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  • Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     OP - April 21, 2012, 06:49 PM

    So, it's 4.19am in this part of my world, where-ever that may be, leave it up to your imagination. I'm tired, very tired, but woke up with massive hunger cravings and to my little boy sleeping on my legs kicking into my butt every now and again. Since I run out of cigarettes yesterday and having another day after today to cope without them, my body simply cannot sleep. So I got up and here I am.

    In regards to my life living (and towards the end pretending to be) as a Muslim and with an extremist husband, getting out was a shock for me. I never really believed I could do it. I believed I was going to die trying. Believed that at any moment my new-found-freedom was going to come crashing down around my ears and me end up either dead or as a vegetable in hospital and my children end up far away suffering because my inability to protect them.

    But here I am, having dreams of flying for the first time, and living each day as it comes and slowly leaving it all behind one step at a time. My favorite parts of life now are seemingly insignificant to others, but hold so much for me, things like walking down the street with wind on my face and in my hair, the chance to get some sun on my skin, getting to read/watch/listen to dvds/tv/books/music, dancing with my children until we all fall down in exhaustion, Tim Tams, spending time with my best friend who also happens to be male (and no, nothing is going on between us), being able to open my blinds/curtains during the day with no dangerous repercussions.

    So this is my blog, which will be far from a rationale chronology of life, rather it will be an assortment of memories and thoughts and feelings all mashed up and squashed together. That's how I view my life anyway, as my life doesn't feel like a chronology of events but rather a series of events, memories, feelings, thoughts, opinions, fear, anger, relief, confusion, etc... all compressed into two days: today and yesterday.

    Be prepared to see alot of anger in my blog, hopefully I'll keep it toned down, but maybe not. I don't know, let's just see where this goes.

    Short introduction to me for those who don't know: I'm an ex-muslim, I'm a single mother of 2 children who are alive and 1 that was a miscarriage, I love Tim Tams, am an atheist (except for the moments when I read my horoscope and giggle at my apparent star-sign), want to go down the Amazon river on a house-boat before I die, and am currently a student who has taken a break from studies until the middle of the year.  
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #1 - April 21, 2012, 07:36 PM

    Possibly *triggering* for ex-smokers

    I hate it when I run out of cigarettes and want another so bad that feel like running around after people picking up their cigarette butts. Yep, it's driving me agro, and soooo hungry, have eaten so many things in the last day that my stomach is taut and looks like it has an alien baby inside. Help, help, doctor, I forgot to use "food" protection! I'm giving birth to a... wait, nevermind Har har, I know, so not funny.  Roll Eyes

    I haven't been a smoker that long neither (3 1/2 years), started when I was in a refuge, and all the other women smoked, even the staff smoked and seeing as I'd had cravings for cigarettes since I was a little kid every time I smelt a cigarette (yes, I know it's weird but it's a thing that runs in the family, for some reason both me and my brothers love the smell of cigarettes & makes us crave it) it became a thing where socially if you wanted company or to get to have a yarn, it would be when they were sitting outside for a smoke. So they'd offer me a smoke, and I'd take it and "bum puff" at first, and gradually it became a habit. To all non-smokers: this is why you don't start in the first place. Ok, so I know, you're all probably rolling your eyes at how stupid I am, yeah, ok, so I'm fucking stupid for starting in the first place, so what? I've started, so if I want to stop it's going to take hard fucking work. And I've tried, quit 4 times with the last time being my longest stretch without nicotine at 3 months. At the moment I'm not going to even try to quit, one day in the near future ok, but not right now, at the moment the timing isn't right and I know I'd fail before even giving up.

    I don't know about anyone else, but when I quit smoking, for the first couple of weeks I have "smoking" dreams, I have dreams about buying cigarettes, I have dreams about smoking them, so many dreams, and then after that, I'll occasionally get smoking dreams. It's a joke I have with my friends, as I don't get sex dreams (really, really rare for me) instead I get smoking and shopping dreams. In my opinion, whether it's sex dreams, or smoking dreams or shopping dreams, they are all full of BS, 'cause with all of them, you wake up wishing you could have what you can't/don't/won't have.  

    Ugh, can't wait until the day after tomorrow, how do I cope without screaming the world down? A friend of mine come over to visit yesterday and he even smoked in front of me, which I didn't feel like I could tell him not to, but he smoked cigarette after cigarette in front of me whilst I had no more to smoke. I wanted to cry and felt like I was drooling the whole time.

    I really gotta quit.

    Young people, lesson of the day is, don't smoke or it will bite you on the bum. Don't try it at home.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNPnbI1arSE&ob=av2e




  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #2 - April 22, 2012, 08:37 AM

    Would it help you if you took nicotine substitutes rather than going cold turkey? That way you can gradually reduce your nicotine intake until the cravings have subsided.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #3 - April 22, 2012, 09:57 AM

    Would it help you if you took nicotine substitutes rather than going cold turkey? That way you can gradually reduce your nicotine intake until the cravings have subsided.


    Lol, nope it makes it harder to quit (which I'm not trying to do at the moment) as it's a constant reminder that I'm trying to quit. Might try getting the meds from the doctor though, as from what I've heard they work pretty well compared to the nicotine substitutes. Think I will do it one day soon in the future though, I'm sick of wasting my money on cigarettes and sick of smoking them. It's a disgusting habit but incredibly hard to break.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #4 - April 22, 2012, 10:29 AM

    Glad to see you started your blog Dude Smiley and spew the anger as and when need be, you have the personality of a survivor so in the middle of all the rage and the anger there are going to be good posts where those things you think are insignificant to us, well you will share more and we will 'get it' cos there is nothing more awesome than the freedom to feel the sun and breeze on your skin and in the roots of your hair.

