In Islam, the punishment for the rape of any woman (slave or not), is execution

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In Islam, the punishment for the rape of any woman (slave or not), is execution
OP - November 07, 2012, 04:32 PM

Authentic hadith on the punishment of rapists:

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Chapter regarding the punishment of the man who rapes the woman

Burayd Al-Ajali said: "Abu Ja'far was asked about a man who raped a woman". Abu Ja'far replied: "He is to be killed, whether he is muhsan or not"

Abi Abdullah said: "If a man forces himself (by rape) upon a woman, he is to be struck with a sword whether he dies from it or lives."

Zurarah said: I asked Abi Ja'far: "A man forces himself (by rape) upon a woman?" Imam (as) replied: "He is to be killed."

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Kitab Al-Kafi, Volume 7, page 189

(Abi Ja'far (as) and Abi Abdullah (as) are the 5th and 6th Shia Imams, respectively. Shia Muslims consider them to have the same authority over Muslims as the Prophet Muhammed (s) did. Furthermore, Abi Ja'far also had influence over Sunni Islam. He was the teacher and mentor of Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifa.)

Fatwas by classical scholars on rape:

Scholar: Abu al-Qasim Ali ibn Husayn al-Sharif al-Murtadha (965 - 1044)

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"...whoever forces himself upon a woman and rapes her, his neck is to be struck, whether he is muhsan or not.."

".....this act is the most obscene and disgusting in Islamic law and is worse than consensual fornication..."

Source: Al-Intisar, page 527

Scholar: Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid

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Whoever forces himself upon a woman and rapes her, his neck is to be struck (with a sword), whether he is muhsan or not.

Source: Al Muqni'ah, page 778

(All sources provided are in Arabic)

The word 'Muhasan', refers to a man who is married, or has a concubine, or both.
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Reply #1 - November 07, 2012, 04:42 PM

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Reply #2 - November 07, 2012, 04:52 PM

Quote from: Solara on November 07, 2012, 04:42 PM
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Quote from: ShiaMuslim on November 07, 2012, 04:32 PM
Authentic hadith on the punishment of rapists:

Source:

Kitab Al-Kafi, Volume 7, page 189

(Abi Ja'far (as) and Abi Abdullah (as) are the 5th and 6th Shia Imams, respectively. Shia Muslims consider them to have the same authority over Muslims as the Prophet Muhammed (s) did. Furthermore, Abi Ja'far also had influence over Sunni Islam. He was the teacher and mentor of Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifa.)

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hi.. ShiaMuslim...

..............Shia Muslims consider them to have the same authority over Muslims as the Prophet Muhammed (s) did. ......................

really?? there were shia muslim during Prophet's time? I didn't know that..And Prophet of Islam approved hadith of 5th and 6th Shia Imams??

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Reply #3 - November 07, 2012, 05:46 PM

He did not 'approve' of the specific hadith I mentioned, rather, we believe he appointed them as his successors to lead all the Muslims, therefore, we Muslims must follow everything they say.
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Reply #4 - November 07, 2012, 05:53 PM

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In Islam, the punishment for the rape of any woman (slave or not), is execution

But I thought Islam was the religion of peace and that those who portray it as barbaric were just misinterpreting it?

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Reply #5 - November 07, 2012, 05:56 PM

A system that proscribes the same punishment for adultery, incest, rape, leaving Islam, murder, blasphemy and missing 3 Juma prayers in a row is very relevant to today's world.

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Reply #6 - November 07, 2012, 06:01 PM

In Islam, rapists might as well murder their victim too to cover their tracks, since the punishment is the same.

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Reply #7 - November 07, 2012, 06:22 PM

In Islam, if a woman can't prove that she was raped, she has effectively confessed to a crime potentially punishable by death by admitting to sex with a man other than her husband.

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Reply #8 - November 07, 2012, 06:29 PM

^ Do you believe that a woman needs 4 witnesses to prove that she was raped? And do you believe tha raped women are to be punished as well? If so, where is your evidence, because I have never seen a hadith condoning this.
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Reply #9 - November 07, 2012, 06:34 PM

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Reply #10 - November 07, 2012, 06:40 PM

Quote from: ShiaMuslim on November 07, 2012, 05:46 PM
He did not 'approve' of the specific hadith I mentioned, rather, we believe he appointed them as his successors to lead all the Muslims, therefore, we Muslims must follow everything they say.

hi ShiaMuslim.. well we believe lots of things ..lot of nonsense..lot of junk ., so what? that doesn't mean they are facts ..

