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  • Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     OP - March 06, 2012, 11:24 AM

    Hello everybody.

    It's been a while since I have not written here, I hope everyone is doing ok.

    I have the honor of being invited as a speaker at the American Atheists Convention this year on 25-26 of March in Washington DC (following the Reason Rally), where I will be holding a 30 minutes speech, followed by 15 minutes of Q&A.

    My topic of choice is going to be cultural relativism and Islam. I will be addressing both the religious bigotry and racism that Muslims face as a minority in the West, but also talk about the necessity of criticizing Islam and the oppression/inequality/infringement of freedoms that comes with it.
    I would also like to mention that there is an even a smaller minority: the ex Muslims who have the courage to not only publicly denounce their religion, but also be vocal about criticizing Islam - even if it means facing the social consequences that come with this "tabu" within Muslim communities.

    But I need a little bit of help.
    If you feel comfortable enough to send me a picture of yourself with your real name, I will use it in a collage at the end of my speech. This has been done before on YouTube, but I don't want to use that footage since I am not sure if everybody in it is willing to appear with their face and name in front of so many people.

    If you think you will be safe and are comfortable with doing this, please send me a picture along with your name to my email address : kaida_kane@yahoo.com .

    Thank you to anyone who even considers being part of my presentation, I know it would take a lot for you to do it and I completely understand if you decline.

    Hope to see some of you in DC later this March <3
    Criss

    P.S. : I cannot post links but you can easily find the details about the Reason Rally and American Atheist Convention online Smiley
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #1 - March 06, 2012, 11:55 AM

    Hi Zomgitscriss,

    Long time no see. Hope you are doing okay. Well done for securing a spot at the convention, best of luck for it. I cant send a pic to you as I am not ex-muslim but I have your 'back'. Tell us if you want anything else, I'm sure people would help even if they do not give a picture to you, some ideas to speak out about.

  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #2 - March 06, 2012, 12:01 PM

    Sure, ideas are welcomed too. If you would like me to address something in particular, don't hesitate to share some thoughts Smiley
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #3 - March 06, 2012, 12:03 PM

    Grazias.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #4 - March 06, 2012, 12:42 PM

    done.
    good luck criss (i think you will do brilliantly)..
    stay safe in washington!..
    tc  far away hug
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #5 - March 06, 2012, 01:17 PM

    Hey Zomgits,

    l love your passionate and funny vids, please keep up the good work. I look forward to watching the upload of your speech.

    Can I request that on your channel you give props to channels critical of Islam? Like;

    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRationalizer
    http://www.youtube.com/user/CEMBadmins
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Lorientalist
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Klingschor
    http://www.youtube.com/user/StopSpamming1
    http://www.youtube.com/user/ExMuslimUK
    http://www.youtube.com/user/strangestdude
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #6 - March 06, 2012, 02:22 PM

    Ce Faci ZOMGITSCRISS, I have watched many of your funny vids Smiley.


  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #7 - March 06, 2012, 05:05 PM

    Welcome back and welcome to America. Would offer my pic and testimony but I'm not technically an ex-Muslim, just an atheist Arab-American named Mohammed with a Muslim father. Tongue

    "In battle, the well-honed spork is more dangerous than the mightiest sword" -- Sun Tzu
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #8 - March 06, 2012, 08:22 PM

    P.S. : I cannot post links but you can easily find the details about the Reason Rally and American Atheist Convention online Smiley

    If you would stop forgetting your old password and making new accounts, you'd still be able to post links. Grin

    You should be able to post links on your new account now anyway. Wink

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #9 - March 06, 2012, 08:53 PM

    Ex Muslim and proud

    I... can't post links yet though >.>

    I used to be powerful, then I started blogging.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #10 - March 06, 2012, 08:56 PM

    It's a basic (and effective) anti-spam precaution to prevent posting of links for new accounts. The restriction is lifted after a few posts. We don't post the exact number publicly, as then all the spammers would be able to read it and we'd have to increase the limit anyway.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #11 - March 06, 2012, 09:37 PM

     Go Criss!
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #12 - March 07, 2012, 08:11 AM

    It happened that I read your post on YT, and considered that on Youtube 're a big advocate for censorship, and anti-free speech, I decided to come on this forum and to  ask my question.