    We are plants are we not?  photo-synthesise us please sunshine, we are the remenants of women who have had too much freedom stripped from us to not appreciate the small freedoms as well as the big ones.  hugs

    That thing about smelling smoke as a child and craving it, did your parents smoke around you during childhood? if so that would have created an addiction within you from childhood.  I didn't know this until recently when discussing this with my drug counsellor.  (I'm addicted to weed and smokes, double whammy of addiction) I've been a smoker for 21 years now.  mysmilie_977

    Only ever quit for 3 months when I lived with my mother in law.  Ex didn't have any issues with me smoking, and even in his stricter phases we would get high together (I sense a book in my future "how to love a hypocrite" Cheesy )  but during those 3 months I had the same smoker dreams, the same desire to run behind people smelling their smoke and living off the fumes Grin

    I have an electric cigerette, have used it a couple of times and I know a lot of people who quit smoking using it, but my issues right now are not so much the nicotine than it is the weed.  An electric smoke isn't going to get me high.  Grin

    Anyway looking forward to reading more of your blog as it goes on and good luck quitting/not quitting, dealing with your cravings for the smoke.   Smiley

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #5 - April 22, 2012, 10:33 AM

    Hi there

    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on being free.
    I do not comment a lot, but I've enjoyed your posts.
    Today I celebrate 70 days of being nicotine free and I used meds to gradually quit. I was a pack a day smoker for 26 years, so it can be done, I just pray to the almighty FSM that I stay on the siratul mustaqeem and do not go back to shaytaan and his devilish cancer sticks Tongue

    I am however sure you will quit when you are ready to do so.  Afro
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #6 - April 22, 2012, 11:36 AM

    Today I feel broken. Sad and broken. For a variety of reasons with one of them being to do with a friend who's not coping too well at the moment.

    Other reasons I'm feeling sad and broken, are to do with me having an appointment with my psychologist tomorrow and dreading it. I know what she wants me to deal with in our session tomorrow, but I don't want to deal with it, I'm scared, terrified, sad, angry, confused. I don't feel ready yet.

    Also, 'cause I think my coming on here has signalled a new era for me, a time of growth and change and grieving for all those years lost, all the years of living like a shadow struggling to survive, all those years filled with so much adrenaline and dissociation, every day a matter of survival not living. And today I am looking back at all those years and feel like I finally get to grieve. Finally get to stand up and feel angry for once instead of sucking it all back in and pretending it was all ok.

    In fact, I feel I have been grieving a lot in the last couple of months. Grieving for family members that I didn't get the chance to grieve for before, as it was my job to be strong, to hold everything together, to be the rock whilst the world fell apart on every level around me. I didn't have the time or the chance to cry, it was rare that I got to cry, instead I became numb to everything and stood strong in the face of immense pain and anguish. Grieving for the fact that my every hope of having my family love and care for me is gone, it never really was a family, not in the normal sense, it was a place of pain and fear and terror, and the hope I've carried with me all these years that somehow it might suddenly become ok is gone. The threats made said it all, and now I walk away, no more trying, no more begging and pleading, no more. My family is my children now, we are family, and I try to make our life one of love and peace and safety, joy and sanctuary. Grieving for so many things that got lost in the tide of suffering, grieving for that which was considered nothing yet was everything. Grieving.

    I think the world and society at large disapprove of sadness, of grief, of those who express their pain. Are we meant to just suck it all up and pretend to be jolly? I've spent my whole life slapping on the happy face, laughing when extremely angry or sad, smiling at all times. People seem to like that. Happy-people is who we're meant to be. Never angry, never sad, never upset, never talking about pain or sorrow or those things that hurt so deep that one becomes scarred for life. A child cries and people tell the child to suck it up, to stop being a "baby", to shut the fuck up, to stop being a girl or that they are gay for it. A teenager cries and people say it's just a phase, their pain isn't real, they just don't appreciate their parents enough, hey, it's just another sign of the selfish generation. An adult cries and everyone turns away, it's embarrassing, get a hold of yourself, you're supposed to be strong, you're not allowed to feel you're a mother, you're not allowed to cry, think of those worse off. An elderly person cries and everyone sighs, dementia, dramatic, eccentric, oh good they'll be gone soon.

    For those of us from strict religious back-grounds like I was, you may have been told to pray, to forgive (in other words gloss over & accept the other persons bad-behavior), to suck up all "negative" feelings such as anger, or sadness, or fear etc... You may have been told like I was, to do nothing to change the situation but rather to submit and obey those who hurt you, like I was with my father and ex-husband, that to do otherwise would put your chance to enter into heaven at jeopardy. Told that your feelings are invalid and wrong and don't exist and are all evidence of doubt and lack of complete obedience to Allah or God or whatever you may refer to as. To think of those worse off than you (and hence ignoring your pain because it's a whole thing of well my pain/sadness/situation isn't bad enough to seek help or to feel or to cry or to be protected). To have sabr (patience) no matter how close you are to the breaking point.

    Depressed people are told "just snap out of it", people who struggle with nightmares of past traumatic events are told that it must be something they're eating or that they must be doing something wrong. People are criticized and given a societal slap for expressing how they really feel. If it was a broken leg, most normal people would understand the pain, but because it's emotional it's "invisible", it's "negligible", it's "insignificant".

    I grew up being taught that pain was something to be ignored. If you wanted to cry you better wipe it off your face, 'cause otherwise you're going to be backhanded or ridiculed. If you break a bone, don't you dare complain, 'cause you're making a big deal out of nothing. If you face trauma that hurts you in so many ways that you can't count or even begin to understand, there is no one you can talk to, you gotta pretend you're fine, that it doesn't hurt, pretend that it doesn't even exist, pretend happy-family.

    So you hold the pain in and hold it in, hold in all the emotions associated with it and it turns into self-hatred.

    Grief was something I wasn't able to do. Suck it up loser, I'd say, until my insides were screaming with trauma upon trauma, boiling and eating away, the secrets all messed up and tangled inside with no outlet except to turn it inwards, on oneself, an angry boiling mess of pain with the message, "I hate myself". Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry.

    And here I am grieving. It's a relief to finally grieve.

