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Topic: Islam or Atheism March 9th Hamza "Schmuck" Tzortis vs Lawrence "The Man" Krauss

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Reply #210 - April 09, 2013, 01:27 AM

How long before Hamza moves onto pre-suppositionalism. (yawn ....zzzzzz....) What we could then do is set him up in a debate with Sye Ten Bruggencate and leave them to spiral down into an quran vs bible infinite regress of 'how do you know your reason is reasonable without using reason which can only come from allah/yahweh?'.

Then the rest of us can all piss off down the pub :-)

I am better than your god......and so are you.

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Reply #211 - April 09, 2013, 05:36 PM

Wow, Arif Ahmed was so awesome in that debate. Except I really didn't like his analogy of the coin.
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Reply #212 - April 10, 2013, 06:31 PM

I'll put this here because I feel like klingshore et all DESTROYED the Quranic miracle, like it's hard to imagine salvaging it. I know they are responding to Da'wah man, but he's merely parroting Hamza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCZTBX_tK_8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
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Reply #213 - April 10, 2013, 08:29 PM

That was so informative. The fact that there is no consensus among all people on whether or not the Qur'aan is sajj, a unique form of sajj, or it's own form only PROVES that the criteria that is used to judge the form of sajj is SUBJECTIVE. I understand though that for the 16 forms of poetry, there is still an objective metric, because the forms are modeled upon consistent syllables and patterns. Prose is a different story.
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Reply #214 - April 12, 2013, 01:19 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/7012827/Speaker-with-extremist-links-to-address-Detroit-bombers-former-student-group.html

I know this is old, but should not Mr Tortoise - and probably others - have been arrested and charged with something? It feels to me as if they are deliberately trading a very fine line.

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

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Reply #215 - April 12, 2013, 02:12 PM

Nah, they get around the various things by saying they are only advising what should happen in an Islamic state not in Britain (which as you know isn't an Islamic state yet, inshallah they always say). After ten years or so they know their way around the free speech laws. on the twitter feed CEMB posted some tweets from apologists advising to avoid talking about killing of apostates etc to avoid authorities. on Islamic Awakening forums they have the infamous A4 code that the mods use to delete anything that could get them in trouble. They've worked their away around these things.

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
My political philosophy below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
Just kidding, here are some true heros
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Reply #216 - April 12, 2013, 02:51 PM

OK, get them to define in detail the perfect Islamic state.

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

A.A. Milne,

"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
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Reply #217 - April 12, 2013, 03:53 PM

they wouldn't be liable for anything though because it's a hypothetical. They can say "In an Islamic state, all gays should be killed, but we aren't in an Islamic state so I don't advocate killing them here" and that's fine as far as the law goes.

So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
My political philosophy below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
Just kidding, here are some true heros
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
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Reply #218 - April 15, 2013, 03:11 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2013/apr/15/leicester-investigating-islamic-group-gender-segregation

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The University of Leicester has launched an investigation into gender segregation at a public lecture held by its student Islamic society.

The talk, entitled Does God Exist?, featured a guest speaker Hamza Tzortzis as part of an Islamic Awareness week. Seating at the event was segregated, with different entrances into the lecture theatre for men and women.

When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.

A.A. Milne,

"We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
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Reply #219 - April 15, 2013, 04:15 PM

AGAIN?

FUCKING SERIOUSLY?

thanks for the article moi. Sorry for my language.
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