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  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #270 - July 02, 2012, 08:26 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 08:11 PM
    Well I am tolerant of other faiths and I disagree with disparaging other faiths. Yes, as muslims we feel we are the ultimate truth. That is not to say that other faiths do not have their positive aspects as well. There's nothing wrong with dawah if it is done respectfully and with good intentions. After all, we want everyone to go to heaven, don't we?


    OK, I just invented a new religion, its called Islam is silly, and the Qu'ran is false. Please respect my religion, and do not attack me by saying Islam is the most logical faith, that is an insult to my religion and me.    
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #271 - July 02, 2012, 08:28 PM
    Quote from: billy on July 02, 2012, 07:42 PM
    Your best option is to accept that, and not grow resentful at having your religion treated just as every other religion is treated.


    Well put.  Afro

    If only all theists living in secular societies could see it that way.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #272 - July 02, 2012, 08:28 PM
    Quote from: King Tut on July 02, 2012, 08:26 PM
    OK, I just invented a new religion, its called Islam is silly, and the Qu'ran is false. Please respect my religion, and do not attack me by saying Islam is the most logical faith, that is an insult to my religion and me.    


    Now you are just being childish. Do I really have to respond to this?
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #273 - July 02, 2012, 08:29 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 08:28 PM
    Now you are just being childish. Do I really have to respond to this?


    You don't like your own logic? Am only using your logic.
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #274 - July 02, 2012, 08:30 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 08:22 PM
    Why are you jumping to conclusions? I didn't say non-muslims automatically go to hell. What I believe is that Islam is a powerful catalyst to make it into heaven. It's a bit like turbo/nitro in F1 Grand Prix..many will make it to the finish line, but not all will achieve the maximum prize. You're a bit snide sometimes.


    Just waking you up to how offensive some Islamic beliefs are to non Muslims, to make you understand the futility and hypocrisy of trying to get people not to say things that you find offensive.

    And the Islamic (and Christian) notion of Hell and the consignment of non believers to it is one reason why religions require rigorous criticism of their most obnoxious tenets. Because Islam really does say these things.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #275 - July 02, 2012, 08:31 PM
    He doesn't agree with Evolution which is based on mountains of evidence, he only agrees on post hoc make fit science to the Quran.

    Pathetic Cheesy
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #276 - July 02, 2012, 08:35 PM


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #277 - July 02, 2012, 08:36 PM
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #278 - July 02, 2012, 08:36 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 07:47 PM
    I disagree with distasteful remarks being made about all religions, not only Islam. Having a debate where people are having a civilised discussion and questioning each other's views is perfectly fine. Going round burning holy books is not.


    Distasteful to who? For example, if I express the opinion that the god you worship is only a figment of your imagination, is this a "distasteful remark"? If so, then I'm afraid we're not gonna get very far in a meaningful theological, cultural, or any sort of intellectual discussion for that matter.

    And no on this thread was burning holy books or posting images/vids thereof (not that there's anything wrong with doing so). I don't know where you're getting this claptrap from.  wacko
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    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #279 - July 02, 2012, 08:37 PM
    Give them enough rope and they hang themselves.
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #280 - July 02, 2012, 08:39 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 07:26 PM
    I'm sorry but i disagree with this approach.
    Well I was hoping to ascertain the root of all this negativity towards Islam. Secondly, I wanted to address it, and maybe show you all that most muslims are kind and good natured, as this is what Islam promotes. I'm not seeking to bring people back to Islam, that is outside my remit. I also wanted to make people on here see things from a muslim's perspective, and to show you that, whilst you may not know it, you can actually hurt a lot of people's feelings by some of your distasteful comments. Am I right in thinking that nobody here is intentionally trying to hurt anyone?


    Yes, many muslims are good and kind people, I have no doubt about that having grown up and lived in the muslim community for the vast majourity of my life, but what does that have to do with anything, not many come on here saying that ALL muslims are bad, or all muslims are nasty. Far from it.

    You do realize that alot of us were muslims and so know exactly what many muslim's reaction to this forum would be?



  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #281 - July 02, 2012, 08:39 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 07:59 PM
    Well I didn't want to get into a theological discussion here. That is outside the scope of this thread. The Qu'ran is not a book of science, however, the science it does contain is accurate and in some cases, miraculous. If you don't see that or refuse to believe that, then that is your choice. It's the same for me feeling that evolution as described by mainstream science is not accurate.


    I am glad that you are giving me that choice. Having been born into a Muslim family I think it will be clear to you that that choice is apostasy.  Afro
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #282 - July 02, 2012, 08:44 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 08:11 PM
    Yes, as muslims we feel we are the ultimate truth.


    What a wonderfully revealing Freudian turn of phrase.  Cheesy
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #283 - July 02, 2012, 08:46 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 07:47 PM
    Going round burning holy books is not.


    Who's burning holy books? I don't think many people here have burned the Qu'ran, other than back when they were muslim and had to burn any pieces of paper with Allah's name on it before disposing of it by burying them (as a muslim is supposed to do according to hadith and 'ulema). I certainly have never burned the Qu'ran, or any other religious scripture, or in fact any book.  Roll Eyes
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #284 - July 02, 2012, 08:47 PM
    Quote from: asbie on July 02, 2012, 08:39 PM
    I am glad that you are giving me that choice. Having been born into a Muslim family I think it will be clear to you that that choice is apostasy.  Afro


    Now you are hurting him which is a strict No! No!


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #285 - July 02, 2012, 08:48 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 08:11 PM
    After all, we want everyone to go to heaven, don't we?


