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 Topic: How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?

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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #30 - January 30, 2013, 11:23 PM
    I think it may be because little impressionable girls play with Barbie dolls and not Lara Croft dolls?  
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #31 - January 30, 2013, 11:36 PM
    Yeah, it's usually grown men that play with Lara.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #32 - January 31, 2013, 12:11 AM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on January 30, 2013, 09:11 PM
    rhinoplasty (something I'd probably do if I had the money)

    Usually a disaster. And when not a disaster, something arguably worse - a betrayal of what you are.

    Erin O'Connor and Anjelica Huston might have had nose jobs...
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #33 - January 31, 2013, 02:10 AM
    The choice to do it definitely makes it differ from FGM.

    BUT FUCK, as if women don't already feel insecure. The more these industries expand, the more "girl organisations" we need, going around school and telling girls "listen, your body is normal, these video women are full of botox and surgery"...Then there's the stress of not having money for surgery, feeling ashamed, shitty role models...

    And who's going to tell young men that the vaginas they see on porn are mutilated vaginas designed to look like 15 year old vajayjays. blah...

    Sometimes I wish I lived in an earlier decade -.-'

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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #34 - January 31, 2013, 02:20 AM
    Who doesn't like a bit of beef in their taco?
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #35 - January 31, 2013, 02:24 AM
    Not sure why it's compared to everything but consensual (male) circumcision...

    And am I the only one who had too look up rhinoplasty only to find out it's a simple nose job?
    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #36 - January 31, 2013, 03:19 AM
    Quote from: Abood on January 31, 2013, 02:20 AM
    Who doesn't like a bit of beef in their taco?


    As long as there is no cheese its all good mate. Yup I just had to cross the line didnt I? Tongue
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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #37 - January 31, 2013, 03:54 AM
    Sour cream?
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #38 - January 31, 2013, 04:12 AM
     Cheesy

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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #39 - January 31, 2013, 07:15 AM

    I actually did a decent amount of research on it and it is anything but "simple".
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #40 - January 31, 2013, 08:21 AM
    Quote from: Alex Lam Meem on January 31, 2013, 02:24 AM
    And am I the only one who had too look up rhinoplasty only to find out it's a simple nose job?

    No, I did too  Embarrassed There goes my hopes of wanting to look like a rhino....
    ~My story~
    ~Collection of unethical hadiths/surahs~
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #41 - January 31, 2013, 12:23 PM
    Quote from: Al-Alethia on January 31, 2013, 07:15 AM
    I actually did a decent amount of research on rhinoplasty when I was having one of my very intense recurring "I hate myself" moments/weeks, and it is anything but "simple".


    I meant "simply" not "simple", thousand apologies. Send me a picture of your "rhino" please.
    "That it is indeed the speech of an illustrious messenger" (The Koran 69:40)
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #42 - January 31, 2013, 03:01 PM
    ^I'd rather not send a pic.
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #43 - January 31, 2013, 08:52 PM
    Plastic surgery is a personal choice and no one has the right to ridicule you for trying to improve yourself.
    I do realize that some people go overboard and try to redo themselves over entirely and that to me signals that something is psychologically wrong with them vs I want bigger boobs or a smaller nose.

    I looked up labialplasty  pics and all I can say is yikes!
    As long as people aren't forced to this I'm fine with it.
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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #44 - January 31, 2013, 09:04 PM
    I agree it's a personal choice, but taking boobs as an example: the wanting bigger ones thing is based on the assumption that there's something wrong with small ones. Does this mean there is something psychologically wrong with the person, or does it mean that there really is something wrong with smaller boobs?
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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #45 - January 31, 2013, 10:44 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 31, 2013, 09:04 PM
    I agree it's a personal choice, but taking boobs as an example: the wanting bigger ones thing is based on the assumption that there's something wrong with small ones. Does this mean there is something psychologically wrong with the person, or does it mean that there really is something wrong with smaller boobs?

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with smaller boobs, it's all about what makes you happy as an individual.
    I had my breasts augmented because I wanted bigger boobs, I like the way they look and feel so does my husband.  grin12
    Personally I don't feel like there is something wrong psychologically with me for having augmented my breasts, it was a personal choice.
    The difference is in a person that looks in the mirror and cannot accept their face and bodies so they have multiple surgeries to correct whatever they perceive as being wrong with them instead of seeking to understand why they feel like they can't be happy with the looks they were born with.

