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  • the destroying of allat, manat and al-Uzza
     OP - November 07, 2012, 02:06 PM



    I came across a description of the destroying of their icons in this article by Tariq Ali (which is actually a very good, long read itself, all of it - basically he is an atheist but takes an interest in Islamic history and theology and interprets it through a rational, political, atheist lens - it was all about power and politics, basically)

    Anyway, here it is. Never came across this description before. Wonder if anyone can recommend further details of this from Islamic narratives?

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    "A good place for a historian of Islam to start would be 629 AD, or Year 8 of the new Muslim calendar, though that had yet to come into being. In that year, 20 armed horsemen, led by Sa’d ibn Zayd, were sent by Muhammad to destroy the statue of Manat, the pagan goddess of fate, at Qudayd, on the road between Mecca and Medina. For eight years Muhammad had tolerated the uneasy coexistence of the pagan male god Allah and his three daughters: al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat. Al-Uzza (the morning star, Venus) was the favourite goddess of the Quraysh, the tribe to which Muhammad belonged, but Manat was the most popular in the region as a whole, and was idolised by three key Meccan tribes that Muhammad had been desperately trying to win over to his new monotheistic religion. By Year 8, however, three important military victories had been won against rival pagan and Jewish forces. The Battle of Badr had seen Muhammad triumph against the Meccan tribes despite the smallness of his army. The tribes had been impressed by the muscularity of the new religion, and Muhammad must have deemed further ideological compromise unnecessary. Sa’d ibn Zayd and his 20 horsemen had arrived to enforce the new monotheism.

    The keeper of Manat’s sanctuary saw the horsemen approach, but remained silent as they dismounted. No greetings were exchanged. Their demeanour indicated that they had not come to honour Manat or to leave a token offering. The keeper didn’t stand in their way. According to Islamic tradition, as Sa’d ibn Zayd approached the beautifully carved statue of Manat, a naked black woman seemed to emerge from nowhere. The keeper called out: ‘Come, O Manat, show the anger of which you are capable!’ Manat began to pull out her hair and beat her breasts in despair, while cursing her tormentors. Sa’d beat her to death. Only then did his 20 companions join him. Together they hacked away until they had destroyed the statue. The sanctuaries of al-Lat and al-Uzza were dealt with in similar fashion, probably on the same day"


    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n03/tariq-ali/mullahs-and-heretics

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  • Re: the destroying of allat, manat and al-Uzza
     Reply #1 - November 07, 2012, 02:41 PM

    The incidents are mentioned in Ibn Ishaq. But the most detailed source is "the Book of Idols" written by ibn Al-Kalbi in the 8th Century.

    Here is the full text:

    http://answering-islam.org/Books/Al-Kalbi/

  • Re: the destroying of allat, manat and al-Uzza
     Reply #2 - November 07, 2012, 03:40 PM

    Here is a very detailed description of the Siege of Taif and the destruction of the Allat statue. I believe the book is Shia:

    http://elgadir.com/eng/Lib-Imam/lib/pro_ahl/imam01_ali/biography_of_imam_ali/035.htm

    There is a quote there that is allegedly from Muhammad, which is the most gruesome quote I have ever seen attributed to Muhammad:


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    “You accept Islam, or else I shall send one, towards you, who is from me, (or he said, he is like my Conscience)! He will cut your necks and enslave your women and children and confiscate your wealth and property.”


    This is the sort of quote you would expect to see on an anti-Islamic site, not a Muslim site. The source given for this quote is Al-Istī`āb, Vol 2, Page 477. Is that a Shia Hadith collection?
  • Re: the destroying of allat, manat and al-Uzza
     Reply #3 - November 07, 2012, 04:49 PM


    Tony my trusted liege. You are always on top of things  Afro

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