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  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #240 - October 30, 2012, 11:23 PM

    This is one of the best things I've ever seen in my life

    A Message from The Greatest Generation
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f17fWth3YgA

    001_wub

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #241 - October 30, 2012, 11:46 PM

     Cheesy That's awesome.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #242 - October 31, 2012, 05:04 PM

    How sad is it that most of us are supporting Obama over Romney not out of love for him or the Democrats, but because the alternative is so much worse? I was thinking today, it's like the group waiting for execution and hoping their captors choose the guillotine over the rusty axe.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #243 - October 31, 2012, 05:23 PM

    ^that reminds me of this-

    "Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously and the politicians as a joke."
    Will Rogers (1879-1935)



    "In every religion there is love, yet love has no religion"

    "The intellectual runs away, afraid of drowning; the whole business of love is to drown in the sea." - Rumi
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #244 - October 31, 2012, 06:29 PM

    How sad is it that most of us are supporting Obama over Romney not out of love for him or the Democrats, but because the alternative is so much worse? I was thinking today, it's like the group waiting for execution and hoping their captors choose the guillotine over the rusty axe.


    True, the last thing this world needs is another George Bush with a fucked up foreign policy that would plunge us into darkness.If it wasn't  for republicans there wouldn't be anti-american sentiments in a muslim world(West Africa specifically) or probably a terrorist organizations here. Before Bush, people didnt hate America that much and there weren't really much extremism.If Romney and republicans gets back into power, oh boy!

    Not to mention their anti-abortion stance has made matters worse in West Africa when they offer aid and grants to combat HIV/AIDs with a condition that hospitals and clinics should accept funds only if they discourage the use of contraceptives and no abortion but encourage sex abstinence. Also they may encourage the Anti-Gay bill rights to be passed in National Assemblies.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #245 - October 31, 2012, 08:43 PM

    Why Bookmakers and gamblers are more reliable than polls and polling data

    Quote


    How Gamblers -- History's Most Accurate Election Forecasters -- Are Betting on 2012

    I don't like uncertainty. The current presidential polls -- Gallup with Romney leading by three percent, CBS with Obama up by two percent, aggregators split on whose nose is ahead -- are a hotbed of uncertainty. Fortunately there are veritable election oracles I can turn to instead: gamblers.

    In 2004, Gallup failed to forecast the winner of the popular vote for president -- for the second straight election. Halfway through Election Day 2004, various exit polls showed Kerry with the lead. Meanwhile 91 percent of bettors on Betfair.com had their money on Bush. The betting markets also were correct on the winner in each of the 50 states.

    Before the 2008 election, I spoke to Koleman Strumpf, a University of Kansas economics professor who tracks betting trends. "Relative to the polls, the betting markets have to think hard about what they're saying since they are putting their money at stake," he said. "Also polls tend to reflect what people are thinking at a given moment, versus a forecast of what will happen on election day -- post-convention bounces, for instance."

    Added Paulick Report editor Ray Paulick, one of America's top horseracing handicappers and a political prediction markets aficionado, "Gamblers have more experience with cheaters. They take voter fraud into their metrics. Polls don't. Nor do polls take into account intangibles like how each state's secretary of state factors in or systems within a state designed to eliminate voters."

    In 2008, 90 percent of gamblers correctly forecast an Obama victory. They were also on the money with 48 of 50 states.

    Gamblers' success in this arena is nothing new. In presidential races beginning in 1896, the New York Times, Sun, and World provided daily betting quotes. The papers' sources were bookies who had agents at every stump and whistle-stop to gather intel and quantify popular sentiment. Between 1884 and 1940, the bettors erred on just one of sixteen elections, Wilson's 1916 upset of Hughes.

    Ironically, polls sent gamblers to the sideline. "Prior to Gallup's introduction in 1936, newspapers had little to report about the election horse race other than the betting markets," Strumpf explains. "When scientific polls came along, newspapers had something to report other than markets they were oftentimes uncomfortable with."

    The same discomfort led to states relegating such gamblers to outlaws. The Internet has given rise to new forums, however. As of this writing, betting at the three biggest prediction markets is as follows: Betfair has Obama with a 64 percent chance to win to Romney's 36 percent; Intrade has the president at 58 percent; and the Iowa Electronic Markets have the president at 59 percent. Oddschecker shows bookmakers to be even more bullish on Obama.

    Why are the polls and gamblers so far apart?

    "The answer highlights one of the main differences between the polls and markets like Intrade," Intrade's exchange operations manager Carl Wolfenden told me. "The polls ask who you're going to vote for -- a question that requires an emotional response. Intrade asks who you think will win -- a rational question that requires someone to look at the facts and real world events, such as polls, debates, speeches, gaffes, scandals and crises. One of these facts is the Electoral College, which isn't accounted for in polls."

    Why the big lead for Obama?

    "Our markets recognize that Romney probably needs to win Ohio to beat Obama," Wolfenden says. "And so the price for Obama to be reelected has closely tracked his probability of winning Ohio. So while Romney may lead in the polls, and he may have flipped a number of other key states -- such as Florida, Virginia, Colorado -- to his side of the ledger, our markets appear to believe that without Ohio he can't get it done."

