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  • Rape culture
     Reply #90 - March 20, 2013, 10:32 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on March 20, 2013, 10:27 PM
    Because the trait wouldn't be "rape". I'd be "dysfunctional brain" or "emotional imbalance" or "extreme anger issues", or other 'traits' that compel someone to seek an extreme outlet such as humiliating or brutalising another person.

    Ok. I still think the distinction is a bit hazy, mainly because it's common for habits or behaviours to be considered as personality traits, but I see your point.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #91 - March 20, 2013, 10:38 PM
    Quote from: Abood on March 20, 2013, 10:30 PM
    No they're not. The point she's making is that rape is part of our culture and what happened in Steubenville is only a snapshot of what happens on a daily basis.

    Obviously.


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    There's no moral difference between lynching tens of thousands of people or raping them. They are both pure and utter evil actions that treat people as less than human.

    In case you haven't noticed, most legal systems treat murder as a more serious crime than rape. Threat of physical violence is often used to force compliance, and it works. A lot of rape victims, although certainly not preferring rape in the sense that we would normally use the term "preference", would think it a better alternative than being murdered. So yes, mass murder is a crime of a greater magnitude, not in the numerical sense but in terms of severity (for want of a better term).
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #92 - March 20, 2013, 10:52 PM
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    Does rape have any evolutionary benefit?


    Perhaps not so much now, with improved law enforcement, readily available contraception and safe abortion. It's a different story back in the day, especially on the battlefield. Soldiers of the victorious army could sire a lot of children through rape, provided they weren't too bothered by the lack of consent. Successful conquerors could sire a ridiculous amount, like Genghis Khan.
    This is still going on today, just to a smaller extent.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #93 - March 20, 2013, 11:14 PM
    Thank you, Captain Unsupported Assertion. Smiley
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #94 - March 20, 2013, 11:26 PM
    It's also worth pointing out that all of this is redundant to the case in question, since as far as what we know, it was anal rape and other non-vaginal humiliation.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #95 - March 20, 2013, 11:30 PM
    True. Or at the very least, this case included a lot of behaviour that had no reproductive advantage.

    Anyway I was reminded of a piece I read over at Pharyngula a while back.

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    There are days when I simply cannot bear the entire field of evolutionary psychology: it’s so deeply tainted with bad research and a lack of rigor. And that makes me uncomfortable, because the fundamental premise, that our behaviors are a product of our history, is self-evidently true. It’s just that researchers in this field couple an acceptance of that premise to a deep assumption of adaptive teleology, the very thing that they should be evaluating, and produce some of the most awesomely trivial drivel.

    I’ve just finished reading an article titled “Darwin’s Rape Whistle: Have women evolved to protect themselves from sexual assault?“, and it’s everything I despise about evolutionary psychology. It’s nothing but sloppy thinking and poor science propped up by a conviction that plausibility is sufficient support for certainty.

    Italics mine.

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    Too often investigators start with the assumption that a feature absolutely must have been selected for, or it wouldn’t be there, and then contrive elaborate rationalizations for processes that could have favored its preservation in our ancestry…and the aura of plausibility is then sufficient to conclude that it must be so, even in the absence of any supporting evidence, and sometimes even in the face of contradictory evidence.

    Some people forget that things don't have to be selected for. They can exist if they are just not selected against.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #96 - March 21, 2013, 12:13 AM
    "Darwin’s Rape Whistle: Have women evolved to protect themselves from sexual assault?" sounds like the shit Todd Akin world eat raw. Or fund.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #97 - March 21, 2013, 05:23 AM
    Rape Victim Bullied By High School Football Fans

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQAgYLhnrvo
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #98 - March 22, 2013, 05:55 AM
    "Scientists" need to butt their heads out of social issues. There's a reason that no one funds research into evolutionary psychology to isolate the source of rape. It's the same reason that they don't fund research exploring "human biodiversity", or what might commonly be misconstrued as "race".
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #99 - March 22, 2013, 07:45 PM
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    "Scientists" need to butt their heads out of social issues. There's a reason that no one funds research into evolutionary psychology to isolate the source of rape.



    Name one good reason...
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #100 - March 22, 2013, 07:57 PM
    Seriously, scientists should stop trying to explain anything that makes people uncomfortable.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #101 - March 22, 2013, 09:12 PM
    ^ For some values of 'seriously'. Error bars available in Appendix C.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #102 - March 22, 2013, 10:32 PM
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #103 - March 22, 2013, 11:15 PM
    The two perverted fucks should be put away for life for the physical pain and humiliation they caused to the girl. 

    Seriously, even if they were teenagers they knew full well what they were doing and in my opinion rapists should spend their entire lives in jail......

    I hope this does end up completely destroying the careers and reputation of both boys for life.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #104 - March 23, 2013, 01:33 AM
    TBH I'm more concerned about what is being done to the girl (death threats and all sorts of crap) than what happens to the two idiots (and don't forget all their idiot friends who were at least peripherally involved).
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #105 - March 25, 2013, 02:59 AM
    Quote from: Tlaloc on March 20, 2013, 10:05 AM
    Nature is full of shitty disgusting things that we have always been trying to avoid: death, aging, diseases, parasites, causing the death of other beings just to feed ourselves, etcetera.

    That one is sadly here to stay for a long time.
    Also, one of nature's very cool feature is those animals that eat their way out of their mother. That, and parasites that messes with the host's brain, making it insane. Oh, and those insect that paralyze their prey, inject their larvae in it, and then let the larvae consume the prey from the inside.
    Well, if I ever get caught force-feeding to some babies the rotting corpse of their parents, I'll definitely use the argument it's a natural urge that I couldn't be expected to resist !
  • Rape culture
     Reply #106 - April 05, 2013, 04:19 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on March 20, 2013, 09:52 PM
    By the way, if your main reason for thinking evolution plausible is information technology, I suggest you learn a bit more about biology.

    I consider information science as a good way for me to verify that evolution is mathematically solid.

    I can (and did) code algorithms based on evolution theory in order to successfully find solutions to complex problems.

    That does not mean that I think the biological evidence for evolution is insufficient, it's just that the evidence from information science is one that I can completely verify by myself without relying on ANY chain of trust.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #107 - April 05, 2013, 04:26 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on March 20, 2013, 09:56 PM
    Whether the thing is moral or not isn't really the point of contention. Whether or not it is a product of evolution or has any evolutionary advantage is.

    I see.

    Well, I am skeptic towards both ends of the spectrum.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #108 - April 05, 2013, 04:37 PM
    Quote from: Ishina on March 20, 2013, 10:27 PM
    Because the trait wouldn't be "rape". I'd be "dysfunctional brain" or "emotional imbalance" or "extreme anger issues", or other 'traits' that compel someone to seek an extreme outlet such as humiliating or brutalising another person.

    The terminology you are using ("dysfunction" or "imbalance" or "issue") seems to already imply that any "desire to rape" is a deviation from natural instincts... which is what was being questioned to begin with.
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  • Rape culture
     Reply #109 - April 05, 2013, 04:46 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on March 20, 2013, 10:32 PM
    Ok. I still think the distinction is a bit hazy, mainly because it's common for habits or behaviours to be considered as personality traits, but I see your point.

    Yeah, actually, it could just as well be an overlapping effect of two traits: sex drive and aggressiveness.
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