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 Topic: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform

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  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #30 - April 01, 2012, 12:37 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on March 30, 2012, 07:00 PM
    Is this true, or is this perhaps all part and parcel of our Islamic upbringing...................that I wonder.  Thinking hard

    Stop thinking BerberElla .. Open a Mosque for ex-Muslims  similar to that American Mixed gender Mosque..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #31 - April 01, 2012, 01:04 PM
    Quote from: David on April 01, 2012, 11:19 AM
    As for the whole 'men can't control themselves' angle, it would offend the fuck out of me if I could be bothered being offended. But then I have been accused of being 'impotent' by a lapdancer-cum-psychology-student because I didn't make a pass at her when we went out to supper together.

    models.. dancers..
     popcorn *needs more information*  popcorn
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #32 - April 01, 2012, 01:11 PM
    Good body, so-so face, little sense of humour, sexually voracious.

    I'm not sure she'd ever met a man who didn't want to fuck her. So it followed that I must be impotent.
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #33 - April 01, 2012, 01:21 PM
    ... you put her out of her comfort zone...


    oh!! to be a fly on the wall in Davids life !!  popcorn
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #34 - April 01, 2012, 01:26 PM
    I cant remember if i was surfing and found it, or saw the video on here,
    but there was a muslimah here in the states who was really putting it out
    there that she was tired of either being way in the back, or up in a balcony
    during Jummah. 

    Personally, I didnt have a prob being in the back, cuz I was definitely scoping
    the view in front of me  Cheesy  Plus i kept forgetting parts of al fatiah and never
    could remember how many fucking rakas to do for what.  The sisters kept
    changing it up on me telling "no no! Do FOUR rakas"  "dont listen to her! Do
    two, then two, then two"  "oh, sister the truth is you do two, four then two
    again"  I was like screw it.  Ill just watch everyone in front of me and stop
    when they do. 
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #35 - April 01, 2012, 02:02 PM
    Quote from: nessrriinn on April 01, 2012, 01:21 PM
    Davids life !!

    Dull bits 99%. Vaguely interesting bits 1%, and they're the ones I talk about.

    Really interesting people keep it all under their hat. This pisses me off no end because I love hearing about other peoples' lives.
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #36 - April 01, 2012, 07:28 PM
    Quote from: David on April 01, 2012, 02:02 PM
    Dull bits 99%. Vaguely interesting bits 1%, and they're the ones I talk about.

    Really interesting people keep it all under their hat. This pisses me off no end because I love hearing about other peoples' lives.


    Note to self: Start writing that blog about all the different kinds of sandwiches I like to eat.
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    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #37 - April 03, 2012, 03:09 AM
    Aren't there mosques in Turkey where men and women pray together ?
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #38 - April 03, 2012, 04:05 AM
    Quote from: asbdsp on April 01, 2012, 07:28 PM
    Note to self: Start writing that blog about all the different kinds of sandwiches I like to eat.


    Make sure to include pictures.   
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #39 - April 03, 2012, 02:21 PM
    Quote from: billy on March 30, 2012, 04:10 PM
    Judaism survived as a living faith precisely because it allowed Liberal and Reform schools to formally breathe away from the Orthodox. That is, Judaism allowed that liberal space to be institutionalised, and allowed a plurality of interpretations to co-exist, even if they disagree, they are still 'Jewish'

    Jewish position was very different. When you are constantly fighting against persecution, you don't have much time to also fight with your neighbor because of small difference in faith.
    Even if some orthodox Jew wanted to persecute progressive Jew, they would not have the physical means to do so !
    Quote from: billy on April 01, 2012, 11:31 AM
    Islam is anomalous in this, because no other religion disallows the sharing of the sacred worship space by women and men.

    Judaism do. At least some branch of it. I've been very few time to the synagogue, thanks giant pink invisible pasta unicorn, but I've seen the separation between the men and the women part of one of Grenoble's synagogue.
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #40 - April 03, 2012, 02:26 PM

    There are some orthodox synagogues and ultra-orthodox schools where that is practised, but that isn't normative. They are the exception that proves the rule. That liberalising impulse allowed reform Judaism to modernise and still be part of Judaism. The mainstream of every major religion allows mixed-congregation worship. Its the other way round in Islam.

    You can read the history of Jewish reform and liberalism in a number of ways. The point is it has been achieved, in a way analogous to what these idealists are trying to achieve.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #41 - April 03, 2012, 02:36 PM
    http://www.firstyear.cas.nyu.edu/object/io_1332959920925.html
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #42 - April 03, 2012, 03:29 PM
    Quote from: aife on April 03, 2012, 03:09 AM
    Aren't there mosques in Turkey where men and women pray together ?


    arent they sufi tho?
    When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has been opened for us.
    Helen Keller
  • Progressive Muslims Launch Gay-Friendly, Women-Led Mosques In Attempt To Reform
     Reply #43 - December 08, 2014, 04:13 PM
    Interview with Ani Zonneweld from Muslims for Progressive Values:
    https://www.opendemocracy.net/5050/ani-zonneveld/progressive-muslims-in-world-of-isis-and-islamophobes
    Which side are you on?
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