    Oh, btw if it ends up being an Islamically inspired heaven as depicted in the Quran and Hadith then I'll pass. Kthx.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #286 - July 02, 2012, 08:53 PM
    Quote
    Yes, as muslims{replace this with any other group/gang/religionetc.}  we feel we are the ultimate truth.


    This the ultimate peace killer!


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #287 - July 02, 2012, 08:54 PM
    Quote from: asbie on July 02, 2012, 08:48 PM
    Oh, btw if it ends up being an Islamically inspired heaven as depicted in the Quran and Hadith then I'll pass. Kthx.


    Are you against virgin sex ? No offense!


    The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion.
                                   Thomas Paine

    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored !- Aldous Huxley
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #288 - July 02, 2012, 08:55 PM
    Quote from: billy on July 02, 2012, 08:18 PM
    You mean you believe that people will be tortured in hell simply for not following Islam? Wow, what a hateful, bigoted, sadistic belief to hold.

    See, even though that is a vile, inhuman, demonising, bigoted, loathsome belief to hold, I'll never ask for you to not say it even though it is obnoxious and hateful - you are free to hold and assert this torture minded inhumane belief - I will support your right to believe and state this vile, repulsive, disgusting belief 100% Afro

    That is secularism for you - I support your right to believe and articulate such primitive, hateful garbage, whilst simultaneously pointing out its hateful, primitive idiocy.

    Viva liberal secularism!


    Now now, he never said he actually believed in the concept of hell. For all we know, he could be one of those selective Muslims who choose to conveniently ignore the veritable mountain of verses in the Q'uran that mention it and describe it's cruel torture in detail. If so, more power to him.  Afro

    Although we'll never find out if this is indeed the case as superstrike seems to be more interested in setting preconditions for discussion and steering it towards our "hate" for Islam, than in actually conversing about these finer theological points.  Roll Eyes
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #289 - July 02, 2012, 08:57 PM
    Quote from: hypocrucifier on July 02, 2012, 08:53 PM
    This the ultimate peace killer!


    or Arrogance to its highest level.
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #290 - July 02, 2012, 08:58 PM
    Quote from: asbie on July 02, 2012, 08:48 PM
    Oh, btw if it ends up being an Islamically inspired heaven as depicted in the Quran and Hadith then I'll pass. Kthx.


    Me neither!  Afro

    I don't want to see my X again, and definitely not be married to him for all eternity in Jannah considering he won't say the words Talaq and set me free from being bound to him in the hereafter (hehehe now he can't have me 'cause I'm going to jahannam evil  Tongue ).  Vamoose

    Not to mention, I don't like the idea of being a perpetual virgin.  wacko OUCH!!!
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #291 - July 02, 2012, 09:02 PM
    Quote from: hypocrucifier on July 02, 2012, 08:54 PM
    Are you against virgin sex ? No offense!


    As wondrous as it might be like anything else, I will quickly tire of it, even in my limited mortal existence. An eternity of it though, no thanks!
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #292 - July 02, 2012, 09:14 PM
    Quote from: Da_Dude on July 02, 2012, 08:58 PM
    Me neither!  Afro

    I don't want to see my X again, and definitely not be married to him for all eternity in Jannah considering he won't say the words Talaq and set me free from being bound to him in the hereafter (hehehe now he can't have me 'cause I'm going to jahannam evil  Tongue ).  Vamoose

    Not to mention, I don't like the idea of being a perpetual virgin.  wacko OUCH!!!


    Hmm true, but as a woman you will have Allah's divine presence as a reward and also um... your chastity or something like that.

    Lol, I don't think Mo thought this thing out all that well.  Cheesy
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #293 - July 02, 2012, 09:16 PM
    I think some of you need to get a life if you think that ridiculing other people's faith is your idea of fun. It's sick.
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #294 - July 02, 2012, 09:21 PM
    ^

    If u make outrageous claims such as Scientific Miraculous facts in the quran and claims such as WE THINK WE HAVE THE TRUTH then u r making urself material for ridicule.
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #295 - July 02, 2012, 09:21 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 09:16 PM
    I think some of you need to get a life if you think that ridiculing other people's faith is your idea of fun. It's sick.


     Cheesy

    Yes my dear, I'm very, very sick.  Kiss 001_wub

    Please cure me of my disease, make me see the light, give me a life for alas I am bereft of one!

     
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #296 - July 02, 2012, 09:24 PM
    Quote from: superstrike on July 02, 2012, 07:47 PM
    Going round burning holy books is not.


    I don't see what's wrong with burning the Quran.   Huh?

  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #297 - July 02, 2012, 09:39 PM
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    disrespecting God Almighty


    Umm, gods are imaginary inventions of an evolved primate on a planet in the fag end of a galaxy.

    Now have I been disrespectful?
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #298 - July 02, 2012, 10:31 PM
    TBH, even the topic title is obnoxious.
  • Re: Hi..what's your problem?
     Reply #299 - July 03, 2012, 01:35 AM
    Quote from: asbie on July 02, 2012, 09:14 PM
    Hmm true, but as a woman you will have Allah's divine presence as a reward and also um... your chastity or something like that.

    Lol, I don't think Mo thought this thing out all that well.  Cheesy


    it's a revelation!
    never thought of it that way, thanks da_dudes, asbie

    Quote
    I think some of you need to get a life if you think that ridiculing other people's faith is your idea of fun. It's sick.


    agree, but in my case it's lacked of faith, disbelief, or maybe I believe in other entity, well there's Shari'a to prevent those,

    I no can get a life without being ridiculed, but I do live

     Cry Cry Cry
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