    Strumpf adds: "I think the big message in this election cycle is that polls are giving conflicting answers, and unless you are willing to look at several state-level polls, it is hard to make sense of it all. The prediction markets like Intrade cut through all this and give us a single number to focus on."

    Still, the consensus among gamblers isn't as strong as in the last two elections. At approximately 3-2 odds, is the outcome in this election any more certain than that of a horse race?

    "I much prefer this kind of 60-40 probability than I would in a horse race," says Paulick. "In a match race between two horses over a course of one-and-a-quarter miles, a lot of things can go suddenly wrong. The election is more of a marathon, a four-year race. Short of a huge scandal, I can't see an outcome other than Obama's reelection."



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/keith-thomson/how-gamblers--historys-mo_b_2011534.html

    More articles on flawed polling (especially Gallup, which underreps non-white voters):

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-abramowitz/election-polls-gallup_b_1989865.html
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nick-gourevitch/age-different-polling-skew_b_1952251.html
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-sigman/polls-sham-polls-and-ling_b_1909537.html

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #246 - October 31, 2012, 08:48 PM

    I'm slightly paranoid that my voter registration information was input incorrectly when I know for damn sure I checked over it twice before I submitted it. Maybe it's the foreign-sounding name that put people off double-checking to see if it was right or not. I wonder if this is how those folks who had their registration cards "lost" (read: thrown right out with the trash) or the people that were purposely given the wrong information for voting times felt.

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #247 - October 31, 2012, 08:51 PM

    Don't let them put you off, Republicans love low voter turnout and putting people off voting

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression

    http://www.examiner.com/article/gop-voter-suppression-fraud-intimidation-harm-nation-s-future

    From the above

    Quote


    there have also been phony letters mailed to registered voters in Florida falsely indicating that they were not registered to vote, though the source and political affiliation of these letters is still uncertain and is presently under investigation




    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #248 - October 31, 2012, 09:05 PM

    Yes, I know. It's no secret that GOP members and office holders have been throwing out registration forms in select areas of the country, primarily low-income, and handing out misinformation so that the disenfranchised don't have an opportunity to decide for themselves what the future will bring. Happened in Florida with Bush Jr. in the 2000 election and again in 2004 in NY and Minnesota. I'm sure they'll also be counting on apathetic voters who have no faith in the electoral college or voting in general (but really, who could blame them?).

    I really wish this nation could come together and do away with this silly voting process, honestly. But the only way people are truly powerless is if they believe they have no power, innit? I'm hoping it'll happen someday, very, very soon.

    "I know where I'm going and I know the truth, and I don't have to be what you want me to be. I'm free to be what I want."
    Muhammad Ali
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #249 - November 01, 2012, 04:20 AM

    I think social conservatism is a good thing.

    There are a lot of liberal lies floating around out there, but it's very hard for you guys to see it because you've been lied to your whole lives. More at eleven.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #250 - November 01, 2012, 06:54 PM

    I think social conservatism is a good thing.

    This reaches my brain as "I think crap stuff is a good thing."

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #251 - November 02, 2012, 02:17 AM

    Mitt Romney talking about Mormonism, Abortion

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxMD02zU9SE

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #252 - November 02, 2012, 02:27 AM

    That man just pinned the slipperiest of fish.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #253 - November 02, 2012, 03:42 AM

    This is depressing as hell

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=lyV9Owe3ojA&NR=1

    Life is what happens to you while you're staring at your smartphone.

    Eternal Sunshine of the Religionless Mind
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #254 - November 02, 2012, 04:27 AM




    "In every religion there is love, yet love has no religion"

    "The intellectual runs away, afraid of drowning; the whole business of love is to drown in the sea." - Rumi
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #255 - November 02, 2012, 05:21 AM



    This is my response to the War on Drugs also that video is LOUD NOISES!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVkk6fH2u0Y

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #256 - November 02, 2012, 02:57 PM

     Hilarious.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U&

    My favorites:

    "His father was a Muslim, his father was an Atheist, and his father was a Communist"

    "These Buddhists are coming over here and trying to take away our religious freedoms"

     Cheesy Cheesy
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #257 - November 02, 2012, 03:07 PM

    You'd have to be pretty ignorant to live in Ohio and vote for Romney.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #258 - November 02, 2012, 03:09 PM



    He may be right about drugs, but the guy is an insane bigot with unworkable ideas.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #259 - November 02, 2012, 03:14 PM

    Current update: Poll averages, Obama +0.3% (this is before the hurricane in which he was seen to have done a steller job, post Hurricane polls are going to be better, one recent poll said 82% of the country were happy with the way he handled the disaster). Intrade has him at 67.4%. He's winning solidly in most of the battleground states that Romney needs all of to win, except for Virginia and Florida where Romney still has the slight edge. As it stands, an Obama victory is looking more likely than it did a few weeks ago.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QmZWv-eBI
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #260 - November 02, 2012, 07:44 PM

    Hilarious.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U&

    My favorites:

    "His father was a Muslim, his father was an Atheist, and his father was a Communist"

    "These Buddhists are coming over here and trying to take away our religious freedoms"

     Cheesy Cheesy

    It is hilarious. Problem is that those people are real, and there are a lot more like them, and they get to vote.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #261 - November 02, 2012, 08:03 PM

    Found some interesting stuff yesterday, while cruising around and looking articles related to this election. This is something that hadn't occurred to me before, but I think it's accurate:

    Quote
    Rivard’s comments point to a consistent faction of the Republican Party—including his ally Paul Ryan—that believes rape has not been defined clearly enough and is thus often exploited by women who want to claim to be raped. This offensive leap in logic is required to justify a stand that abortion should not ever be legal—even in cases of rape.