    I still don't know how I got to be here today, how I survived and crawled and struggled each step to safety. It feels good to finally have a chance to grieve. Those days are gone, yet the wounds are still there, that child is still there, as is that teenager and adult, and for what they lost, I will cry, for if I don't cry no one will. I'm angry and I'm sad, but I don't feel bad for it any more, well maybe a little bit, but it's part of the process, this is my journey. I don't have to suck it up any more, and I won't, I spent too many years sucking it all up and pretending I was fine when I wasn't. Today is the day to grieve, and let go, pain by pain and trauma by trauma, and I will do it in my own time, when I'm ready, not when the world demands it so, my pain is valid, just as much as anyone elses, and if it hurts, don't expect me to no longer feel, 'cause it fucking hurts and the world can go get fucked if it expects me to suck it all up again.

    Hell no!



  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #7 - April 22, 2012, 11:56 AM

    Glad to see you started your blog Dude Smiley and spew the anger as and when need be, you have the personality of a survivor so in the middle of all the rage and the anger there are going to be good posts where those things you think are insignificant to us, well you will share more and we will 'get it' cos there is nothing more awesome than the freedom to feel the sun and breeze on your skin and in the roots of your hair.

    We are plants are we not?  photo-synthesise us please sunshine, we are the remenants of women who have had too much freedom stripped from us to not appreciate the small freedoms as well as the big ones.  hugs


    So true! Thanks for reading, I know my posts are long, but it's nice to see you reading them despite their length.  hugs back

    Quote
    That thing about smelling smoke as a child and craving it, did your parents smoke around you during childhood? if so that would have created an addiction within you from childhood.  I didn't know this until recently when discussing this with my drug counsellor.  (I'm addicted to weed and smokes, double whammy of addiction) I've been a smoker for 21 years now.  mysmilie_977

    Only ever quit for 3 months when I lived with my mother in law.  Ex didn't have any issues with me smoking, and even in his stricter phases we would get high together (I sense a book in my future "how to love a hypocrite" Cheesy )  but during those 3 months I had the same smoker dreams, the same desire to run behind people smelling their smoke and living off the fumes Grin

    I have an electric cigerette, have used it a couple of times and I know a lot of people who quit smoking using it, but my issues right now are not so much the nicotine than it is the weed.  An electric smoke isn't going to get me high.  Grin

    Anyway looking forward to reading more of your blog as it goes on and good luck quitting/not quitting, dealing with your cravings for the smoke.   Smiley


    Wow, double whammy indeed! And 21 years, wow, sheesh that is hard, sounds like you doing well though, it's so difficult quitting any form of drug, but weed is apparently pretty addictive from what I've heard, let alone quitting both weed & cigarettes at the same time. hugs

    I tried the electric cigarette thing as one of the problems for me is the whole hand to mouth action is part of the psychological addiction thing.

    That theory regarding parents smoking around their children 'causing them to grow up craving it sounds right. Thanks for that input!  Afro

    Hi there

    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on being free.
    I do not comment a lot, but I've enjoyed your posts.
    Today I celebrate 70 days of being nicotine free and I used meds to gradually quit. I was a pack a day smoker for 26 years, so it can be done, I just pray to the almighty FSM that I stay on the siratul mustaqeem and do not go back to shaytaan and his devilish cancer sticks Tongue

    I am however sure you will quit when you are ready to do so.  Afro


    Aww, thanks for dropping by Dr Zhivago, it's nice to make your acquaintance  grin12, yeah, I read your quitting-smoking journey on your thread regarding your quitting smoking, well done! 70 days is really good! Glad the FSM is helping you keep away from them.  Wink You never know, one day I might be up there with you in seeking FSM's help in this matter.   dance

    And yeah, I'm a pack a day smoker at the moment (well except for today and yesterday 'cause I run out). It's so expensive, so I roll my own, but what a waste of money and time and health. Ugh.  Roll Eyes
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #8 - April 22, 2012, 04:30 PM

    Today I feel broken. Sad and broken. For a variety of reasons with one of them being to do with a friend who's not coping too well at the moment.

    A friend of mine is seriously considering killing himself and all the signs are there that he might do it too. I feel so helpless as it's like watching a horror-scene from real life and not being able to make a difference. I'm trying, I've been trying for a long time to reach out to him, but nothing I say or do seems to help. He's fed up with everything and although he's able to tell me how he's feeling, he refuses to see someone professionally as he's been there & done that and is convinced they can't help him. I don't judge people who do it or try to do it as have been there myself, I just wish I could take his pain away and help him see that there is light at the end of this tunnel, I know how tiring it gets, I really do, but there is hope, always hope.

    This is for you J and for anyone else struggling at the moment:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pudOFG5X6uA 


    I'm sorry to hear that about your friend, especially considering you have been there meaning I guess it's potentially quite triggering for you and your own fight to stay strong.  hugs

    I don't think we ever have the oratory skills to make someone suddenly able to see the world in a different way than they did up to that point.  I think Os always says it best, you can't rationalise someone out of a position they never rationalised themselves into in the first place.  Doesn't mean we don't try so I hope for your sake and his that the small ways you have tried to help so far, bear some fruit so that he can keep going and so can you.

    Quote


    Other reasons I'm feeling sad and broken, are to do with me having an appointment with my psychologist tomorrow and dreading it. I know what she wants me to deal with in our session tomorrow, but I don't want to deal with it, I'm scared, terrified, sad, angry, confused. I don't feel ready yet.


