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  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     OP - April 23, 2013, 07:00 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV0S07EakCs

    at 3:55 he says "the prophet said do not marry first cousins generation after generation"
    (once or twice is ok)

    Does this hadith really exist?
  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #1 - April 23, 2013, 07:54 PM
    It's not in any of the 'standard' sunni Hadith (bukhari or Muslim).

    It is is one of the weaker hadith collections if I remember right.
    But of course it's okay to use something from a weaker narration if it makes the prophet look good.
    And we of course must question the hadith from even a strong collection if it makes the prophet look bad.

    It's a rather brilliant system actually.
  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #2 - April 23, 2013, 07:59 PM
    This guy would have been a cute old granddaddy if he didn't have his beard..
  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #3 - April 23, 2013, 09:33 PM
    It's so annoying how he keeps saying "compared to brothers and sisters". He's not answering his question properly and being quite rude and condescending.
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  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #4 - April 24, 2013, 04:55 PM
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    Is Zakir Naik telling the truth..

     

    No.  Smiley
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  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #5 - April 24, 2013, 09:37 PM
    Bit of a no-brainer, really. grin12
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  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #6 - August 10, 2013, 01:57 AM
    I'm a doctor. Oh really? What is your doctorate in?
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #7 - August 10, 2013, 03:37 AM
    ^

    Medical doctor.  And not a very knowledgeable one either.

    He is one of those stererotypical indian/pakistani guy who went to med school just to get the status of becoming a doctor.  He doesn't know jackshit about biology either judging by his talks on evolution.  He probably just memorized just enough facts and definitions to pass his medicine exams.
    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #8 - August 10, 2013, 03:39 AM
    So it may as well be a doctorate in cheese making then,
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #9 - August 10, 2013, 04:10 AM
    Zakir Naik = facepalm

    I like his earnestness but I don't like his incessant need to "prove" other religions wrong. First of all, because it's impossible, belief is a matter of faith. 2nd of all, it's too combative "Hey come here, let me tell you why your religion sucks and why mine is the truth"
  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #10 - August 22, 2013, 04:35 PM
    As a Western MD I must say that Mr. Naik is mostly right with this statement. But the problem is that many families in Islam countries have had their sons and daughters marry a cousin for tens of generations, and there the inbreeding process becomes extremely harmful  finmad
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  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #11 - August 22, 2013, 05:24 PM
    i understand repeated cousin marriage is bad, but i have never seen a hadith to that effect, As ZN claims
  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #12 - August 22, 2013, 08:50 PM
    seriously if they go on with the cousin marriage they will finish to be like this                                                               
  • Re: Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #13 - August 22, 2013, 09:39 PM
    Quote from: kutta on April 23, 2013, 07:59 PM
    This guy would have been a cute old granddaddy if he didn't have his beard..

    He would be creepy granddaddy, beard or no beard. The guy is utter buffoon.
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  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #14 - August 26, 2013, 07:39 PM
    To be perfectly honest, reading the title 'Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about...' I couldn't help but instinctively think 'no'.
  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #15 - August 26, 2013, 08:16 PM
    Quote from: Ram on August 22, 2013, 09:39 PM
    He would be creepy granddaddy, beard or no beard. The guy is utter buffoon.


    A buffoon that ahs held millions of Muslims enthralled for well over a decade and whose word is considered sacrosanct by many. Now there's a scary thought.

    Hamza Tzortzis only dreams of the kind of adoration Naik receives.
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  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #16 - August 26, 2013, 08:31 PM
    He's just using divergenary tactics by continuously referring to brother sister marriage instead of first cousin marriage and by comparing having high blood pressure to diabetes.

    What a twat.
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  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #17 - August 26, 2013, 08:44 PM
    Quote from: dr_sloth on April 23, 2013, 07:00 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV0S07EakCs

    at 3:55 he says "the prophet said do not marry first cousins generation after generation"
    (once or twice is ok)

    Does this hadith really exist?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUDWix67PKA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_njFl4BhcM

    That Indian fellow is a Muslim  charlatan  of South Asia . He preaches Islamic Quackery to subcontinent Muslims whose brains are thoroughly  washed with Islam right from the age of two..

    700 children born with genetic disabilities due to cousin marriages every year In ENGLAND  


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    More than 700 children are born with genetic diseases every year as a result of cousin marriages, an investigation has found.  The problem is worst among children born in Britain's Pakistani community, where more than half of marriages are between first cousins, and children are 10 times more likely than the general population to suffer genetic disorders. ....


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WYMRaWnQvU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2KLbNiBj5U

    Zakir Joker  will never accept  Islam is wrong, Quran is wrong and he is wrong . For many of these irrational fools preaching Islam is there bread and butter without which they can not have food on the table.
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  • Is Zakir Naik telling the truth about cousin marriages
     Reply #18 - August 27, 2013, 09:10 PM
    zakir joker  Cheesy
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