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  • The Unbelievers :)
     OP - March 22, 2013, 01:43 PM

    A new upcoming documentary by Lawrence Krauss and Richard Dawkins.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxDLkoK8vQQ

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • The Unbelievers :)
     Reply #1 - March 22, 2013, 02:37 PM

    Ohhhh...We need more people like these guys.

    ***~Church is where bad people go to hide~***
  • The Unbelievers :)
     Reply #2 - March 22, 2013, 03:49 PM

    have to watch it, I donät have my headphones with me for now

  • The Unbelievers :)
     Reply #3 - March 31, 2013, 06:51 PM

    Ohhhh...We need more people like these guys.


    I disagree. Scientists do harm to the atheist movement in the longterm because their métier is not metaphysics (aka philosophical bullshit). What we need are skilled orators in the vein of Hitchens with firm grounding in history and contemporary politics. Hitchens', admittedly non-scholarly knowledge of islam trumps that of Dawkins and Krauss.
  • The Unbelievers :)
     Reply #4 - March 31, 2013, 09:19 PM

    How do scientists do harm to the atheist movement? The real harm is criticism of religion without knowledge. Scientists are people who promote truth.
  • The Unbelievers :)
     Reply #5 - March 31, 2013, 10:15 PM

    I disagree. Scientists do harm to the atheist movement in the longterm because their métier is not metaphysics (aka philosophical bullshit). What we need are skilled orators in the vein of Hitchens with firm grounding in history and contemporary politics. Hitchens', admittedly non-scholarly knowledge of islam trumps that of Dawkins and Krauss.

     

    The Atheist movement wouldn't even exist if atheist scientists weren't out there promoting science.


    Richard Dawkins' documentaries on evolution are what made me an atheist and his books on science have made lots of other people atheists as well.

    I like Hitchens' views on politics and the social impact of religion but when it comes to talking about the universe and where it all came from Science is where it's at.


    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • The Unbelievers :)
     Reply #6 - April 01, 2013, 12:53 AM

    I disagree. Scientists do harm to the atheist movement in the longterm because their métier is not metaphysics (aka philosophical bullshit). What we need are skilled orators in the vein of Hitchens with firm grounding in history and contemporary politics. Hitchens', admittedly non-scholarly knowledge of islam trumps that of Dawkins and Krauss.


    Well, I partly agree. Partly because their aren't too many public speakers who will spoil you with the oratory magnificence of Hitchens. I also wouldn't say that scientists do "harm" to the atheist movement, because they represent the frontier with which we've rendered religious creationism false, the scientific frontier. They are central to the debate.

    But yeah, there are few things more embarrassing than a scientists lost in the landscapes of philosophy, history and contemporary politics. Not only that, but most scientists are exceptionally pale and dull in their presentations as well. Neill Degrasse Tyson, you are of coursed exempt.

    Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.
  • The Unbelievers :)
     Reply #7 - April 01, 2013, 01:19 AM

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    Neill Degrasse Tyson, you are of coursed exempt.

     

    and you also have to exempt dawkins, krauss, sagan, hawking, Brian Cox,Bill Nye...........

    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • The Unbelievers :)
     Reply #8 - April 01, 2013, 02:30 AM



    this is what happens when they get together..
  • The Unbelievers :)
     Reply #9 - April 01, 2013, 10:54 PM

    How do scientists do harm to the atheist movement? The real harm is criticism of religion without knowledge. Scientists are people who promote truth.


    You just answered your own question. Their profession(s) do not entail ideological advocacy.
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