    Women are the only exploited group in history to have been idealized into powerlessness.
    ―Erica Jong
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #46 - January 31, 2013, 11:45 PM

    In Copenhagen a women´s group  actually did something about dispelling the myth of  what a vagina should look like :

    http://go.tv2.dk/articlefornoejelse/id-38147041:s%C3%A5-er-der-billeder-fra-kussomaten.html


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    Bushy, clean shaven, striped, big labias, small labias, wrinkly or smooth. Women’s´ genitals look as different as their owners.

    On the occasion of the Women´s  International Day the 8th of March at the Goethe Institute in Copenhagen you could take a picture of your genitals in the so called “Kussomat” (Cuntomat).

    The pictures are to be used to document the variety among female genitals which do not necessarily look like what you see in a Porn movie.

    “Far too many photos of the female genitals that are available on the Net are pornographic. The pornographic cunt lives up to some definite ideals. It is to be absolutely symmetrical and have ultra-small labias – and of course it is to be hairless.” Write the organizers at their website.

    Compare your C…

    In the course of the few days the Kussomat was open, many women took advantage of the opportunity to take a picture of their genitals. Now the first pictures have been uploaded to the website Kvindekenddinkrop.dk (Womanknowyourbody.dk) enabling you to compare yourself with other women, completely anonymously, and maybe find out, that you are not at all as abnormal looking as you may think

    .

    NSFW !!!

    Kussomat pictures :

    http://kvindekenddinkrop.dk/kkdkpix.html#

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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #47 - February 01, 2013, 02:12 AM
    Quote from: Paloma on January 31, 2013, 11:45 PM

    NSFW !!!

    Kussomat pictures :

    http://kvindekenddinkrop.dk/kkdkpix.html#




    Well I was going to comment on a particularly funky picture of a vagina, but it appears that it automatically randomly selects pics when you refresh...

    Anyway, looking at pictures of real vagina's certainly helps me feel less insecure about my own cock and balls.  Afro
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    how fuck works without shit??


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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #48 - February 01, 2013, 02:13 AM
    Umm, Asbie, I hate to break this to you, but your cock and balls aren't meant to look like any of those pix.
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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #49 - February 01, 2013, 03:21 AM
     Cheesy

    Quote from: Al-Alethia on January 31, 2013, 03:01 PM

    Side note: My interactions with you are always so odd.


    I was going to wait until your birthday, but OK: I like you too. A lot.
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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #50 - February 01, 2013, 03:35 AM
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    I do realize that some people go overboard and try to redo themselves over entirely and that to me signals that something is psychologically wrong with them vs I want bigger boobs or a smaller nose.


    Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD, also body dysmorphia, dysmorphic syndrome; originally dysmorphophobia) is a type of mental illness, a somatoform disorder, wherein the affected person is concerned with body image, manifested as excessive concern about and preoccupation with a perceived defect of their physical features. ~ wikipedia

    Lol I learned that from nip/tuck Tongue
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    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #51 - February 01, 2013, 03:43 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on February 01, 2013, 02:13 AM
    Umm, Asbie, I hate to break this to you, but your cock and balls aren't meant to look like any of those pix.


    All I'm saying is, there's a reason sex is also known as "bumping uglies".
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #52 - February 01, 2013, 06:05 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 31, 2013, 09:04 PM
    I agree it's a personal choice, but taking boobs as an example: the wanting bigger ones thing is based on the assumption that there's something wrong with small ones. Does this mean there is something psychologically wrong with the person, or does it mean that there really is something wrong with smaller boobs?

    option c, there is something wrong with how people react to smaller boobs. Personally I don't give two thoughts to my appearance when I spend long periods of time alone, it's when I interact with other people, and experience how they treat me because of my appearance that I can get upset about it.

    Quote from: David on January 31, 2013, 12:11 AM
    Usually a disaster. And when not a disaster, something arguably worse - a betrayal of what you are.