    Therapy is hard, for sure.  Having to dredge up old wounds, especially in light of the stuff you then go on to say, about being conditioned to keep shtum about your darker feelings.   far away hug

    Quote
    I think the world and society at large disapprove of sadness, of grief, of those who express their pain. Are we meant to just suck it all up and pretend to be jolly? I've spent my whole life slapping on the happy face, laughing when extremely angry or sad, smiling at all times. People seem to like that. Happy-people is who we're meant to be. Never angry, never sad, never upset, never talking about pain or sorrow or those things that hurt so deep that one becomes scarred for life. A child cries and people tell the child to suck it up, to stop being a "baby", to shut the fuck up, to stop being a girl or that they are gay for it. A teenager cries and people say it's just a phase, their pain isn't real, they just don't appreciate their parents enough, hey, it's just another sign of the selfish generation. An adult cries and everyone turns away, it's embarrassing, get a hold of yourself, you're supposed to be strong, you're not allowed to feel you're a mother, you're not allowed to cry, think of those worse off. An elderly person cries and everyone sighs, dementia, dramatic, eccentric, oh good they'll be gone soon.

    For those of us from strict religious back-grounds like I was, you may have been told to pray, to forgive (in other words gloss over & accept the other persons bad-behavior), to suck up all "negative" feelings such as anger, or sadness, or fear etc... You may have been told like I was, to do nothing to change the situation but rather to submit and obey those who hurt you, like I was with my father and ex-husband, that to do otherwise would put your chance to enter into heaven at jeopardy. Told that your feelings are invalid and wrong and don't exist and are all evidence of doubt and lack of complete obedience to Allah or God or whatever you may refer to as. To think of those worse off than you (and hence ignoring your pain because it's a whole thing of well my pain/sadness/situation isn't bad enough to seek help or to feel or to cry or to be protected). To have sabr (patience) no matter how close you are to the breaking point.

    Depressed people are told "just snap out of it", people who struggle with nightmares of past traumatic events are told that it must be something they're eating or that they must be doing something wrong. People are criticized and given a societal slap for expressing how they really feel. If it was a broken leg, most normal people would understand the pain, but because it's emotional it's "invisible", it's "negligible", it's "insignificant".

    I grew up being taught that pain was something to be ignored. If you wanted to cry you better wipe it off your face, 'cause otherwise you're going to be backhanded or ridiculed. If you break a bone, don't you dare complain, 'cause you're making a big deal out of nothing. If you face trauma that hurts you in so many ways that you can't count or even begin to understand, there is no one you can talk to, you gotta pretend you're fine, that it doesn't hurt, pretend that it doesn't even exist, pretend happy-family.

    So you hold the pain in and hold it in, hold in all the emotions associated with it and it turns into self-hatred.

    Grief was something I wasn't able to do. Suck it up loser, I'd say, until my insides were screaming with trauma upon trauma, boiling and eating away, the secrets all messed up and tangled inside with no outlet except to turn it inwards, on oneself, an angry boiling mess of pain with the message, "I hate myself". Don't cry, don't cry, don't cry.

    And here I am grieving. It's a relief to finally grieve.

    I still don't know how I got to be here today, how I survived and crawled and struggled each step to safety. It feels good to finally have a chance to grieve. Those days are gone, yet the wounds are still there, that child is still there, as is that teenager and adult, and for what they lost, I will cry, for if I don't cry no one will. I'm angry and I'm sad, but I don't feel bad for it any more, well maybe a little bit, but it's part of the process, this is my journey. I don't have to suck it up any more, and I won't, I spent too many years sucking it all up and pretending I was fine when I wasn't. Today is the day to grieve, and let go, pain by pain and trauma by trauma, and I will do it in my own time, when I'm ready, not when the world demands it so, my pain is valid, just as much as anyone elses, and if it hurts, don't expect me to no longer feel, 'cause it fucking hurts and the world can go get fucked if it expects me to suck it all up again.

    Hell no!






    Couldn't agree more.  In islam you are not even allowed to talk about a bad dream, even though a bad dream can be quite mentally damaging, especially if the dreams and repetitive.  This always frustrated me about Islam.  The fact that not only could I not bring up a bad dream, but neither could I talk about my past.  I had to keep it in, keep it buried where it wasn't bad to examine it sometimes, when I was alone. 

    I always thought that whole catholic thing about confession being good for the soul was far better.  I used to even find myself feeling an urge to just go into a church for confession.  To believe I have been forgiven. For what I am not sure, but to know, to offload.  Or in the modern day, the secular world, we have talking therapy.  Humanistic psychology that focuses on total acceptance and non judgement from your therapist........no doubt its good for the 'soul'.  Islam gets it wrong, talking is known to help.

    A problem aired is a problem shared, and when it's shared its not so bad.

    And yes, unhappiness is frowned upon.  To be sucessful you can not wallow, you can not express how you feel.  Introverted emo loners are judged harshly.

    If you know anything about MBTI, I love how it has helped me to understand this ^^ phenomena.  Most of the world is made up of the 2pull your socks up types", and in the SJ's of the world.  The ones most likely to expect you to snap the fuck out of it.  On the other hand my personality type, the writer of depressing poetry and fantasy books, the loner artists who generally feel sadness anyway and experience it in ways other don't, well my type makes up the rarer types in the world.

    No wonder I sit back sometimes totally annoyed and baffled by the pull your socks up types.  If only things could be so simple and tough love worked on everyone hey.  But it doesn't.

    So no, not all of us can bounce and dance through life without being affected by the things that we see and experience. 

    Hello no.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #9 - April 24, 2012, 04:19 AM

    Today I've had triggers that remind me of life back with my X, I get triggers (and flashbacks) all the time, but today's ones were interesting in that I got flashbacks but I just went with the flow like my psychologist told me to instead of trying to avoid them. It's hard to not try to avoid the triggers, I normally do my best to keep all triggers out of my life, like avoiding places or people or objects or smells or food etc... that trigger me as far away as possible, but I'm trying to follow my psychologist's advice to see if they will have less of a hold over me.

    1st Trigger: A chest of drawers at my friend's house.

