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  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     OP - December 11, 2012, 10:51 PM
    It's really suffocating me! Today I was about to tell my sister that I'm not a Muslim. I can't take it anymore!!! My mother and sisters haven't seen me pray for a while and they feel there is something wrong about me!

    I don't want them to know so I know that I should pretend to be a Muslim. I cover my face and hair and that's OK with me but pretending to do all prayers everyday is just too much to me!!!!!!!!!!  Cry Cry Whenever they ask me about my prayers I say I don't pray because of the period. This excuse will become funny even though they know I have irregular periods. I'm really sick of this and I hate it I hate it I hate it!!!!!!!!!! Why don't they just leave me alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say mashallah and astagfirullah etcallah a lot!!!!! Isn't that enough??!!

    Just venting.
    T__________________T
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #1 - December 11, 2012, 11:03 PM
    Yume, are you planning on how to get out of your homeland?

    at the very least, why don't you try to persuade your family to let you visit Europe for a holiday?

    Glad to hear from you too.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #2 - December 11, 2012, 11:05 PM
     far away hug

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9vdUjuWxc
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #3 - December 11, 2012, 11:12 PM
    Quote from: billy on December 11, 2012, 11:03 PM
    Yume, are you planning on how to get out of your homeland?


    Yes I am. It will take time though

    I have to be patient.
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #4 - December 11, 2012, 11:15 PM

    You WILL be patient - because it will all be worth it.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #5 - December 11, 2012, 11:17 PM
    Quote from: nessrriinn on December 11, 2012, 11:05 PM
    far away hug




    thank you  far away hug

    and thank you billy  far away hug
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #6 - December 12, 2012, 12:56 AM
    Welcome back Yume! Great to see you here again.
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #7 - December 12, 2012, 04:04 AM
    I'm sick of pretending to be a non-fundamentalist secularist :( I just wanna Jihad, is that so wrong?!
    <mchawking>: there's a 9 inch one coming out next month and I wish I had money
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #8 - December 12, 2012, 04:56 AM
     far away hug Yume. Hang in there and be patient if you're planning on getting out. My heart goes out to you; it must be very difficult. I've got to pretend to pray too and I also thought about telling my sister a few weeks ago because I just had to tell someone IRL; it's sad and hard, but my situation is probably nothing compared to yours as I live in a Western country.
    Btw, is your country one where you'll suffer judicial punishment for leaving Islam? If it is you shouldn't tell a soul  lipsrsealed
    Good luck. 
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #9 - December 12, 2012, 06:55 AM
    Quote from: Yume on December 11, 2012, 10:51 PM
    It's really suffocating me! .....
    I can't take it anymore!!! .....
     too much to me!!!!!!!!!!  :'.
     I have irregular periods.[..... I'm really sick of this ..
    ..I hate it I hate it I hate it!!!!!!!!!!
    ............. leave me alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     I say mashallah and astagfirullah... etcallah a lot!!!!! Isn't that enough??!!

    Just venting.
    T__________________T

     Cheesy  I like those words   ....etcallah.....fuckingallah...  faq'fallah .....   you can literally make a Allah prayer song out of them and  replace many words that you see down in the tube..

    Yume  ..Yume.. we are living in the world with sea of people,  not in an isolated box.  One way or other way you are going to interact with people whether they are Muslims or Non-Muslims. So  we must learn to live with.   

     Why not  make that Islamic prayer time has an exercise time ? and have fun with it...  see here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojm0yW6luCY

    That will make blood run through your head and face.   It is good for health., Now next is making sounds.,  this is bit tricky., Is every one in home make loud sounds? is it in Arabic?   or they just move lips?  Depending upon what they do and what they like you to do  we can think ways to have fun.

    What is life? having fun.. lol..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #10 - December 12, 2012, 07:00 AM
    Quote from: Pharaoh on December 12, 2012, 04:04 AM
    I'm sick of pretending to be a non-fundamentalist secularist :( I just wanna Jihad, is that so wrong?!

