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  • Not sure what to do
     OP - July 21, 2012, 08:37 PM

    Hello everyone,

    I'm new here. I stumbled across this forum by accident and I can't remember for the life of me what I was looking for when I did. A little bit about myself, I'm female, 25, born in a gulf country in an arab family and a rather big one at that with lots of brothers...

    I have to say that my parents were not devout muslims. In fact, for reasons beyond me, they put me in a catholic school for all of my primary education and I was within a muslim minority there. That school, though catholic, was very particular about God and religious practices so those who were not christian were sent to islamic lessons and I have to say that was the only time I was ever taught to pray and read the Quran.

    Years later, I was out of that school. Islamic studies never really was a big part of my new school and none of my friends were muslims. My parents were not devout. In fact, I took it upon myself to read about religion and then at 16, I was at university, out of the country and I took some islamic electives, I guess to see what all the fuss was about. My father only became a devout muslim a year before he died. My brothers vary from completely not muslim to extremely devout. Those that were devout kept telling me to pray but they stopped. It's kind of a don't ask, don't tell situation.

    I'm now 25 years old, educated and fairly happy with myself but all of a sudden I find myself re-united with two members of my family. They have found out things about me such as that I don't stand up and "defend" Islam every time it's attacked (in fact, I'm often offended when Islam is attacked so harshly but I'm just as offended when any religion and any group of people is mocked for their beliefs or for being something, whether religious, sexual or racial). Even though I myself cannot identify with any religion, I respect those who do and often try to avoid arguments and confrontations that can be avoided - 'cept when I'm personally attacked or insulted. Anyway back to the matter at hand, I find myself extremely unhappy right now being around two praying, rather devout family members. I know that they know what I am, but little by little, I feel that they are forcing me to be what I am not or at least trying to force me. I don't think the silence is doing it anymore. I feel nothing short of just sitting them and stating explicitly what I am and what I'm not willing to be will do.... but I don't know how to go about doing that mainly because I don't want to hurt anyone. I know it's important to my mother who has lost so much in life but is demanding so much also. I know she's not trying to hurt me but it feels like emotional blackmail because I can't do anything about it except listen to it and keep my mouth shut for fear it would be bad on her or her health. That would be easy to do as I stated before, I'm not very confrontational, but the fact that she is getting very tiring.

    My way of living is not pleasing to her. I mean I don't do anything crazy such as go clubbing every night (or at all, actually). I don't wear outrageous clothing because it's just not me and I find overly skimpy clothing tasteless but I do wear things that would be considered unislamic (... sleeveless, above ankle, tights etc). My hair is short... and other than the whole not wearing a hijab thing, the next best thing for her would be to keep my hair long because you know, anyone with short hair is automatically considered lesbian. And on that note, my friends.... due to the nature of what I do and work as, a lot of my friends are from the gay community and I've been given endless grief about it. I have a small tattoo on my back that she has only just found out about... I have had it for 6 years now. It's nothing big.. it's just words from a poem unrelated to anything but of course that does not matter. She's compared my "freedom" to do anything I want with my body - namely- seeing that tattoo with me going around and "raping" people.... in that
    "why would you think it's okay to get that tattoo? Personal freedom? Is it your personal freedom to go around raping people? Should we not say something about that if you start doing it?"

    Like they're at all related X_X

    I'm kind of stuck in this rut now. I started living with my sister but that's because I thought she needed a place to stay while she was away and I was being kind to her. Now she's stuck to me like glue and I just found out it's because my mother wants to keep a distant eye on me. My sister is not a hijabi but she is moderately devout and shares my mother's views. I feel suffocated right now. I know she can't stop me from doing anything I want but I can't take this anymore. The feeling that someone needs to babysit me. The fact that I have to explain to them that I'm not a rapist and i'm not personally rebelling, it's not a phase and it certainly is not me trying to be like someone else. I don't know how to do that without causing extreme heartache to a very ill woman and I don't know how to live like this any more. No one has taken care of me past the age of 16... I don't know why the need to start right now.