    This chest of drawers is the exact same one (as in type/make/model) as the one my X had in the bedroom in the apartment we lived in, and I have seen them for sale in a shop local to where I live at the moment and every time I've walked past that shop I've refused to look in the window as it reminds me of the traumas I suffered in that bedroom. So today saw the chest of drawers in my friend's place and suddenly the flashbacks came on, being in that room, opening the drawers, the disgusting lingerie in it that he made me wear for his satisfaction, remembering hiding something in the bottom of it under my underwear and my X opening it and searching it and going mad at me for it, remembering the rapes in that room, the sorrow, the sleeping all curled up and my babies sleeping next to me, the pink-sheet curtain constantly closed, the claustrophic-ness of that room, so small yet containing a double bed and two cots and a wardrobe and that chest of drawers, being constantly scared, going to sleep next to my X whilst he had the large kitchen knife under his pillow 'cause he was certain that ASIO was going to raid us when all the raids were going on at the time around the area, me having to sleep in hijab and abaya because he was convinced that ASIO was going to raid us soon and he didn't want my 'awrah uncovered when that happens. Then the flashbacks went away and I was like, Oh, I feel awful, but I'm ok, I coped. I still hated seeing that chest of drawers in my friend's house, but I coped.

    2nd Trigger: Tim Tams at local grocery store.

    Normally Tim Tams don't trigger me, but today they did, I was going to buy Tim Tams as I love them, and whilst I was taking them down from the shelf to put in my basket, I had a flashback to when I was with my X, I was at one of the shabab's house in the women's section of the house eating a Tim Tam and my X called out, "Yallah *my name*," so I quickly adjusted my niqab and grabbed the kids and went out with the Tim Tam that I hadn't finished and said my salaams to the women who were still socializing, went out to my X and he saw that I was holding the Tim Tam in my gloved hand and slapped it out of my hand, screaming at me in front of the men who were still sitting in the men's section about how evil Tim Tams are, how they are haram because they have alcohol in them (which they do, just a small percentage that is cooked out of them), that was the end of me being able to eat Tim Tams wasn't it  Cry, I was embarrased at his outburst in front of the men and quickly walked out to the car and got in the back like I always had to do (wasn't allowed to sit in the front passenger seat as he said that men would see me more easily in the front than at the back so I had to sit in the back with the kids). Well, today with that flashback I was taken aback and was like, so what do I do, buy it or not, and I thought fuck it, going to buy it and fuck him, I love Tim Tams and not going to let him take away my enjoyment of them.

    3rd Trigger: Taxi driver talking about his fat wife.

    So got in taxi to come home with my groceries, and this taxi driver who just happens to be sikh (and no I haven't got a problem with sikhs), started talking about his fat wife, about how his wife is getting fatter and fatter and fatter, and all of a sudden flashback comes on where my X was berating me for being so fat, that I looked like an elephant, that I was ugly and disgusting (mean-whilst at the time I was anorexic and very underweight). So whilst riding in the taxi and this taxi driver going on and on about his "fat" wife, I put my head in my hands as I wanted to cry and bop the taxi driver over the head at the same time, but got through it and got home dissociated (went from flashback to dissociation in the matter of minutes). But I coped.

    Had another trigger that I can't remember with flashbacks that I can't remember right now. But the thing of it is that I coped, and I even came out the other end of it with delicious Tim Tams to eat! Yum.  dance

    I don't know how I'm going to keep it up with just going with the flow in regards to the triggers, but I trust my psychologist and she reckons that going with the flow of the flashbacks instead of avoiding them and the triggers will help bring down the anxiety. Crossing fingers that it works.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #10 - April 24, 2012, 08:43 AM

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    Couldn't agree more.  In islam you are not even allowed to talk about a bad dream, even though a bad dream can be quite mentally damaging, especially if the dreams and repetitive.  This always frustrated me about Islam.  The fact that not only could I not bring up a bad dream, but neither could I talk about my past.  I had to keep it in, keep it buried where it wasn't bad to examine it sometimes, when I was alone.  


    I know, I used to hate the advice to seek refuge with Allah and spit three times, that that would somehow make it all better, which it never did. Such ridiculous advice from Mo.  no

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    I always thought that whole catholic thing about confession being good for the soul was far better.  I used to even find myself feeling an urge to just go into a church for confession.  To believe I have been forgiven. For what I am not sure, but to know, to offload.  Or in the modern day, the secular world, we have talking therapy.  Humanistic psychology that focuses on total acceptance and non judgement from your therapist........no doubt its good for the 'soul'.  Islam gets it wrong, talking is known to help.


    So true. I still sometimes find myself praying in the middle of the night (not Islamic nor to allah, just a talking to the sky sort), though when I do it now do it to "who-ever is up there" which I don't believe in anyway, but sometimes I do it, and it makes me feel better, so I guess it's a probably a cathartic thing, for me anyway. Talking is really good, in fact any expression that gets it off one's chest is good, hence why I probably feel compelled so often to write and paint.

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    If you know anything about MBTI, I love how it has helped me to understand this ^^ phenomena.  Most of the world is made up of the 2pull your socks up types", and in the SJ's of the world.  The ones most likely to expect you to snap the fuck out of it.  On the other hand my personality type, the writer of depressing poetry and fantasy books, the loner artists who generally feel sadness anyway and experience it in ways other don't, well my type makes up the rarer types in the world.


    No, have never heard of MBTI, will have to google it, sounds interesting.

    Thanks for the support Berbs, you are a wonderful person and I don't think you realize how comforting your words are to many of us on this site, well I speak for myself, how comforting I find them, I love reading your comments to others, it is awesome!
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #11 - April 27, 2012, 08:06 AM

    Soooo fucking pissed off right now.  finmad

    I fucking hate it when I see a clip on you-tube and recognize certain persons (male and female) from before I escaped the X, persons who threatened mine and my children's safety and tried to make me go back to my X or else, persons who made threats, persons who claimed to be your friend but would gleefully pass on information at the drop of a hat that would get us killed or would fucking organize it, persons who fucking claim that females would be so much better off under the khalifah, fucking hate them, hate them sooo fucking much.

