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 Poll

  • Question: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
  • Like him - 7 (33.3%)
  • Don't like him - 11 (52.4%)
  • Neutral - 3 (14.3%)
  • Total Voters: 21

 Topic: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?

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  • What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     OP - April 13, 2012, 10:36 PM

    I was watching this video from the CEMB youtube channel.

    In this video Robert Spencer is shown as a backdrop whilst the speaker is talking about "Christian Fundamentalists". If Robert Spencer is a Christian Fundamentalist then that is news to me, I have only ever heard him talking about Islam, never Christianity. I have not read any of his books but I have seen his youtube videos and his website and I happen to agree with just about everything he has said. He sometimes appears on Fox News which makes him seem to be right-wing, but I have never actually heard him talking about politics so I do not even know that for sure.

    What do people here think of Robert Spencer? Do they like him or not? My vote is that I like him.

    This other guy Geert Wilders is also shown in the same video when the speaker is talking about right wing fanatics and racists. I know even less about Geert Wilders and I am not sure I like him. If his principal goal is too kick immigrants out of his country then I would not support that platform, but I did hear that his film, Fitna was banned in some country and he was banned from entering the UK because of it. I watched his Fitna video on youtube and I can honestly say that I could not find anything innacurate or untrue about it and therefore cannot see why it should be banned whatever his other beliefs are.

    Anyway the poll is about Robert Spencer, do you like him or not? And why do you dislike him?

    I am also interesting in what people think of this Geert Wilders guy as well, I haven't really made my mind up about him and I am interested in hearing what people here have to say about him.
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #1 - April 13, 2012, 11:37 PM

    Alarmist dickhead…

    …but the scaremongeringly subtitled book The Truth About Muhammad does contain some rather striking points in its favour. Then again, that doesn’t have any bearing on Islam as it stands NOW, and I think he tends deliberately to ignore the more ‘liberal’ schools of thought.
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #2 - April 13, 2012, 11:44 PM

    Robert Spencer and Geert Wilders both fall into my "should be shot" list.
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #3 - April 13, 2012, 11:53 PM

    ^Couldnt agree more, he's a fucktard. Hell i dont like Christian fundamentalists

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #4 - April 13, 2012, 11:56 PM

    Robert Spencer and Geert Wilders both fall into my "should be shot" list.


    Who else is on it?

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #5 - April 13, 2012, 11:59 PM

    Robert Spencer:

    Fearmongering/hatemongering scumbag, allies himself with the very worst right-wing elements (like the EDL), his organization SIOA has been labeled a hate-group by the ADL (and the ADL itself is very heavily critical of Islam and Muslims and is hawkishly pro-Israel), he seems to back up his SIOA buddy Pam Geller in her denial of the Srbrenica massacre, has accused the founder of CEMB (Maryam Namazie) and one of this forum's founders (Hassan Radwan) basically of being stealth-jihadists/jihadist apologists for condemning his hatemongering. I'm not sure if he's a Christian fundamentalist himself, but some of his closest allies are.

    ETA: If Spencer said the shit he does about Muslims, except about Jews is there any doubt he'd be considered a dangerous, fanatical right-wing hatemonger? Shit just backing up or being closely associated with a Holocaust denier alone (like Geller denies Srbrenica) would be enough to condemn him. Interesting article on this very topic-- http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/11/robert-spencer-and-julius-streicher-islamophobia-and-anti-semitism-same-message-different-minority/

    Geert Wilders:

    Fearmongering populist demagogue pandering to xenophobic and anti-immigrant sentiment amongst his electoral base. Like most politicians (regardless of ideological stripe), his main principle is power and fame. Unprincipled hypocrite-- holds himself up as a martyr for free speech while calling for the Quran to be banned. Has cozied up to the same dangerous American right-wing reactionaries Spencer has.

    Both shitbags and a good example that "blowback" works both ways when it comes to Islamism (Western foreign policy during and since the Cold War has helped encourage the development of reactionary Islamism, which in turn has helped encourage the development of reactionary movements in the West).

    ETA: Just some additional clarification Tonyt...

    his film, Fitna was banned in some country and he was banned from entering the UK because of it. I watched his Fitna video on youtube and I can honestly say that I could not find anything innacurate or untrue about it and therefore cannot see why it should be banned whatever his other beliefs are.


    1. The British travel ban was lifted.
    2. I'm pretty sure no one from CEMB supported that travel ban, and I'm absolutely sure many opposed it on free speech grounds. Same goes for banning his film. Unlike Wilders himself, CEMB has been pretty consistent in upholding the right of free speech, even for those with whom they disagree.

