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  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     OP - March 05, 2013, 11:07 PM

    Died of cancer, aged 58.

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/hugo-chavez-socialist-showman-transformed-venezuela-222200678.html

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #1 - March 05, 2013, 11:55 PM

    Innaa lillahi wa innaa ilaihi raajioon
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #2 - March 06, 2013, 12:55 AM

    Good riddance.

    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #3 - March 06, 2013, 02:03 AM

    A posturing fool, a man of the people who robbed the people of their voice by undermining democracy.

    And he fucked the economy too.
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #4 - March 06, 2013, 05:24 AM

    Werdddddddddd David
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #5 - March 06, 2013, 09:00 AM

    Kinda crazy that Castro would outlive him, though.

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #6 - March 06, 2013, 12:12 PM

    The only thing I know about him is that he is one of those fuck-america presidents, one of the things he share in common with the global muslim audience. Although they are damning reports of US government involvement in an attempts to overthrow him.

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #7 - March 06, 2013, 01:53 PM

    Hugo Chavez will "return on ressurection day", says Ahmadinejad

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #8 - March 06, 2013, 02:53 PM

    Americans and Jews killed him.
    To get Venezuelan oil.

    Do not look directly at the operational end of the device.
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #9 - March 06, 2013, 03:33 PM

    There was something on the news this morning saying they were going to bury him next to the grave of Simon Bolivar.

    Simon Bolivar is to South Americans what George Washington is to the US, or what Ataturk is to Turkey, so burying him next to Bolivar is a huge sign of reverence.
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #10 - March 08, 2013, 02:05 PM


    This article by a Left wing journalist James Bloodworth on the eulogies about Chavez by parts of the Left is very interesting indeed.

    ++++

    These eulogies for Chavez give the Left a bad name

    'El Comandante' ruined Venezuela's economy and brushed aside human rights

    Aside from giving the impression to those unacquainted with Venezuelan politics that Jesus Christ himself has just departed the scene, those who continue to eulogise the late Hugo Chavez as his funeral gets underway have done something else: they have given the Left a bad name again.
    They have validated, in the eyes of our opponents, Friedrich Hayek’s assertion that the “preservation of individual freedom is incompatible with a full satisfaction of our views of distributive justice”.

    In other words, politicians of the Left will always crackdown on dissent, lock up troublemakers and forge unsavoury alliances – that, the Right will smugly assert, is the price of Socialism.

    Given much of the Left’s reaction to the death of President Chavez on Tuesday, that appears to be an assumption many of my comrades share. Commentators who would never normally flinch from citing international human rights bodies when it is expedient to do so seem to have temporarily misplaced their Amnesty International membership cards when it comes to the record of the deceased Venezuelan comandante – and all because he nationalised a few industries and got the welfare system running again.

    Unfortunately, though, when progressives dismiss the human rights abuses of Chavez with a flick of the hand and an assertion that George Bush was a pretty bad guy too, they set back the very cause they seek to champion – a more just world.

    Lies
    During the Cold War, the old argument we on the Left used to confront was that while the Communist regimes in the East had achieved a degree of social equality, they had done so with a heavy price attached – the loss of the most basic freedoms. Honest Western Communists would admit as much, and would say that they really viewed things like freedom of the press and the right to strike as a bourgeois irrelevance to the workers of Russia and Eastern Europe. Much more important to the toilers of the East was the fulfilment of material equality and the alleviation of extreme poverty.

    Today’s version of this sinister argument is phrased differently but its implications are not much better. How dare we in the West lecture those on a dollar or two a day about human rights? People in faraway lands are not worried about things like freedom of speech and the right to vote; they simply want food on the table, so the argument goes.