    I'm just completely, terribly, unbelievably unhappy. And I'm extremely offended that I have to explain or justify the silliest little things. I haven't attacked anyone... I haven't said anything. I just try to defend myself against silly little accusations but in doing so, I keep being told that I'm trying to be what I'm not. Well, what am I? and why do I have to be imitating anyone else just because I choose not to be what you are? And why is it so hard to understand that at age 25, it's quite possible that you're completely grown up, not going through a phase and you know what you're doing. :/

    I'm stuck and I guess I just had to let that off my shoulders because I'm just tipping the edge.
  • Re: Not sure what to do
     Reply #1 - July 21, 2012, 11:49 PM

    I'm stuck in a similar situation with devout muslim parents forcing me to become religious so i can understand the frustration that you are going through.

    Since you are a financially independent adult I would suggest you have an honest discussion with your parents. You need to tell them firmly but calmly that you are not a muslim and should not be forced to do what you don't believe in.

    If that doesn't work then i think it would be best if you stay away from them for a while. The seperation might show them that if they want to keep their daughter they will need to respect your freedom and wishes and love you for the person you are instead of the person they want you to become.  

    Best of Luck

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Re: Not sure what to do
     Reply #2 - July 22, 2012, 12:02 AM


    Hi Lofty, thanks for that introduction  Smiley

    Very sorry to hear that you are having a hard time of things. I think you will find that people here can fully understand the kind of situation and emotional pressures you are experiencing at this time. Being out of sync with Islam so often means being out of sync with family and friends. There is no easy way to answer you about what to do one way or the other because so much will depend on how you must manage your family and their demands of you, doing so strategically if need be, even acting the part that might get them off your back for example, if it means you get some breathing space as a result.

    Are you living in the UK now? Stick around, sometimes just posting about your feelings on any number of topics can just be a pressure valve and help you get things off your chest and clarify things.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Not sure what to do
     Reply #3 - July 22, 2012, 01:01 AM

    Welcome to the forum Lofty.   Smiley

    I think sometimes parents - regardless of their religion - panic a bit when their sons and especially daughters start to exercise personal autonomy.  They probably can't help it, and there's no point in getting too angry with them for it.  The longer you continue to live independently, the more accepting they are likely to become. 

    I would hope that's the case for you, anyway.  Every family is different though.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Not sure what to do
     Reply #4 - July 22, 2012, 10:47 AM


    Lofty, I have moved your post to the Introductions section where it will likely receive more views. Plus you do introduce yourself here so it would be good to be here  Smiley

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Not sure what to do
     Reply #5 - July 22, 2012, 11:26 AM

    hi and welcome Lofty...
  • Re: Not sure what to do
     Reply #6 - July 22, 2012, 11:28 AM

    Hi Lofty,

    I'm from Kuwait, so I fully understand the culture in the Gulf. People are modernized in some ways but still very religious in many others. It's weird and full of cognitive dissonance.

    I think your problem is that you avoid confrontation at all costs and are afraid of hurting your mother. That's commendable, except that sometimes you need to stand up for your rights. You yourself acknowledge that your mother blackmails you and is well beyond her rights. You don't need to be insensitive and argumentative about it, just sit down and have a talk with her. But be assertive.

    A cohesive relationship (of any kind) requires equality. If there's no equality, it's an oppressive relationship that needs radical restructuring and a renegotiation of the dynamics.
  • Re: Not sure what to do
     Reply #7 - July 22, 2012, 02:04 PM

     parrot

    What are your options?  Are you able to move away and live independently say in another country?

    Do you have short, medium and long term goals?  Where do these issues really fit in the context of your whole life?

    Are there ways to deflect these messages you are getting from your significant others  elsewhere?  Can you get them doing other stuff instead?  Start up a company and employ them?  Find ways to manage them and their opinions?

    Read Sun Tzu Art of War!

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Re: Not sure what to do
     Reply #8 - July 22, 2012, 10:50 PM

    Welcome, Lofty.

    Forgive my ignorant question, but do some Gulf countries accept apostasy ? I've been under the impression that most if not all of them have laws against that, but I may be completely mistaken.
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