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 Topic: Islam: The Untold Story - Comments, Observations, Questions

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  • Islam: The Untold Story - Comments, Observations, Questions
     Reply #30 - June 25, 2014, 03:55 PM

    Emotional detachment

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_detachment

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    First sense: inability to connect[edit]
    Emotional detachment in the first sense above often arises from psychological trauma and is a component in many anxiety and stress disorders. The person, while physically present, moves elsewhere in the mind, and in a sense is "not entirely present", making them sometimes appear preoccupied or distracted. In other cases, the person may seem fully present but operate merely intellectually when emotional connection would be appropriate. This may present an extreme difficulty in giving or receiving empathy and can be related to the spectrum of narcissistic personality disorder.[1]
    Thus, such detachment is often not as outwardly obvious as other psychiatric symptoms; people with this problem often have emotional systems that are in overdrive. They have a hard time being a loving family member. They avoid activities, places, and people associated with any traumatic events they have experienced. The dissociation can also lead to lack of attention and, hence, to memory problems and in extreme cases, amnesia.
    A fictional description of the experience of emotional detachment in the first sense was given by Virginia Woolf in Mrs Dalloway. In that novel the multifaceted sufferings of a war veteran, Septimus Warren Smith, with post-traumatic stress disorder (as this condition was later named) including dissociation, are elaborated in detail. One clinician has called some passages from the novel "classic" portrayals of the symptoms.[2]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_detachment#First_sense:_inability_to_connect

    Perhaps some who have been abused due to Islamic teachings and have associated the abuse with Islam become detached from everything leading to feeling distanced from Muslim relatives and also avoiding things related to Islam due to personal pain. The detachment from the community may lead to a reduced emotional connection. This is like the longer you are apart from relatives the less you feel necessarily an emotional connection to them. The less you spend time around Islam ("not entirely present") the less emotional connection you may feel to it.

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    Second sense: decision to not connect emotionally[edit]
    Emotional detachment in the second sense above is a decision to avoid engaging emotional connections, rather than an inability or difficulty in doing so, typically for personal, social, or other reasons. In this sense it can allow people to maintain boundaries, psychic integrity and avoid undesired impact by or upon others, related to emotional demands. As such it is a deliberate mental attitude which avoids engaging the emotions of others.
    This detachment does not necessarily mean avoiding empathy; rather it allows the person space needed to rationally choose whether or not to be overwhelmed or manipulated by such feelings. Examples where this is used in a positive sense might include emotional boundary management, where a person avoids emotional levels of engagement related to people who are in some way emotionally overly demanding, such as difficult co-workers or relatives, or is adopted to aid the person in helping others such as a person who trains himself to ignore the "pleading" food requests of a dieting spouse, or indifference by parents towards a child's begging.
    Emotional detachment also allows acts of extreme cruelty, such as torture and abuse, supported by the decision to not connect empathically with the person concerned. Social ostracism, such as shunning and parental alienation, are other examples where decisions to shut out a person creates a psychological trauma for the shunned party.[3] As a result, the decision as to whether emotional detachment in any given set of circumstances is considered to be a positive or negative mental attitude is a subjective one, and therefore a decision on which different people may not agree.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_detachment#Second_sense:_decision_to_not_connect_emotionally

    The top 2 paragraphs describe a situation where on analysis people may decide Islam has hurt them or disadvantages them or others in some way so they consciously try to distance themselves from it therefore as time goes on less of an emotional connection occurs as have not related to Islam in a long time.

    The cruelty due to emotional detachment in the form of Honour violence. This basically means that honour violence perpetrators suspend their emotional attachment to the child due to the emotional connection and societal pressure surrounding culture and religion is just so strong. This leads possibly to the first form of emotional detachment as above the above quote.

    Thoughts?
  • Islam: The Untold Story - Comments, Observations, Questions
     Reply #31 - June 25, 2014, 05:47 PM

    It's a year old, but I don't think this talk was posted here so I'm posting it in this relevant thread.

    Islam- Whose Story?
    55 mins long.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZn_8waNyq4



    That individual, Prof. Sajjad Rizvi, embodies in so few words what is wrong with academia today. He claims that questioning the Qur'an equates to trashing the qur'an and what a billion people believe in. He claims to come from a postmodernist angle (basically wishy washy BS at its worst). He implies that The Atlantic article by Toby Lester (published in 1999 not 2002 Mr Rizvi) was a culmination of islamapphobic revisionist history.  Why are these fools so scared of the truth? Why do they fear questioning?

    The historical method is about matching the best hypothesis with the accumulation of evidence and forming a judgement based upon  facts as opposed to claims that various itnerested parties will make.

    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Islam: The Untold Story - Comments, Observations, Questions
     Reply #32 - June 25, 2014, 08:57 PM

    Happened to come by the documentary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2sCIZPOeJ8


    Very well put together and fascinating.  Afro

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Islam: The Untold Story - Comments, Observations, Questions
     Reply #33 - July 06, 2014, 06:18 AM

    Tim Holland is cool.
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