    Yet even a short stay in Raul Castro’s Cuba – Hugo Chavez’s closest political ally and one of the few remaining states that still follows the failed model of state Socialism Chavez hoped to emulate - refutes the fallacy of redistribution without liberty. On that beleaguered island (which I have visited half a dozen times, before you ask), corruption is endemic and double-think is a way of life. It resembles the description given of the Soviet Union in its twilight by Mikhail Gorbachev’s former Prime Minister, Nikolai Ryzhkov:

    “[We] stole from ourselves, took and gave bribes, lied in the reports, in newspapers, from high podiums, wallowed in our lies, hung medals on one another. And all of this – from top to bottom and from bottom to top.”

    Under Chavez’s rule in Venezuela, it is true, as his Western fans enjoy repeating, that wealth was redistributed and the living standards of the poorest were raised to an extent previously unknown. But that came at the cost of an emaciated judiciary, a terrified press and a compliant trade union movement. If there is anything Socialists should have learnt from the 20th century, it is this: leaders who promise prosperity at the expense of freedom rarely deliver either.

    Those on the Left who remain unconvinced ought to ask themselves whether the verdict of the International Trade Union Confederation can be easily dismissed as an imperialist ploy to subvert the Bolivarian Revolution. In its 2012 report on Venezuela, it said that “anti-union discrimination, violations of collective bargaining rights and the non-respect of collective agreements were frequent and persistent in both the public and private sector”.

    Power Cuts
    In its 2011 annual report, Amnesty International described Venezuela under Chavez as a country where “those critical of the government were prosecuted on politically motivated charges in what appeared to be an attempt to silence them”. And according to a statement from Human Rights Watch this week, Hugo Chávez’s presidency was characterized by “a dramatic concentration of power and open disregard for basic human rights guarantees”.

    The idea of Bolivarian Socialism as a 21st century model the Left should seek to emulate is also built on economic foundations of sand. As Rory Carroll puts it in his new book, Comandante: Hugo Chávez's Venezuela, Chavez has left Venezuela “a land of power cuts, broken escalators, shortages, queues, insecurity, bureaucracy, unreturned calls, unfilled holes, uncollected garbage”.

    In other words, like sad, broken Cuba.

    Arturo Franco of the Center for International Development at Harvard University also noted: “Venezuela is the fifth largest economy in Latin America, but during the last decade, it's been the worst performer in GDP per capita growth.”

    Any self-proclaimed progressive who believes that such things do not matter ought to consider the possibility that it might not be Socialism they are really looking for, but rather sloganeering.

    Those who do know better ought to reflect on George Orwell’s admonishment of the fellow travellers of his era:

    “Do remember that dishonesty and cowardice always have to be paid for. Don’t imagine that for years on end you can make yourself the boot-licking propagandist of the Soviet regime, or any other regime, and then suddenly return to mental decency.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/these-eulogies-for-chavez-give-the-left-a-bad-name-8526685.html

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #11 - March 08, 2013, 02:25 PM

    Innaa lillahi wa innaa ilaihi raajioon


    May Allah grant him Jannatul al Firdaws! Amin ya rabbilalameen!

    "Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all
            Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

    - John Keats
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #12 - March 08, 2013, 02:43 PM

    Nicolas Maduro, Chavez's successor, says that "we have absolutely no doubt that a special scientific commission will definitely find out that the USA had infected both Hugo Chavez and Yasser Arafat with cancer".

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/05/world/americas/venezuela-chavez-main/index.html

    Sorry could not find a video with English subtitles, but here it is from the horse's mouth:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOnQaW-TdUA

  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #13 - March 09, 2013, 10:17 AM

     Roll Eyes
    Are there no sane people who could be President of Venezuela?

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #14 - March 10, 2013, 02:29 AM

    Nicolas Maduro, Chavez's successor, says that "we have absolutely no doubt that a special scientific commission will definitely find out that the USA had infected both Hugo Chavez and Yasser Arafat with cancer".

    Cancer ? They should have used AIDS instead, it's easier !
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #15 - March 10, 2013, 09:18 PM

    I didn't even know this guy existed until last week. Everyone's talking about him and I'm like who the fuck is Hugo Chavez. I thought he was an actor or something.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • Hugo Chavez Dead
     Reply #16 - March 10, 2013, 09:21 PM

    lol

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
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