricted by the Mandatory authorities. During the course of the Tower and stockade campaign, 52 new Jewish settlements were established throughout the country.
The motivation was to have as much Jewish-owned land as possible populated by Jews, particularly in remote areas, by establishing "facts on the ground." These settlements would eventually be transformed into fortified agricultural settlements, and served for security purposes (as defenses against Arab raiders) as well as creating continuous Jewish-populated regions, which would later help determine the borders of the Partition Plan.
All of the major settlement groups (mostly kibbutzim and moshavim) took part in the campaign, which consisted of assembling a guard tower with a fence around it. While many of these settlements were not approved by the Mandate, existing settlements were not dismantled according to the law at the time. Therefore, the construction of the Tower and Stockade settlements had to be finished very quickly, usually in the course of a single night.
So now we have the media telling us look at them - how they hate the jews, look at their book - how they hated the jews - look at their prophet - how he hated the jews.
Topic: Is Islam Institutionally Anti-Semetic?