    How can you ask these people to: -to send a picture with there real name-, when yourself, do not reveal your real name?

    And in their case will have nothing to gain by this, but in your case even if you get large sums of money, free travels, and a lot of gifts for your campaign of hatred, you decide to stay safe and never to revealed your real name.

    And for those reading this post, and who want to give me a quick example, of what religion did in some forgotten corner of the world. Ask yourself this:

    Does hatred justify hatred ?

    I want to live for immortality, and I will accept no compromise. from F.Dostoyevsky
    Le XXI?me si?cle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas - Andr? Malraux
    Eu cand discut cu un ateu e ca si cum as discuta cu usa - Petre Tutea
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #13 - March 07, 2012, 10:46 AM

    @ VyckRO:

    "what religion did in some forgotten corner of the world."


     dance  dance  dance

    It is actually through all corners of the world, u have to know a bit of history to know this.

  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #14 - March 07, 2012, 01:11 PM

    I did not referred to Islam, as a whole, or Christianity or ...whatever, as a whole.
    Atheist always provides examples whit extremists, to legitimize their violent speech.
    This is  what I meant.

    I want to live for immortality, and I will accept no compromise. from F.Dostoyevsky
    Le XXI?me si?cle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas - Andr? Malraux
    Eu cand discut cu un ateu e ca si cum as discuta cu usa - Petre Tutea
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #15 - March 07, 2012, 01:58 PM

    Quote
    to legitimize their violent speech


    'violent speech'

    We need a name for this syndrome, call it the Warsi Fallacy or something.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #16 - March 07, 2012, 01:59 PM

    It would give her too much attention, it would be better to let her legacy die with her as a nobody.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #17 - March 07, 2012, 02:02 PM


    Well we need something snappy for this lie that keeps getting propounded in which all those who repudiate whatever religious tenet are equated with 'fundamentalists' 'miltants' 'extremists' and this peach, of engaging in 'violent speech'

    It needs to be summed up in one pithy phrase.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #18 - March 07, 2012, 02:04 PM

    The Hizb-Ul-Dawkins fallacy?

    Suggestions on a postcard!


    Seriously though I want to know what 'violent' phrases ZOMG has been saying against CHristianity, I mean, I haven't watched her videos on a long while (no offence of course, my interests have just moved onto politics) but I seriously doubt anything could be called violent, let alone aggressive.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #19 - March 07, 2012, 02:08 PM


    Anything that repudiates their religious belief is decried as violent, militant, fundamentalist etc etc

    In the same way that those who critique Islam are hysterically called Islamophobic.

    Its a variation on that, basically a way to slander rather than deal with the argument (which wins, because they have to resort to this rhetoric - its basically the naked emperor screaming in response to his exposure)

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #20 - March 07, 2012, 02:09 PM

    Anything that repudiates their religious belief is decried as violent, militant, fundamentalist etc etc

    In the same way that those who critique Islam are hysterically called Islamophobic.

    Its a variation on that, basically a way to slander rather than deal with the argument (which wins, because they have to resort to this rhetoric - its basically the naked emperor screaming in response to his exposure)


    Perfect analogy.

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #21 - March 07, 2012, 02:20 PM

    'violent speech'

    We need a name for this syndrome, call it the Warsi Fallacy or something.



    Warsi's Law (also known as Warsi's Principle of Whining Fuckery)

    As a religious discussion grows longer, the probability of a bogus equivalence between mild religious criticism and extremist hate speech approaches 1.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #22 - March 07, 2012, 02:22 PM


    Perfect ^^^


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #23 - March 07, 2012, 03:19 PM

    Warsi's Law (also known as Warsi's Principle of Whining Fuckery)

    As a religious discussion grows longer, the probability of a bogus equivalence between mild religious criticism and extremist hate speech approaches 1.



