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  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #30 - March 01, 2013, 06:46 PM

    This may be a bit controversial, but I find myself thinking sometimes that Muslim majority countries need to go through a phase of Islamic fundamentalism in order to dispel the myth of the Islamic Utopia.


    Be careful what you wish for, Iran has gone through their phase of Islamic Fundamentalism, I think they have successfully dispelled that myth, so congratulations to them, but now they are stuck with it.  Cry
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #31 - March 01, 2013, 06:51 PM

    ^Exactly. Now, a hundred years from now when the Mullahs have been completely overthrown, any talk of going back to a theocracy will be met with a resounding "HELL NO!" The people will know that they have been there and done that and it really was not so pretty. I didn't say it was easy or pleasant; I just said that sometimes I think it is necessary.
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #32 - March 01, 2013, 06:58 PM

    I understand what you are saying in theory, but there is no guarantee that the Mullahs will be overthrown in 100 years or 200 years or 300 years.....

    Anyway right now when Muslims say they want Sharia, and Secularists say, "Oh like Iran? or Afghanistan under the Taliban?" They reply "That's not real Sharia".

    So I can imagine that they could do the same thing in the aftermath of any brutal theocracy, simply claim that that was a bad theocracy and we are now going to install a good theocracy...
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #33 - March 01, 2013, 07:00 PM

    That's true. Even when countires follow Islam to the tee like Saudi Arabia, Muslims are always quick to scream that its not real Islam. And yet, the minute a government does not follow Islam, Muslims are quick to call them kuffar.
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #34 - March 02, 2013, 12:35 AM

    Quote
    Muslims could look back on the period of Islamic rule with a sense of nostalgia. The downfall of the influence of the Islamic world is often attributed not to religion, but to western colonialism and imperialism.


    Soldiers of Allah - 1924 (a song we used to listen to at school)

    The truth about the state
    It wasn't always like this
    Let us look back in time
    History reminds us
    One army
    One land

    One central authority
    Crushing the romans
    persians put in fear
    The Ummah like a Lion
    No need to shed a tear


    When the village was attacked by the kufar
    The Khalife heard
    The sister cry &
    Prepared for war
    Attacking the city

    Destroying it
    from existence
    Lesson # 1
    Don't ever
    Mess with Muslims

    The Imam of the Ummah is a shield where he protects the Ummah and where the Ummah fights behind him
    Where is this shield today to protect the Ummah?? What happen to this shield to honor and dignify the Ummah???
    In 1917 Prime Minister of britain after entering Jerusalem stated "the crusade war has ended"
    In the same year the french general, goro went to the grave of Salahudeen-Ayubi
    Salahudeen-Ayubi, the one who 730 years prier crushed the crusades and liberated Palestine & Syria
    he went to his grave in Damascus and kicked it and said wake up oh Salahudeen we hare here �
    How did they do this
    to you and me
    We turn on the TV
    and all we see
    is a world full of casualties
    a generation in agony
    our Ummah is in misery
    let us go back
    to beginning of the century
    and review our history

    from one side
    to the other side of the globe
    the system of Islam
    Ruled over the world
    They went to the Muslims
    for the all their solutions
    from mathematics to biology
    to the advancements in technology


    the kafir women
    use to imitate our women
    they wanted the same respect
    that the Muslims sisters were given while the enemies of Islam
    were trying to twist the Quran
    trying to write a Surah like Allah's they all failed miserably
    & many of them responded with Ashhadu -an la Ilaha Ilallah wa Ashhadu- anna Muhammadun rasullullah
    Allah has challenged the humanity until the day of judgment to produce a Sura or an Aya like the Quran
    And Allah assures that they will never be able to make an Aya like it
    The kufar plan and work to destroy this Deen and Allah affirms that we too are planning
    and if all the people of the world got together they still could not and will never be able to put even a scratch a side of a muster seeds on the throne of almighty Allah (SWT)

    After failing on the battlefield
    they kufar got together
    and they decided to yield
    they said we must change
    the way the Muslims think
    and sure enough

    the Muslim Ummah
    began to sink
    In 1917 john belford
    promised Palestine
    to the jews 31 years later
    his promise went through

    brittan and france
    split the Muslim lands
    3 years later
    Islam worst traitor
    mustafa kamal
    Brought the states fall

    In 1920's mustafah kammal with the help of the british becomes the hero
    Hmm well this so-called hero cancels the authority of the most powerful system suitable for human beings
    The khilafah!!!
    he abandon all the rulings of Allah he did not stop there
    He abanded the Adan in Arabic, he denied Muslim sister from obeying Allah (SWT) by abandoning the Hijab
    All Islamic calendars and holidays were canceled
    Yes brothers and sisters
    he changes the Arabic alphabet to Latin
    By doing so he made sure the next generation will be lost and have no connection to their Islamic roots
    as they can not read or write all the Islamic culture that was recorded
    This Islamic system sent by the Creator of alameen went from the application in life to be in museums for people to go and see in turkey