    Can't believe I was every fucking nice to you fucking wankers, can't believe I cooked for you or fed you fucking nice meals that I spent hours cooking, should've shat in the food.  Cheesy

    Can't believe I fucking hand-sewed abayahs for you fuckers, or looked after your children, or taught your children tajweed, or ever fucking smiled at you fucking fuckwits, or cared about your fucking well-being when you were being fucking abused. And you know what, I can't believe that the second time I left when I got that first fucking warning, can't believe I fucking listened and went back, fucking hell, should'a fucking talked way back then but you fuckers had me scared shitless with the threats both implicit and implied. You telling me that I had a week to come back to him or there would be serious consequences. Fuck you Abu Crap. Fuck you!

    You fuckers treated me like shit back when I was there, yeah ya sheikh al-kakah  Crap, you fucking promised me he wouldn't hit me again, promised that if I went back that you would make sure that he treated me right and that if he didn't that I could come stay with you and your family with my kids, but when I came to talk to you after he started with the fucking shit again you told me to put up with it and to have sabr because my problems weren't as bad as many you fucking dealt with, saying my situation wasn't as bad as that of a family who'd come to you for help because their daughter was a lesbian, like WTF does homosexuality have to do with my X bashing the shit out of me and raping me and torturing me? What's the correlation? That I have no right to complain, no right to say anything about it, that I was his wife and had no rights, that he is a great muslim man and I should just fucking live with whatever he wants to dish out to me, that I am a bad wife for talking about it full stop and for asking for help and that I should make more dua to make me a better wife so that he wouldn't need to hit me any more. Fucking great sheikh and brother you were. Fuck you Abu  Crap. Fuck you.

    Didn't even mean to go onto the you-tube clip, just was on another you-tube clip and clicked on a vid on the side and there it fucking was. Fucking hell, fucking wankers. Can't believe the PR BS that comes out of their fucking mouths, would shock the Australian public if they knew what you guys talk about behind closed doors.

    So fucking mad right bout now. Fucking hell you motherfuckers.  finmad finmad finmad

    So, listening to my angry-music-medication now...  Wink always makes me feel better.  grin12

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xnpQOCnTDs

  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #12 - April 27, 2012, 08:42 AM

    Rant continued:

    My darling daughter saw a beared man at school today from a distance and got scared and ran to her teacher as she was terrified that it was "Baba", poor kid, the teacher found out who it was and assured her that it wasn't "Baba". When I found out from the teacher, I was so sad, I'd hoped that her memories were fading, but she still associates all bearded men with "Baba". I told her that I was sooo proud of her that she'd told her teacher her fears and that I was glad that she hadn't kept it to herself. I try to reassure her that "Baba" won't find us again, but I find it hard to do it convincingly, and she is a clever girl and seems to be able to pick up when I'm uncertain on something.

    The shit continues. So fucking mad.

    My daughter is terrified of bearded men. All bearded men. She's phobic of scarves, once a couple of years ago when she was in class they brought out some scarves to play with and she started screaming and wouldn't stop until I came to pick her up. She hates arabic and within days of us leaving the X she would get mad at me when I spoke to her in it, I still find it hard not to speak in arabic to the kids as I think in it much of the time, but she hates it and gets angry when I say something in Arabic.

    I remember my daughter's reaction the first time I left the refuge without the hijab and niqab etc... on, she looked at me with eyes wide open, "Mummy, Baba will be angry, you need hijab mummy, Baba will hurt you." My son who was just a baby looked at me like he didn't recognize me or something, which was strange for me because I didn't think he would've have correlated going out with covering up, but he did, he looked at me with puzzelment. I remember when they were both babies before they could talk, as soon as I put on the niqab they would get excited, going out time!

    Fortunately my son remembers nothing (and so has no reaction to bearded men except curiousity) as he was just a bub at the time, but with my daughter, wish I could take away her fear and the memories.  Cry

    Fucking wanker. Fucking hell. I hate all of this shit.

     rant
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #13 - April 27, 2012, 07:09 PM

    Today I've had triggers that remind me of life back with my X, I get triggers (and flashbacks) all the time, but today's ones were interesting in that I got flashbacks but I just went with the flow like my psychologist told me to instead of trying to avoid them. It's hard to not try to avoid the triggers, I normally do my best to keep all triggers out of my life, like avoiding places or people or objects or smells or food etc... that trigger me as far away as possible, but I'm trying to follow my psychologist's advice to see if they will have less of a hold over me.

    These stories are so heartbreaking and infuriating. They really tell the naked truth about the evil that is buried in Islam. I admire you for your determination and dealing with your triggers. I don't know what else to say except far away hug

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself
    - 32nd United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #14 - April 29, 2012, 04:27 AM

    These stories are so heartbreaking and infuriating. They really tell the naked truth about the evil that is buried in Islam. I admire you for your determination and dealing with your triggers. I don't know what else to say except far away hug


    Thanks Luthiel  Smiley hugs back  Afro
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #15 - April 29, 2012, 04:42 AM

    snip snip

    I can't just move on, it takes time and processing and it takes time to deal with shit. It's not a magical thing, it's painful, it's hard work and it won't go away by me just burying it.

    People don't get PTSD, they think you're an idiot if you get flashbacks or nightmares, that you're weak somehow for it. Fuck it.

     banghead banghead banghead
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #16 - April 29, 2012, 06:38 AM

    This is one of the reasons why I like to be by myself. Friends almost always dissapoint you.


    But hang in there, as for your past, it takes time and although you wont forget the past it does get easier to cope with.  far away hug

    井の中の蛙大海を知らず。
    (I no naka no kawazu taikai wo shirazu)
    A frog in a well does not know the great sea.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #17 - April 30, 2012, 01:48 AM

    Yeah Nessa, it sucks.   far away hug

    Well today I slipped on some ice and did some damage to my arm, went to the doctors and waited 2 hours. Only nerve damage thankfully.