    No.. it is not wrong Pharaoh., it is your head and it is your actions so it is up to you what you want be,,

    You can pretend to be a non-fundamentalist secularist
     or You can pretend to be a  fundamental  secularist
    You can pretend to be a  secular   fundamentalist     Cheesy

    What is there in words., you can twist them they way you want.  As long as your actions follow some sort of Golden Rule  and use your common sense guide your actions, it makes no difference what you call your self..  but No fighting ..no fighting



    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #11 - December 12, 2012, 07:21 AM
    If periods make a woman unclean, are there not ways to be permanently unclean?  Oh no, the mouthwash contained alcohol, I am unclean for a fortnight, oh no, a dog brushed against me, I am unclean for a month and must therefore not pray?
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #12 - December 12, 2012, 08:18 AM
    Quote from: Pharaoh on December 12, 2012, 04:04 AM
    I'm sick of pretending to be a non-fundamentalist secularist :( I just wanna Jihad, is that so wrong?!


    That was not at all funny.
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #13 - December 12, 2012, 08:57 AM
    Quote from: moi on December 12, 2012, 07:21 AM
    If periods make a woman unclean, are there not ways to be permanently unclean?  Oh no, the mouthwash contained alcohol, I am unclean for a fortnight, oh no, a dog brushed against me, I am unclean for a month and must therefore not pray?


    Your period makes you unclean the entire time you have it therefore you cannot pray, fast, enter a mosque or touch a Quran for it's duration. I don't think alcohol renders you unclean, consuming it is a sin but I don't think it's najas (impure) in and of itself. AFAIK it's only dog saliva and touching a wet dog that is considered "unclean" and even then you have to wash yourself seven times or something before you're clean again so if you used that as an excuse you'd just be told to clean yourself.
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #14 - December 12, 2012, 09:41 AM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on December 12, 2012, 04:56 AM
    Btw, is your country one where you'll suffer judicial punishment for leaving Islam? If it is you shouldn't tell a soul  lipsrsealed
    Good luck. 


    This.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #15 - December 12, 2012, 03:49 PM
    Keep thinking about your future plans. That's where you want to be. As frustrating as it is at the moment to stay silent and keep your disbelief to yourself, it is vitally important if you want to be able to leave in future. Some day you will be free!!!  dance
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #16 - December 12, 2012, 04:15 PM
    Hang in there, Yume. Things will change. Keep productive in the meantime.
    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #17 - December 12, 2012, 08:42 PM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on December 12, 2012, 08:57 AM
    Your period makes you unclean the entire time you have it therefore you cannot pray, fast, enter a mosque or touch a Quran for it's duration. I don't think alcohol renders you unclean, consuming it is a sin but I don't think it's najas (impure) in and of itself. AFAIK it's only dog saliva and touching a wet dog that is considered "unclean" and even then you have to wash yourself seven times or something before you're clean again so if you used that as an excuse you'd just be told to clean yourself.


    It feels as if women are automatically unclean for a fortnight there must be ways to extend that - just needs some thought!
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #18 - December 13, 2012, 12:50 AM
    Nope. Nothing is as inherently filthy as a disgusting menstruating woman.
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #19 - December 13, 2012, 01:00 AM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on December 13, 2012, 12:50 AM
    Nope. Nothing is as inherently filthy as a disgusting menstruating woman.


    What ?   Are you all right Al-Alethia ? Where did you get that from?? Don't write shocking statements......
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #20 - December 13, 2012, 01:41 AM
    Quran 2:222  Muslimah
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #21 - December 13, 2012, 01:51 AM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on December 13, 2012, 01:41 AM
    Quran 2:222  Muslimah


    2:222: Moreover they will ask you about bloodshed or corruption. Tell them, it is damaging and destructive therefore stay away from such parties that are suffering from internal strife and bloodshed or corruption and do not let them join you until they become free of bloodshed or corruption. When they have freed themselves then you should let them join you in the manner Allah has advised you. Surely Allah supports those who turn to Him for His guidance and keep themselves free from what is harmful and destructive.   Tongue

     Cheesy Cheesy
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #22 - December 13, 2012, 02:11 AM
    What?? What kind of deviant, revisionist Quran translation are you getting that from?

