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- Azdaha ExMuslim
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retrogade motion
OP - April 20, 2012, 06:47 AM

my muzzie friend shared an article on his fb profile which says "NASA CONFIRMS sun can rise from west" .....its total bullshit and it made retrogade motion of mars as reference..... i posted the following (with the help of internet) about retrogade motion

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Retrogade motion in planets do not exists because of laws of motion...its just an optical illusion ....following is the description of retrogade motion in planet

The most commonly discussed "retrograde" motion is the apparent backward motion of a planet caused by its being lapped by another planet, or vice-versa. Both planets move in a direct (eastward) motion around the Sun, but the planet with the inside (smaller) orbit moves faster than the planet on the outside (larger) orbit, and when it passes the slower-moving planet, each sees the other one as apparently moving backwards relative to its usual motion around the sky. In this "retrograde" motion, neither planet is actually moving backwards; it only appears that way, during the time that one laps the other.

Is this correct

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Re: retrogade motion
Reply #1 - April 20, 2012, 01:59 PM

yes

Mars has a retrograde loop every two years. it is nothing special. it has not changed direction. it simply appears that way from our position on earth.

The scientists at NASA are some of the most educated and dedicated people on earth. It really pisses me off when people lie about what they say, so as to make them appear to be morons.

Ask your friend to give you a direct quote from NASA supporting this claim. That is all you need to do. You dont need to explain, or refute anything. They wont find such a quote and the argument falls at the first hurdle.
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Re: retrogade motion
Reply #2 - April 20, 2012, 04:45 PM

Good stuff, and if you want to have more fun you can show him / her this hadith which says Allah will command the sun (clearly not commanding the earth how to spin) to move to "its" place of rising and "your" place of setting (even in Arabic)! Not just a figure of speech here!

It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) one day said: Do you know where the sun goes? They replied: Allah and His Apostle know best. He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Verily it (the sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it falls prostrate and remains there until it is asked: Rise up and go to the place whence you came, and it goes back and continues emerging out from its rising place and then glides till it reaches its place of rest under the Throne and falls prostrate and remains in that state until it is asked: Rise up and return to the place whence you came, and it returns and emerges out from it rising place and the it glides (in such a normal way) that the people do not discern anything ( unusual in it) till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it would be said to it: Rise up and emerge out from the place of your setting, and it will rise from the place of its setting. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said. Do you know when it would happen? It would happen at the time when faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from the faith.

http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/001-smt.php#001.0297

http://hadith.al-islam.com/Page.aspx?pageid=192&TOCID=81&BookID=25&PID=299

http://quranspotlight.wordpress.com/
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Re: retrogade motion
Reply #3 - April 20, 2012, 05:17 PM

i would also like to know how they fit it in with 36:40 "It is not for the sun to overtake the moon"
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Re: retrogade motion
Reply #4 - April 20, 2012, 05:43 PM

If the sun ever rises in the west, we'd have bigger problems than worrying about which religion got things right.

Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
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Re: retrogade motion
Reply #5 - April 20, 2012, 06:12 PM

Ishina.. i would be very interested to know how many muslims
believe in the 12/21/12 mayan prophecy LMAOOOOOO

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Re: retrogade motion
Reply #6 - April 20, 2012, 07:57 PM

lols...that guy removed that post from his wall ...hahahahahahaha...... some muslims really need psychiatrist

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