    <3

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #24 - March 07, 2012, 03:35 PM

    I did not referred to Islam, as a whole, or Christianity or ...whatever, as a whole.
    Atheist always provides examples whit extremists, to legitimize their violent speech.
    This is  what I meant.



  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #25 - March 07, 2012, 06:27 PM

    Actually it's not just, someone uses a hard speech once, twice, or occasionally, is that this speech is used obsessively, by the neo-atheists.
    Is that this speech, aims to present all religious people ( Christians in general, atheist will avoid criticizing Judaism, because they do not like to be accused of "anti-Semitism", and avoid attacking Muslim, because they do not like to be accused of "racism") as stupid people, retarded, dumb, while atheists are present as rationalist.
    I heard some atheists kids on yt, and in  videoconferencing saying that atheists are call "rationalist" or "scientists".
    It's the systematic implementation, of the idea, that you can not trust a man who holds a religious belief, that such a man is dangerous, and in their blogs, post, videos, the religious man, will be automatically associated with a "Muslim terrorist" or whit some  Pentecostal fanatic.
    Furthermore, atheist have a whole obsession, that if "religious people win" the end of the world will come, and that we should do something quickly.
    They imagine that they are soldiers in a war, and that this war will decide the fate of humanity.
    But let's do not forget how all the atheist experiments failed, starting whit the French Revolution, Paris Commune, the Mexico atheist regime post 1917 constitution ap to the Cristero War, the Cultural Revolution in China, the League of militant atheist from U.R.S.S., the atheist regime in Albania.
    Each time the same story that we should do something quickly, we should do something quickly and not let these religious people "win".

    The atheist speech aims to generate a whole phobia, against any religious man. We should not forget that the two 
    totalitarian regimes of the last century started whit some funny caricatures that presented "obsessively", Jews in Germany, and landowners and priests in Russia, in a certain way.

    It's the same obsession, to attack an entire group, for what, some have made.
    The "rational" thing to do, would be to try to explain and to gain allies from various religious denominations, and
    together to find answers, against fanaticism. But what atheists trying to is to create a gap, with them on one side as "rationalists" and everyone else on the  other side as "retarded".

    I want to live for immortality, and I will accept no compromise. from F.Dostoyevsky
    Le XXI?me si?cle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas - Andr? Malraux
    Eu cand discut cu un ateu e ca si cum as discuta cu usa - Petre Tutea
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #26 - March 07, 2012, 06:38 PM

    It's the same obsession, to attack an entire group, for what, some have made.

    Just as long as you're not attacking an entire group to get your point across. Oh wait...

    Atheist always provides examples whit extremists, to legitimize their violent speech... it's not just, someone uses a hard speech once, twice, or occasionally, is that this speech is used obsessively, by the neo-atheists... atheist will avoid criticizing Judaism, because they do not like to be accused of "anti-Semitism", and avoid attacking Muslim, because they do not like to be accused of "racism"... Furthermore, atheist have a whole obsession, that if "religious people win" the end of the world will come, and that we should do something quickly...But let's do not forget how all the atheist experiments failed... The atheist speech aims to generate a whole phobia, against any religious man... but what atheists trying to is to create a gap, with them on one side as "rationalists" and everyone else on the  other side as "retarded"...


    Remove that plank from thine eye, bitch.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #27 - March 07, 2012, 07:28 PM

     Grin

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #28 - March 07, 2012, 08:25 PM

    Quote
    Remove that plank from thine eye, bitch

    It is that English?  may is Athelish?

    I want to live for immortality, and I will accept no compromise. from F.Dostoyevsky
    Le XXI?me si?cle sera spirituel ou ne sera pas - Andr? Malraux
    Eu cand discut cu un ateu e ca si cum as discuta cu usa - Petre Tutea
  • Re: Cristina Rad (zomgitscriss) speech on Islam at AAC
     Reply #29 - March 07, 2012, 08:48 PM



    That made me LMAO!!!  Cheesy
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