    Who else is on it?



    Worried you might be?  Cheesy

    fuck you
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #6 - April 14, 2012, 12:03 AM


    I'm on too many to care already cool2

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #7 - April 14, 2012, 12:04 AM

    Who else is on it?



    Most heads of states, CEOs of corporations and lots of other people. Don't worry, you're not on it.  Smiley
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #8 - April 14, 2012, 12:09 AM

    Quote
    and lots of other people


    Like who?

    OK, I'm not busting your balls, just curious. Don't have murderous feelings towards anyone myself to be honest. Certainly not gobshites like Robert Spencer.



    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #9 - April 14, 2012, 12:20 AM

    She doesn't have balls to bust. Well, not that we know of.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #10 - April 14, 2012, 12:23 AM

    ^ Can I bust your balls?

    Like who?

    OK, I'm not busting your balls, just curious. Don't have murderous feelings towards anyone myself to be honest. Certainly not gobshites like Robert Spencer.


    You're like the Gandhi of CEMB.  Tongue
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #11 - April 14, 2012, 12:25 AM

    What makes you think they still work anyway? Tongue

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #12 - April 14, 2012, 12:27 AM

    ^ Can I bust your balls?

    You're like the Gandhi of CEMB.  Tongue


    Nah, I'm not a pacifist.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #13 - April 14, 2012, 12:29 AM

    What makes you think they still work anyway? Tongue


    Well if they're like saggy and wrinkly, can I just chop em off?
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #14 - April 14, 2012, 12:32 AM

    All balls are saggy and wrinkly. yes

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #15 - April 14, 2012, 12:34 AM

    I wouldn't know.  Muslimah
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #16 - April 14, 2012, 12:49 AM

    Not sure why this went from Robert Spencer and Geert Wilders to Os' balls.  Ho hum.   parrot

    Anyway, I don't like them.  (Spencer and Wilders that is, I have no opinion on Os' balls).

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #17 - April 14, 2012, 12:51 AM

    what you don't know is that spencer and wilders are oz's balls.
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #18 - April 14, 2012, 12:53 AM

    That reminds of that episode of South Park where Oprah's vagina and asshole start plotting against her.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #19 - April 14, 2012, 01:27 AM

    OK, well thanks for all the feedback everyone. I need to do some more research on all of these acronymns (EDL, ADL, ETA, etc.)  Huh?
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #20 - April 14, 2012, 01:29 AM

    EDL = English Defense League

    ADL = Anti-Defamation League

    ETA = Edited to add

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #21 - April 14, 2012, 01:37 AM

    That reminds of that episode of South Park where Oprah's vagina and asshole start plotting against her.


    I remember that episode Grin

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #22 - April 14, 2012, 01:40 AM

    I should post a picture of my balls so Cheetah can have an informed opinion. parrot

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #23 - April 14, 2012, 01:42 AM

    I agree with the responses above regarding Spencer and Wilders.  Just wish to add that I, for one, left Islam primarily because it was not *true* and now intellectual honesty matters to me a lot. Spencer is clearly biased against Islam and takes verses/hadiths out of context (just like the islamist fanatics do!) and ignores other verses/hadiths to suit his agenda.  I am not saying Islam is a religion of peace. I just think we have to be honest about what we think the teachings of Islam are. parrot

    "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." -- Bertrand Russell

    Baloney Detection Kit
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #24 - April 14, 2012, 01:43 AM

    Os - sometimes ignorance is bliss.   Afro

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #25 - April 14, 2012, 01:47 AM

    I should post a picture of my balls so Cheetah can have an informed opinion. parrot


    You're balls aren't big enough for you to post a picture of 'em.
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #26 - April 14, 2012, 01:50 AM

    Electron microscopes are awesome things. Tongue

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #27 - April 14, 2012, 03:09 AM

    Spencer is a passive aggressive paranoid little man

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #28 - April 14, 2012, 06:06 AM

    A knowledgable scholar on Islam, also a hard right gasbag who hangs out with neo nazis and far right extremists. Also, a huge race baiter.

    But, sadly its important to have pluralism, and to have people like this to show us how not to do things, I certainly would never want anyone shot.

    "Nobody who lived through the '50s thought the '60s could've existed. So there's always hope."-Tuli Kupferberg

    What apple stores are like.....

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  • Re: What do people here think of Robert Spencer?
     Reply #29 - April 14, 2012, 07:21 AM

    what you don't know is that spencer and wilders are oz's balls.



     Cheesy Cheesy  ^ This.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
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