    Then the school called to tell me that my son has lice. So one of the mums is dropping him off soon.

  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #18 - May 03, 2012, 08:41 AM

    One of my greatest joys in life (apart from my children of course) is music and dance.

    I love to dance, primitive style, dancing my guts out with gusto and joy, experiencing every emotion that comes over me whether happiness, or joy, or anger, or fury, or excitement, or peace, or whatever.

    I have music for every mood. I will go for weeks listening to a particular album or song, then change it up, some nights I will sing my guts out to a song and then other nights it will be album after album.

    When I first moved into the house I'm in now, my neighbour one day commented when he came to visit me and noticed that I was clapping to a song, he told me that when he'd first moved into his property that he'd thought I must practice witchcraft 'cause he would sometimes hear me clap three times in succession repeatedly over the course of a period of time. I laughed so hard when he told me that.

    One of the things that I regret and I don't say this lightly, but one of the things that I regret I missed during my childhood and during my marriage was that I didn't get to listen to music other than the religious non-instrumental kind, except with the exception of the odd wedding where arabic music was played 'cause less strict relatives of who-ever was getting married would demand it. Even at my own Walima I missed out on having music played. I missed out on so much, yet I have memories of when I was a young girl singing my guts out making up songs of my own, music sung to an invisible being up in the sky who back then I loved and feared. I missed out on so much. It is one of my regrets, 'cause if I'd been brave enough to walk out and talk, I would have experienced music at a much younger age.

    Of course I did know what music was like as a child and even after I got married, 'cause whenever going into shopping centres you hear music played and cars driving by playing music. I knew it was haram, but it didn't stop me from liking music, in fact it was one aspect of Islam that I really disagreed with and struggled with on an emotional level because although I'd been conditioned to believe music to be haram mentally I couldn't understand how such a beautiful thing could be forbidden. I struggled with not bopping up and down to music in the shops when I'd get to go out and when I did bop to the music in the stores I'd get chastised for it, "Haram!".

    In fact I remember one time when I was covered up (niqab etc...) and about to go to the masjid and my X was like, "I just made wudhu (meaning don't you dare touch me)" which was crazy 'cause I had gloves on so if I'd accidentally bumped into him I couldn't see how it could possibly break his wudhu, but it was something that was a big issue for him and he'd hit me many times for accidentally bumping into him. Anyways on this occasion when he'd said that, I had the song with the lyrics "Can't touch me," go through my head, so I started singing whilst doing the rap movements, "Can't touch me! Du du du, Can't touch me!" whilst completely covered in black from head to toe and it made him burst into laughter. Lol it was funny, 'cause I realized I shouldn't have done that, but it had made him laugh so made me happy. It's one memory from my marriage to him that makes me smile to this day as it was a happy moment for me, and I had few of those when with him.

    Tonight I am listening (and dancing) to the Lungs album of Florence and the Machine. Her music is haunting and soul-soaring to say the least. To her music I feel like I am flying and like all the pain comes out and I can just be.

    So I will leave this post with one of my favourite songs from her Lungs album, enjoy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nxO-yPQesA

  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #19 - May 04, 2012, 01:49 AM

    Gawd kill me now!

    The kids have been fighting non-stop all day about everything and making messes  in long trails all around the house. Yes both of them are home today (not at school). I want to pull out my hair. I am tired and feel like crap, and an acquaintance just rang me to say that she would be dropping round straight away (which really means sometime in the next couple of hours). Fuck I'm in a bad mood.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #20 - May 04, 2012, 02:37 AM

    Ok, so this aquaintance dropped by really quick and left just as quick only to say at the door as she was leaving, "I'm praying for you, Heavenly Father loves you, you know that right?" and I was just like hmmmm  ohmy Zipit  015 Snap out of it

    I wanted to say,"Heavenly Father above help me not jump down this woman's throat for telling me she's praying to you for me, 'cause hell, I don't believe in you and I'm sick of this BS, 'specially today of all days."

    But instead, I just nodded to her and waited for her to leave. She is mormon, and she's a nice person, but honestly, the religious talks she will sneak into every conversation drives me balmy. Today of all days I do not want any prayers said over me, I don't want anyone telling me that they are praying for me, I don't want any religious lectures, I don't want someone mooning or crooning over me because I'm not religious, I don't want to hear any of the BS, seriously, it drives me insane and makes me want to take any and all holy books and shove it back down peoples throats!  Cry

    Ok, so back ground to some of why I am so cranky today towards religious diatribe: yesterday at lunch time I had these mormon missionaries come around and ask if they could come inside for a little while to share the gospel with me, "No thanks," I said, "I'm busy at the moment", so they went away after trying to lay on the guilt (which didn't work). Every couple of days they come by. It's either them or missionaries from some other faith. It's driving me bonkers. Really. I told a couple of missionaries who came to my door about a month or so ago that I am a Satanist and that I was right in the middle of neked-ritual dedicated to Satan, and that they could come in if they wanted to as I had just made some hash-cookies just for them, as I can see-the-future and knew they were coming, at which the missionaries just looked at each other and pissed off as fast as they could.

    I'm so fucking sick of them. Maybe I have issues cause I hate religious stuff being directed at me, but I don't shove my atheistic beliefs down anyone's throat, in fact I don't go around advertising it, but I don't appreciate being the target of religious efforts. Live and let live is my motto. Leave me the fuck alone. Makes me half-tempted to scrawl in permanent marker on my door like I've seen done else-where,
    "No doors-to-doors sales-men!
    No Religious Nutjobs!
    No Jews!
    No Christians!
    No Missionaries!
    No Leaches!
    And yes, that means you too!"


    Please let today end quickly. I want to go back to bed. It's taking far too long.

     rant
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #21 - May 04, 2012, 04:13 AM

    Gawd kill me now!

    The kids have been fighting non-stop all day about everything and making messes  in long trails all around the house. Yes both of them are home today (not at school). I want to pull out my hair. I am tired and feel like crap, and an acquaintance just rang me to say that she would be dropping round straight away (which really means sometime in the next couple of hours). Fuck I'm in a bad mood.


