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  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #120 - August 09, 2013, 06:09 PM
    Also?
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #121 - August 09, 2013, 06:29 PM
    Never heard of those two prophetess before.
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #122 - August 09, 2013, 06:33 PM
    Islam likes to keep things to islam good everything else bad. Not surprising you haven't heard of them. Did you read through the seeker's rants thread? Curious to know what you make of it. Sometimes a little repetitive but there is some variety  Smiley
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #123 - August 09, 2013, 06:43 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on August 09, 2013, 06:09 PM
    Also?


    lol…I have no idea what else I was planning on saying. I’m doing like 17 things at once right now. Grin
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #124 - August 09, 2013, 06:46 PM
    If the seeker thread keeps on going there is something I'm curious about. He said having sex with a 9 year old is wrong. Slavery is wrong. But it took the kind of thinking he finds perverse to lead us to this point. This 36 second clip sums it up for me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGFS_hkHfCc
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #125 - August 09, 2013, 07:00 PM
    I used to think slavery is okay back in the day,that it was normal at that time,but now I think it's just wrong,also for having sex with a 9 year old,I don't care what other people say about how girls hit puberty earlier at that time and were able to have sex,it feels wrong and it is wrong,especially that he was in his fiftees and in some hadith she fucking played with dolls.I still remember mentioning it to my mom and she just replied with : don't go down that road ..
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #126 - August 09, 2013, 07:01 PM
    Don't go down that road. You might use your brain.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #127 - August 09, 2013, 07:07 PM
    Exactly Cheesy
    Muslims keep preaching Islam for having morals and giving human rights,jews and christians do the same when religion doesn't do that at all,if god is merciful and peaceful why didn't he ban slavery and war and violence .... It just seems fucked up.
    And also on the subject there's a pedophilia case in Morocco about a spanish guy who raped little kids from 3-15 and still people are praising Mo.
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #128 - August 09, 2013, 07:18 PM
    This is why I don't believe in god.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #129 - August 09, 2013, 07:23 PM
    God just seems human more than anything else
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #130 - August 09, 2013, 07:25 PM
    That's because humans made him up.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #131 - August 09, 2013, 07:31 PM
    Quote from: livelifeoutloud on August 09, 2013, 07:23 PM
    God just seems human more than anything else


    He doesn’t merely seem human, he seems absolutely mad. He is like a heavenly version of Muammar Gaddafi: tyrannical, ruthless, eccentric, self absorbed, and obsessed with power and attention. He considers his realm and his subjects to be his own personal property to either honor or disgrace at whim. If you grovel on the ground and constantly tell him how great he is, he’ll shower you with favors. If you show even the slightest elements of dissatisfaction or dissent he’ll torture you. The guy is a complete madman. If he were real, humanity would do best to muster our forces against him.
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #132 - August 09, 2013, 07:40 PM
    “The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
    ― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #133 - August 09, 2013, 07:44 PM
    All the emotions associated with him are suspiciously human like craziness,wanting to control everyone,jealousy,selfishness.In my opinion,if there was to be a creator we should love and respect him and not fear him,just like the relationship a parent have with their children.
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #134 - August 09, 2013, 07:45 PM
    This is how I imagine him dictating the quran sometimes. Rambling on, repeating the same thing over and over, praising his supporters and threatening his detractors.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRbV8HO4AnQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #135 - August 09, 2013, 07:48 PM
    Fall for the love of me
    Crawl for the love of me
    Drool for the love of my virulent sway
    I grow more master the faster the fear of me.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #136 - August 09, 2013, 07:51 PM
    With the teachings of the quran with the muslims being superior, the non muslims inferior, the right and encouragement to invade, slaughter and enslave, I honestly can't see much difference between the quran and mein kampf..
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #137 - August 09, 2013, 08:02 PM
    I still remember that Gaddafi speech,hilarious Cheesy
    That poem sums it up I guess.Haha except Hitler hated jews only while allah is againt all non-muslims.
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #138 - August 09, 2013, 08:05 PM
    Hitler was against other whites, gays, gypsies, jews, blacks, anything that didn't fall into his definition of perfect German Aryan supremacy. In fact you'd be surprised how many white people he was against and the propaganda that followed.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #139 - August 09, 2013, 08:21 PM
    Yeah he idolized the german aryan gene and hated the rest but most of the people he killed were jews.I also heard he killed the deaf,blind,disabled people in general because they couldn't fight for him.
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #140 - August 09, 2013, 08:24 PM
    All halal shall lead to my palace
    My exotic pleasure temple
    Wherein my court is both gracious and insatiable
    Pure and obscene
    For where pumps the true heart of life
    There too seeps corruption
    And from this my new Eden of pleasure,
    Dark eyes virgins with pale skin and swelling breasts
    Opium and roses weaned on tears and blood
    Will rise up in lust
    And the shadow of my Holy Prophet shalt extend
    Himself across the face of the world

    Love me
    And worship me
    I'll lavish you and ravish you
    Fulfil all wishes and fetishes too

    Many never want to see
    Many never want to know
    The truth behind their fantasies
    Their deepest needs
    Let alone be shown them

    Love me
    And worship me
    I'll nurture you and hurt you too
    Fulfil all wishes for my sad Mohammad

    I'll grant you life beyond your ken
    The envy of all other men
    Whatever vice will make you spend
    Eternity with me

    So the slaughter begins
    Near the torchlight of a frightened village
    Where the rites of unimaginable sin
    And the howling on the wind
    Chills the blood for fear of spillage