Did you read it in Quran that he appointed them as his successors? Did he approve any hadith in Quran??

See this guy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HiMgW9yd7w

watch his what he says.. well he believes in that.. Off course he has the right to believe be he can not force others to believe right?? for e.g a Hadith says

That the Prophet said to her, “You have been shown to me twice in my dream. I saw you pictured on a piece of silk and some-one said (to me). ‘This is your wife.’ When I uncovered the picture, I saw that it was yours. I said, ‘If this is from Allah, it will be done.” {Bukhari :: Volume 5 :: Book 58 :: Hadith 235}

I don't believe that.. I think that is nonsense just cock bull story created way after the death of Prophet of Islam.. what do you say ShiaMuslim??

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Reply #11 - November 07, 2012, 07:10 PM

^My point was, that in the Shia religion, any man who rapes a woman must be executed. I made this thread in response to those who claim that Islam allows the rape of slaves.

Now, about the Prophet Muhammed (s) appointing 12 Imams to be his successor, we have an authentic hadith where he states them all, and testifies that they will be his successors:

http://www.revivingalislam.com/2010/08/12-imaams-mentioned-by-name-explicitly.html

About whether Aisha killed the Prophet or not, I have not done enough research on this, but you must know, that Shia hate Aishas and we reject all of her narrations.
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Reply #12 - November 07, 2012, 07:15 PM

Quote from: ShiaMuslim on November 07, 2012, 07:10 PM
^My point was, that in the Shia religion, any man who rapes a woman must be executed. I made this thread in response to those who claim that Islam allows the rape of slaves.

Is it possible for a man to rape his own wife or his own sex slave in Islam?

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Reply #13 - November 07, 2012, 07:21 PM

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Reply #14 - November 07, 2012, 07:32 PM

Quote from: ShiaMuslim on November 07, 2012, 07:10 PM
^My point was, that in the Shia religion, any man who rapes a woman must be executed. I made this thread in response to those who claim that Islam allows the rape of slaves.

And what do you say in response to the comments that have been made here? Why should a rapist not go ahead and kill his victim if the punishment for rape and murder are the same? What if the woman cannot prove rape, and the court finds instead that she had consensual sex, what happens to her then?

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About whether Aisha killed the Prophet or not, I have not done enough research on this, but you must know, that Shia hate Aishas and we reject all of her narrations.

Hatred in the name of religion. Lovely.

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Reply #15 - November 07, 2012, 08:00 PM

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What is being dubbed as Egypt’s “first sex-slave marriage” took place mere days after the Muslim Brotherhood’s Muhammad Morsi was made president.

Last Monday, on the Egyptian TV show Al Haqiqa (“the Truth”), journalist Wael al-Ibrashi began the program by airing a video-clip of a man, Abd al-Rauf Awn, “marrying” his “slave.” Before making the woman, who had a non-Egyptian accent, repeat the Koran’s Surat al-Ikhlas after him, instead of saying the customary “I marry myself to you,” the woman said “I enslave myself to you,” and kissed him in front of an applauding audience.

Then, even though she was wearing a hijab, her owner-husband declared her forbidden from such trappings, commanding her to be stripped of them, so as “not to break Allah’s laws.” She took her veil and abaya off, revealing, certainly by Muslim standards, a promiscuous red dress (all the other women present were veiled). The man claps for her as the video-clip (which can be viewed here) ends.

The owner-husband, Abd al-Rauf Awn, then appeared on the show, identifying himself as an Islamic scholar and expert at Islamic jurisprudence who studied at Al Azhar. He gave several Islamic explanations to justify his “marriage,” from Islamic prophet Muhammad’s “sunna” or practice of “marrying” enslaved captive women, to Koran 4:3, which commands Muslim men to “Marry such women as seem good to you, two and three and four… or what your right hands possess.”

Is this rape? Should he be executed?

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/raymond-ibrahim/egypt’s-first-‘sex-slave-marriage’/

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Reply #16 - November 08, 2012, 01:46 PM

Who were these Authentic hadiths written by
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