    It's a rough day when the children are fighting. I remember when mine were small and would fight. My sisterschildren would come and wow it would really be a fight. I would make a random fight time."Now you know fighting is between  4 and 4:20 today. So you can't fight till then!" It didn't really matter the time it was just random  to later in the day. They'd usually forget what they were fighting about.  If by some chance they remembered to fight during fight time then we would all have to stop and everyone  would have to agree on the fight rules. That would usually take up all the time and the actual fight would have to be put of the next day. Never told them they couldn't fight and didn't really punish them for fighting just made the process so long they never got to fight. Seemed to work. Might be something that could work for you and yours


     Big hug Big hug Big hug



    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #22 - May 04, 2012, 06:17 AM

    Thanks Lynna for the hugs  Smiley

    That idea for making a "fight" time sounds like a good idea  grin12 I might try it out with them. At the moment they are in a better mood, both are in the bath at the moment blowing bubbles lol.

    We're having corned meat with baked beans and toast for dinner, so hopefully the day will be over soon and I can breathe. Sorry for my rants, today is just one of those days, where you want to pull out your hair and scream lol. I'm so exhausted.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #23 - May 04, 2012, 07:01 AM

    Snip snip
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #24 - May 04, 2012, 12:22 PM

    Thanks Lynna for the hugs  Smiley

    That idea for making a "fight" time sounds like a good idea  grin12 I might try it out with them. At the moment they are in a better mood, both are in the bath at the moment blowing bubbles lol.

    We're having corned meat with baked beans and toast for dinner, so hopefully the day will be over soon and I can breathe. Sorry for my rants, today is just one of those days, where you want to pull out your hair and scream lol. I'm so exhausted.


    No need to be sorry for the rants.  Most everyone has been through something at some level and has a degree of understanding of the need to express the emotions.  If that expression only be into the air or if someone  else takes the time to hear. There is some release in the expression. I like your dance accounts and your love of music. I'm sure there are joys and smiles in that for you and your children.   

    If at first you succeed...try something harder.

    Failing isn't falling down. Failing is not getting back up again.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #25 - May 05, 2012, 06:38 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92dkdlnDalQ

    What I'm listening to at the moment.  Afro

    Kind of how I feel.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #26 - May 07, 2012, 03:16 AM

    So, listening to Florence and the Machine again, this time her album Ceremonials.

    This album of hers makes me feel like I am engulfed in beauty, dew drops raining on me, like a love-bath of warm sunshine and bubbles. This is one of those albums that's exhilirating and rips away the mask, pulls away those aspects of me that I put up as a barrier to the world so I can just be.

    Sing and fly baby! Sing and fly!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir5vKDf0tVw

    Today is one of those days where the air is crisp like freshly laundered sheets, and the sky is blue for as far as one can see. It's chilly but not cold-cold.

    I walked my kids to school and had a giggle when I dropped my daughter off at her class 'cause the teacher was having a stern conversation with some of the kids there.

    The teacher: Now, there has been some disrespectful talk going on between you children, and it's something we need to talk about. What I heard was that M told L that he hates her, did you say that M?

    M pipes up: Yeah, but L told me to go get fucked!

    L pipes up: You kicked my feet M! You should get fucked!

    The teacher: Now, now, I don't want to hear any of that sort of conversation in my classroom!

    A kid at the back of the classroom shouts: But Mrs *teachers name*, M kicks everyone! He isn't very nice Mrs *teacher's name*, he's a meany!

    The teacher: I don't want to hear it, we have to be respectful in this classroom, ok? That means no swearing at other people, no kicking and no telling people you hate them!

    By that time I was walking out. I love the conversations the kids have amongst themselves and with the teacher, why I'm not volunteering there again this year I don't know, maybe I should do some more but there isn't enough time left in the year as I will be resuming studies again soon. I loved it last year as on the days I wasn't studying I'd volunteer and would read to the kids, so much fun reading to children, doing all the different voices and making exaggerated expressions on one's face to keep them all enthralled in the story.
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #27 - May 08, 2012, 02:13 AM

    Fucking Bitches.

    Rant time again. Cheesy

    snip snip

    Fucking bitches.

    Rant off.  grin12

    I'll leave you with my angry music, helps me calm down and might do anyone else there in a similar mood some good (or not).  Afro

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AUjxDgAOvw
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #28 - May 08, 2012, 02:37 AM

    Fucking hell, I can't believe they say that shit to your face. They must be seriously insecure. I know it's hard to ignore that kind of nastiness, but they really aren't worth an ounce of your energy or emotion. far away hug

    Have you thought about speaking with the school director about the abuse and discrimination your kids are getting from them?

    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself
    - 32nd United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt
  • Re: Broken Birdie Flying - Blog of this Ex-Muslim
     Reply #29 - May 08, 2012, 03:06 AM

    Yeah Luthiel, I'm ok most of the time, I let it slide, but some days I just want to scream, it's just ongoing BS. I got told I should go to the school staff and make a complaint but I don't want to make things worse with those women as I'm a scaredy cat and am too chicken about it, I dunno if it would make any difference any way. Thought about maybe changing schools but the teachers are generally pretty good and the school staff are excellant, plus the school is within walking distance which I don't really want to part with considering I don't have a car and bus fares are pricy.

    My daughter was getting beaten up last year by some of the kids, so I spoke with the teacher and staff about it, and for quite awhile they did nothing about it, and it got to the point where my daughter was too scared to come out of her classroom at lunch time, and I was at the point where I was ready to go apeshit on the kids who where doing it. At that point I ended up telling the teacher that if they wouldn't do anything about it I would be doing something, and after that those kids haven't touched her again.

    Idk, just needed to rant about it, I'll be fine once I've gotten all this shit out of my system. Maybe I will move them to a different school, Idk. 
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