    They came from dust and flame
    By the Red Sea on dead shores
    Shrieking claims of blasphemy

    And within a stunning woman
    Summoned to the Holy Prophet
    Statuesque, but living flesh
    Draping beauty about their pagan devils

    The beast was loose and beauty party
    To the horrors of this sonorous whore
    A seducer, Medusa
    A frozen Hecate cloned

    She comes to him
    Like a sandstorm in an hourglass
    A whirlwind of desire
    He is hypnotised
    To think beyond the pale
    Beyond heart-stopping eyes
    And sopping thighs
    He won't fail

    Part of the garden, his dark Eden
    Fed blood by poisoned fronds
    My Holy cause hardened in her wet season
    Treading mud in her slough of despond
    But only now
    A path lies straight before him
    The maze is ploughed half through with hate
    Andpher crop is dripping red

    In her grip on shredded sheets
    Once his fingertips had dug and clutched
    She whispered dreadful things to him

    Her kiss has turned dismissive
    Her glance holds slight contempt
    Instead those eyes burn on the prize
    Of fates she really likes to tempt

    Many thanks to Cof for this Wink

    It was actually happymurtad that brought this to mind with his post on Mo visiting his horror on his capture and enslavement of Saffiyah

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=23145.msg664397#msg664397
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #141 - August 09, 2013, 08:41 PM
    Who wrote this poem ? It's sadly beautiful.I feel so bad for Saffiyah,having your father and husband tortured and murdered and have to sleep with their killer.I can't imagine how she felt,poor girl..
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #142 - August 09, 2013, 08:47 PM
    No, it's actually made of two songs, I changed a few words. Eh just came to mind, thought it might be fun to see if I could change a word or two and see if it fits.

    Ever since I read the post by happymurtad, I've been reminded it on several occasions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-BkAeC9QpQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7Gf0pftpM
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #143 - August 09, 2013, 08:53 PM
    I have no idea how anything I wrote could have inspired that. It was pure genius nonetheless.
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #144 - August 09, 2013, 08:55 PM
    Eh, they've had better songs. Used to be mad about this band when I was younger. Still like some of their songs.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #145 - August 09, 2013, 09:00 PM
    Never heard of this band before,both songs are amazing and beautifully written,I like it even though this kind of music gives me headaches haha
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #146 - August 09, 2013, 09:26 PM
    I heard about this band when I was 15, there was a documentary on them by some religious people for being evil. The charges were painting a negative portrayal of religion. One example was from a song, I'll have to look it up but I remember the lines "Preaching peace and mercy beneath the shadow of the knife. A papal reign of terror, slaughter in the name of Christ."

    Another was delighting in sex and love, and praise for Lilith. Which made me look into Lilith lol. Fascinating jewish story, it might have once been in the torah but I can't recall. Another was the blasphemous content by pointing out the hypocrisy of religion, I think the writer worded it.

    Like I said I'm not sure if this was in the torah at some point or came from somewhere else but I'll work on what I know from memory.

    In the beginning, god created the first humans, Adam and Lilith. He created both of them from clay. Adam tried to force her to be submissive and when she refused he turned to god for help. God commanded Lilith to submit to Adam, and Lilith replied something along the lines of "Did you not create us both from the earth? Am I not equal to Adam?" God said no, that she must live as second to Adam, so Lilith chose to leave the garden of Eden rather than live as a slave. She rose into the sky and was stopped by an angel, I think it was Gabriel but would have to double check. He ordered her back, she refused and they both ended up having sex for some reason. After she seduced the angel she continued to make her own way in the world. For this she was cursed. In popular culture she's sometimes portrayed as the mother of demons, or a succubus, and to this day some still have a charm to ward her off. If memory serves she's blamed for causing women to lose their babies, men ejaculating in their sleep, and other things.

    After creating woman the same way as man and having woman rebel, god took a rib from Adam and made Eve, the mother of the human race. God made Eve from Adam's rib so as she came from man she would serve and obey man as second. Can't have women thinking for themselves after all

    So yeah, woman wants to live her own life, gets turned into a demon, and when some people come along, decide she wasn't that bad and write songs and poetry praising sex strength and femininity, they get religious people in a huff.

    What the fuck is it with the abrahamic religions and their absolute TERROR of women?
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #147 - August 09, 2013, 10:00 PM
    I didn't know Lilith even existed,it's not mentionned anywhere in any holy book.
    I used to watch this tv series about mary and her life and this jew priest said that the torah was written for men and not for women  Cheesy
    I don't really know why they fear women,it's always pictured like females are some kind of poison,I guess it's because if they give enough education to women they'll be able to rule any country just as fairly as a man.
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #148 - August 09, 2013, 10:14 PM
    Artists who write songs and poetry with lines like "The sublimest creature, the Gods full of fire would marvel at making their Queen",  "Infusing the air with Her fragrant desire, And my heart reeled with grave poetry", "Whose beauty fostered poets, Whose laugh like silver bells, Thawed your bitter winter from my path", "Pour the emerald wine into crystal glasses, We will touch the divine, Through kisses catharsis" and "Beauty slept and angels wept For Her immortal soul. In this repose, all evil chose to claim her for their very own" are obviously wrong because the torah/bible/quran teaches women are this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyS3weMlxLA

    See? If you're female you're evil. Praising the feminine rather than making her kneel at your feet is wicked. God said so.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Hi ! Im not an atheist ... yet
     Reply #149 - August 09, 2013, 10:23 PM
    God's reasoning is fucked up
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