    In 1924
    Our state was demolished
    Hundred years of planning And their plans were accomplished
    Kafirs broke our bond
    Contaminated our knowledge
    Better listen up
    because you won't learn this in college

    Beginning of the end
    and the divisions began
    Step by step
    they divided our lands
    in 1921 saudi arabia & iran
    next year egypt &
    In 32 iraq

    In 1945
    jordan indonesia
    Lebonen & syria
    Two years later
    The division of India
    the Muslims took a stand
    and demanded
    the ruling of Islam
    so they gave them pakistan
    but it was only an illusion
    a false resolution
    far from the solution
    In 1948
    The Jews establish their israeli state


    In 1901 the kufar went to Sultan Abdull Hamid the II and offered to pay tremendous amount of money to the Islamic State for Palestine. Sultan Abdull Hamid the II replied:
    I am not going to give one inch of Palestine to the jews as Palestine is not mine give but it belongs to the Ummah and Ummah have shed blood to defend this land but if one day the Islamic State falls apart then you can have Palestine for free but as long as I am alive I would rather have my flesh be cut up then cut out Palestine from the Muslim land I will not allow any carving up while we are alive!!!!!

    In 1960's
    somolia & nigaria
    kuwait & algeria
    In 1964 Came the PLO
    yasar arafat
    The us scarecrow
    a great declined
    In 1969
    When the west was training Muslims scholars for hire
    Jews were setting
    Al-Aqsa mosque on fire!

    Let us recall 1970
    For those who don't remember
    That was the year
    That we had black September

    The king of jorden
    & yaser arafat
    Began their plot
    Shot after shot
    Muslim blood spilled
    As innocent Muslims were killed
    Communism attacked
    but Muslims fought back

    The sincere Mujahideen of Afghanistan fought and pushed back the Russians
    and then They started to fight among themselves
    Khomaine became in power with the promise of ruling and raising the Ummah to a level of dignity
    But his promise never went through
    soon after iran and iraq went to war
    And millions of innocent Muslims died for 10 years Muslims killing Muslims
    Over what!!!??? What else!!! the agenda of the west!!! at the end there were no resolution
    Today iran is very much open to democracy and reformation
    and the Muslims in iraq continue to suffer.
    SubhanAllah!. where is the Amir of the Ummah??!!!..

    Another decade gone
    But we still don't have Islam
    Take a look at the gulf
    And the killings of sadam
    Over million Muslims died
    But no one answered their cries
    In the 1990's
    The Muslim genocide
    Bosnia
    Kosovo
    Chechenya
    Dagistan

    Bring back Islam!
    Bring back Islam!
    Bring back Islam!
    Bring back Islam!


    It's year 2000
    And nothing has changed
    Past generation has aged
    Let us write the next page
    It's time for us to change
    It's up to you & me
    Either we make history
    or we become history

    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #35 - March 02, 2013, 12:38 AM

    Quote
    while the enemies of Islam
    were trying to twist the Quran
    trying to write a Surah like Allah's they all failed miserably


    Should we link em to the Wahhy Project? lol

    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #36 - March 02, 2013, 12:41 AM

    That's true. Even when countires follow Islam to the tee like Saudi Arabia, Muslims are always quick to scream that its not real Islam. And yet, the minute a government does not follow Islam, Muslims are quick to call them kuffar.

     

    They won't be satisfied until the Mahdi dude and Isa(Jesus) come down and re create the caliphate.


    Although whenever a person comes and claims to be the mahdi and Jesus( shitload of cult leaders have already done so)  the muslims are quick to brand him a kaffir.

    Wonder how many years they can keep that line of thinking going.  Roll Eyes

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #37 - March 02, 2013, 12:46 AM

    Yeah, any claimants to mahdi-hood will be quickly put to death. Look at what happened to Juhaiman al-Utaibi.
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #38 - March 02, 2013, 12:47 AM

    Hello TDR  grin12

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swevac0Qink

    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #39 - March 02, 2013, 12:54 AM

    Jila that thing you just posted was insane! How the fuck is all that a song first of all? The levels of delusion that many muslims have is astounding. Not to mention the ability to completely fabricate historical events.
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #40 - March 02, 2013, 12:57 AM

    It was my absolute fave. The guy now runs a Muslim marriage site (it's comedian baba Ali on youtube)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESl9gkf_wc

    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #41 - March 02, 2013, 01:03 AM

    OH MY EFFIN FLYING SPAGHETTI UNICORN! IT'S A WANNA BE RAP!!?? BBAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #42 - March 02, 2013, 01:03 AM

    ^

    I saw that video back when I was a muslim.  