    I think that's what is really behind this fundy Republican obsession with redefining rape. The ones who are moderate (more or less) are prepared to make some exceptions to their anti-abortion stance, but obviously they'd prefer it if they didn't have to. The way around this is as indicated in the quote.

    Oh and this blog is very interesting, as well as being quite a lot of fun to read. The author was raised as one of the most bonkers sorts of fundy evangelist, but managed to come to her senses. She gives some very good insights into how those people think.

    This post about the "pro-life" movement is very good: How I Lost Faith in the “Pro-Life” Movement

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #262 - November 02, 2012, 09:51 PM

    The media trying to make this election seem close is annoying. Romney doesn't stand a chance. Even at his peak when he was leading in the popular vote, he still was closing the electoral college. And now that the polls are moving towards Obama we could be looking at 2008-esque blowout.

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #263 - November 02, 2012, 10:06 PM



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjrthOPLAKM

    LOL

    Like a compass needle that points north, a man?s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always.

    Khaled Hosseini - A thousand splendid suns.
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #264 - November 02, 2012, 11:33 PM

    The media trying to make this election seem close is annoying. Romney doesn't stand a chance. Even at his peak when he was leading in the popular vote, he still was closing the electoral college. And now that the polls are moving towards Obama we could be looking at 2008-esque blowout.


    There is actually a bit of a scuffle going on over here where a stats guy who's pretty outgoing has consistantly had the probability of Obama's victory at 60+%, and started calling out pundits who were calling it a coin flip.  The pundits started flipping out because they realize that they can't keep making up bullshit and take home a paycheck if some stats guy is going to check up on their facts and predictions and see how well they do. 

    http://updates.gawker.com/post/34834051730/shooting-the-messengers-numbers-nate-silvers

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #265 - November 03, 2012, 01:52 AM

    And now for the really important stuff:

    Obama better if aliens invade

    Quote
    Americans may be split on which presidential candidate can fix the economy, but President Barack Obama trounces Mitt Romney in one out-of-this-world scenario — an alien invasion.

    The majority of Americans, nearly 65 percent, say Obama is better suited than Romney to handle an alien invasion, according to a new National Geographic Channel poll.


    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #266 - November 03, 2012, 11:21 PM

    There is actually a bit of a scuffle going on over here where a stats guy who's pretty outgoing has consistantly had the probability of Obama's victory at 60+%, and started calling out pundits who were calling it a coin flip.  The pundits started flipping out because they realize that they can't keep making up bullshit and take home a paycheck if some stats guy is going to check up on their facts and predictions and see how well they do. 

    http://updates.gawker.com/post/34834051730/shooting-the-messengers-numbers-nate-silvers

    Yeah, Nate Silver has a really good track record and his blog is a must read for anyone following the election.
    Quote
    Nevertheless, these arguments are potentially more intellectually coherent than the ones that propose that the leader in the race is “too close to call.” It isn’t. If the state polls are right, then Mr. Obama will win the Electoral College. If you can’t acknowledge that after a day when Mr. Obama leads 19 out of 20 swing-state polls, then you should abandon the pretense that your goal is to inform rather than entertain the public.

    ^truth

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #267 - November 04, 2012, 07:34 PM

    Chris Rock - Message for White Voters

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDxOSjgl5Z4

    Cher and Kathy mock Romney ad

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS8qj1kTgSA

    "In every religion there is love, yet love has no religion"

    "The intellectual runs away, afraid of drowning; the whole business of love is to drown in the sea." - Rumi
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #268 - November 05, 2012, 12:48 AM

    Hilarious.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY0M7IdNl7U&

    My favorites:

    "His father was a Muslim, his father was an Atheist, and his father was a Communist"

    "These Buddhists are coming over here and trying to take away our religious freedoms"

     Cheesy Cheesy


    Geez How much drugs did those guys have to take to become that stupid....

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Re: USA politics Low Content Thread
     Reply #269 - November 05, 2012, 12:55 AM

    Geez How much drugs did those guys have to take to become that stupid....

    you don't need drugs and drinks to be stupid  TheDarkRebel..., It is lack of commonsense and lack of high school background..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0j59fNcf_E


    Well  on that stupid Americans ...Salaam. Shalom. Shanti. that is good to read from Anwar Iqbal.. And that is about an UNKNOWN AMERICAN..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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