    'I am not this mask nor the flesh and skin underneath it nor the bones beneath them' etc...
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #53 - February 01, 2013, 07:48 AM
    Yes, I realise there are other options. I was questioning the options MB gave. She claimed that having a lot of plastic surgery probably indicated psychological problems, which I think is a fair enough guess in most cases, but for some reason wanted to exempt boob jobs. So, I posed my question in response. Turns out that the reason she wanted to exempt boob jobs is because she had one, and obviously wouldn't want that choice to indicate psychological problems.

    Ok, IMO people are pretty much entitled to do whatever they like with their own boobs.  As far as I know MB doesn't have any exceptional psychological problems (given that all humans seem to have some). The only thing that bugs me about her choice is that every person who buys into the "bigger boobs are better so get yerself a boob job" mindset increases the cultural pressure on women and girls who haven't yet bought into it.

    As you said, it's people's reactions that are the problem. Or, more accurately, the effect of internalising their reactions and taking them as an indication that there is something wrong with yourself. Personally, I've never found any correlation between breast size and attractiveness anyway.
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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #54 - February 01, 2013, 11:00 AM
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    Personally, I've never found any correlation between breast size and attractiveness anyway.


    Me neither wacko I have a few things I'd like to alter but breast size has never occurred to me as something that matters. I always thought the obsession with big boobs was some weird straight guy fetish that I could  just never understand because I'm a heterosexual female.

  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #55 - February 01, 2013, 11:46 AM
    Some guys seem to be obsessed with big boobs. Others aren't. From my perspective, boob size is much like hair colour. If I find a particular blonde attractive, that doesn't mean I have something against brunettes and redheads, nor does it mean I'll like all blondes.
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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #56 - February 01, 2013, 02:12 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on February 01, 2013, 07:48 AM
    Ok, IMO people are pretty much entitled to do whatever they like with their own boobs.  As far as I know MB doesn't have any exceptional psychological problems (given that all humans seem to have some). The only thing that bugs me about her choice is that every person who buys into the "bigger boobs are better so get yerself a boob job" mindset increases the cultural pressure on women and girls who haven't yet bought into it.

    As you said, it's people's reactions that are the problem. Or, more accurately, the effect of internalising their reactions and taking them as an indication that there is something wrong with yourself. Personally, I've never found any correlation between breast size and attractiveness anyway.



    Osmanthus, I agree to a certain extent with you here.
    But it still comes down to a personal choice, maybe it's not a boob job but rhinoplasty or liposuction that people want to have done and if it makes them feel better than they should be able to have corrective surgery (within reason).
    People also chemically treat their hair, add extensions and have artificial nails done, these are just a few of the non surgical alterations that the average woman does without giving it a second thought, does that mean that other women should avoid getting a manicure for fear that it will increase the cultural pressure for others to do the same?

     Another example the current trend for women's bodies is to be rail thin, the fashion industry gave us Twiggy and Kate Moss as standards for what a women's body should look like, and many girls and young women torture themselves trying to be that thin, people diet and go to great lengths to loose a few pounds that do not make them look fat to begin with, yet we still have women who feel like they can never measure up.

    The world isn't fair and the standards have been preset already, we can make adjustments or try to be happy with how we were born either way people will continue to alter their appearances.
    It's important to raise our son's and daughters with a healthy perspective on body image so that they can make their own sound decisions about how they want to look and feel.
    Women are the only exploited group in history to have been idealized into powerlessness.
    ―Erica Jong
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #57 - February 01, 2013, 04:38 PM
    I have to agree with MB. It's not as simple as saying that women who undergo cosmetic surgery are adding to the problem. If you've ever had to struggle with how you look, to the extent that it effects your social life and mental health, you'd probably not see it that way.
  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #58 - February 01, 2013, 08:04 PM
    Yes I understand that factor too. It can work both ways. However, cosmetic surgery has become a lot more prevalent and mainstream over the past few decades, so new norms are being established there (just as they have been in the fashion industry). I'm not sure they are particularly good ones.
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  • How is "The Barbie" different from circumcision?
     Reply #59 - February 01, 2013, 08:12 PM
    Individuals are perfectly capable of ignoring social pressures.
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