    Man this is too jokes.  

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #43 - March 02, 2013, 01:05 AM

    I thought that was a translation of some old Jihadi Arabic nasheed or something. This is UNREAL! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #44 - March 02, 2013, 01:09 AM

    Dirty Kuffar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZd088e2Lg

    hehe

    Quote from: ZooBear 

    • Surah Al-Fil: In an epic game of Angry Birds, Allah uses birds (that drop pebbles) to destroy an army riding elephants whose intentions were to destroy the Kaaba. No one has beaten the high score.

  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #45 - March 02, 2013, 01:09 AM

    Omg and the mahdi dude. Aww this is great stuff!
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #46 - March 02, 2013, 01:11 AM

    Thing is young Muslims (and even older Muslims) basically have that as their meta narrative.

    Its funny, but they really do take it seriously.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #47 - March 02, 2013, 01:11 AM


     


    BTW would the Mahdi come down wearing T-shirts and pants.  


    juz sayin... 


    Hi Jila grin12

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #48 - March 02, 2013, 01:12 AM

    Wow how does YouTube even allow that "dirty kuffar" stuff. Isn't hate speech a violation of their terms?
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #49 - March 02, 2013, 01:15 AM

    Do these folks not realize that the Arabs themselves hated the Ottoman caliphate and fought against them?
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #50 - March 02, 2013, 01:17 AM

     Oh an while were on the topic of Juhaiman al-Utaibi

    how do muslims reconcile the fact that a person was able to take over the kabbah militarily without much effort.


    I thought that Allah does the whole birds and stones drama when people try that shit Grin

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #51 - March 02, 2013, 01:21 AM

    Man that story is so epic it's amazing. To hear the old Saudi cats who were around during that time tell what it was like back then is so interesting. Apparently,.Saudi Arabia was more free before that incident. The clerics clamped down and exercised more power and control afterwards.
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #52 - March 02, 2013, 01:23 AM

    Also, the fact that there were no birds and stones led some people to believe he really was the mahdi.
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #53 - March 02, 2013, 01:27 AM

    Yeah, that was a certain turning point apparently, that is when the Faustian pact was sealed even further between the Saud family and the Wahaabis.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #54 - March 02, 2013, 01:39 AM

    My land lord in Madina was a Saudi of Turkish descent. He was an old head and boy that man could tell some stories. I miss staying up sipping tea and hearing him talk about how that country was in the sixties and seventies.
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #55 - March 02, 2013, 05:56 AM

    Unlike the Christian world, the Islamic world has not experienced a “Dark Ages” that was directly attributable to religion.


    The Christian world never went through a "dark age" that was attributable to religion. 
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #56 - March 02, 2013, 06:55 AM

    Happy Murtad,

    I think it was Niccolo Machiavelli that mentioned somewhere in the discourses that societies go through these peak and troughs.  Each generation slowly forgetting the hardships the other faced only to repeat the same mistakes. 

    I just hope we all live long enough to see muslim countries moving away from Islam and religion all together.

    Oh my Christopher Hitchens its a fihrrrrrrrrrrrr
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #57 - March 02, 2013, 07:06 AM

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy@dirty kufarr face palm!  I see a lot of muslim youth trying to mix islam with modern living in strange ways like that.   I knew a few guys who listened to rap but were trying to be all wahabi. smdh

    Oh my Christopher Hitchens its a fihrrrrrrrrrrrr
  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #58 - March 02, 2013, 07:14 AM

    Do these folks not realize that the Arabs themselves hated the Ottoman caliphate and fought against them?

    Some do. My mum says they betrayed the Ottomans and sided with the kuffar, hence bringing Islam out of its glory days. I always point out that the Ottoman Empire was a shambles ("the sick man of Europe" they used to call it) when it fell apart; they were falling behind Europe, Turkish secularists/nationalists wanted a Turkish nation sans the "foreign" culture and religion of Islam, the Wahhabis saw the Ottomans as un-Islamic, the Arab nationalists -- as well as the other ethnic groups they ruled over -- saw them as foreign occupiers. It was bound to implode, sooner or later, all empires eventually do. My dad is of the opinion that the Jews snuck in and ruined everything Cheesy 

  • Islam destroyed my country. We were never muslims to begin with
     Reply #59 - March 02, 2013, 07:16 AM

    how do muslims reconcile the fact that a person was able to take over the kabbah militarily without much effort.

    I remember reading somewhere that they even got a few French soldiers to convert to Islam for the sole purpose of getting into Makkah during that siege. If its true that they required kuffar help to reclaim the ka'bah, it must mean that Allah doesn't give a shit anymore. Remember the days when he used to send armies of birds with stones?  

    My mum happens to believe that the dudes who tried to take over the ka'ba were Shi'as sent by Khomeini wacko 
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