    Quran 2:222 (Pickthall translation):
    They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness.
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #23 - December 13, 2012, 02:27 AM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on December 13, 2012, 02:11 AM
    What?? What kind of deviant, revisionist Quran translation are you getting that from?

    Quran 2:222 (Pickthall translation):
    They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness.


    what  Pickthall translation  ??  who is that Pickle headed guy?  finmad    you mean that Irish guy William Pickthall??

    he is just taking words from 7th/6th  Arabic fools who may/may not have collected words of alleged Muhammad  who may or may not be a real  Muslim   character.  That translation sounds to me as if it is Arab pagan ritual put in to words..

    the one which i put out is 21 st century translation and that is done with over all Qur'an,  Islam,  Islamic history, Quran revelation time in mind .  And carefully looking in to what these fools have done to Islam for the past 1400 years.  They screwed the name "Muhammad".. they screwed Quran.. they screwed Islam  and they screwed whole humanity..

    RASCALS.. i am not going to trust  their translation..  finmad   they are troubling the folks (Muslims and Non-Muslims)  for a long time...
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #24 - December 13, 2012, 02:48 AM
    No no no Yeez  finmad that verse is talking about menstruation; everyone knows that! You can't just make up your own Quran.
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #25 - December 13, 2012, 02:55 AM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on December 13, 2012, 02:48 AM
    No no no Yeez  finmad that verse is talking about menstruation; everyone knows that! You can't just make up your own Quran.

    nope., no..no.....  ..Al-Alethia.,    you need food  you need glucose to  memory cells and  you need lot of oxygen to analyze Quran.

    I think you are hungry..  lol..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #26 - December 13, 2012, 02:56 AM

    I give you this cat Yume. Smiley
    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #27 - December 13, 2012, 04:16 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on December 13, 2012, 02:55 AM
    I think you are hungry..  lol..


    How did you know I was hungry  Shocked
    I still stand by my position re 2:222  nyanya
  • Sick of pretending to be Muslim
     Reply #28 - December 13, 2012, 05:29 PM
    Does Islam use any Jewish ritual cleansing methods?

    Quote
    Mikveh
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Mikveh (sometimes spelled as mikvah, or either way without the ending -"h") (Hebrew: מִקְוֶה / מקווה, Modern Mikve Tiberian Miqwā; plural: mikva'ot or mikves (Yiddish)[1][2] Hebrew: מִקְוֶוֹת / מִקְוָאות) is a bath used for the purpose of ritual immersion in Judaism. The word "mikveh", as used in the Hebrew Bible, literally means a "collection" – generally, a collection of water.[3]

    Several biblical regulations specify that full immersion in water is required to regain ritual purity after ritually impure incidents have occurred. Most forms of impurity can be nullified through immersion in any natural collection of water.

    Some, such as a Zav, however require "living water,"[4] such as springs or groundwater wells. Living water has the further advantage of being able to purify even while flowing, as opposed to rainwater which must be stationary in order to purify. The mikveh is designed to simplify this requirement, by providing a bathing facility that remains in ritual contact with a natural source of water.

    Its main uses nowadays are:

    by Jewish women to achieve ritual purity after menstruation or childbirth;
    by Jewish men to achieve ritual purity (see details below);
    as part of a traditional procedure for conversion to Judaism;
    for utensils used for food.

    In Orthodox Judaism, these regulations are steadfastly adhered to, and consequently the mikveh is central to an Orthodox Jewish community, and they formally hold in Conservative Judaism as well. The existence of a mikveh is considered so important in Orthodox Judaism, that an Orthodox community is required to construct a mikveh before building a synagogue, and must go to the extreme of selling Torah scrolls or even a synagogue if necessary, to provide funding for the construction.[5] Reform Judaism and Reconstructionist Judaism regard the biblical regulations as anachronistic to some degree, and consequently do not put much importance on the existence of a mikveh. Some opinions within Conservative Judaism have sought to retain the ritual requirements of a mikveh while recharacterizing the theological basis of the ritual in concepts other than ritual purity.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikveh
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
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