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  • Your first time...
     Reply #30 - September 17, 2013, 12:15 AM

    devilsadvokat, I've had a few things going on and didn't get a chance, sorry. I think my first reaction was the same as Berbs.
    It's not that I didn't think it was true, it was more the way you put it. I could imagine a comedian on stage saying it like that. Sorry if it came across disrespectfully.


    Apologies accepted chief. I usually tend to be a liitle verbose and decided on the joke format to keep it short. And that is the way I tell them. Afro

    Lol @ being ginger. You have a little but enough idea of what it is like?

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Your first time...
     Reply #31 - September 17, 2013, 12:55 AM

    Heh. Devisadvokat, I always have to read your posts out loud to follow them. That’s not a bad thing. I can just tell form your posts what your speaking style must be like. Written words don’t do it justice.


    If we are to bond fella lol I will call you HM, why not call me DA, better then spelling the moniker wrong lol. You have always read my posts out aloud to follow them!! That is not good because people won't understand what I am on about, I ask questions, need answers, no one is going to reply if they don't follow. here I was thinking I was not getting grief/praise for certain posts was because a) I am weird  b) I am old  c) I put forward good arguments with substance that stand alone. Though sometimes I do go cryptic. FFS I have now go and edit various 'contentious' posts to make more sense so I can get a reaction. Or perhaps just like the Quran my words need to read out aloud. Lol

    What is 'speaking style'?  Never heard of it, and as I sometimes do write as I speak, you can judge my speaking style to be that good that the written word cannot do it justice?? I do tend to write more tightly/explanatory when I get pulled up for stuff and when I want to convey gravitas or eloquence but I tend to find in real life that not everyone gets where I am coming from, so I have to explain the basis, kaleidoscope-like if I blow my own trumpet, textual diarrhea apparently to those who don't read out aloud. Lol

    Plus I have always thought I am chatting to people. Perhaps I should start using full stops and conjunctions and sentence construction. ( But I like -the rhythmic flow of dashes/slashes/parenthesis). You are telling me my dashes/slashes/parenthesis do not aid the flow. Hmm. perhaps I should spend time editing afterwards.

    Are these questions better asked in PM's?

     I do realise that people turn round when I start talking in English at any officialdom venue-like, though in real-life (not radio or here) I do tend to beat around the bush a bit lol. Got to give them the basis lol.

    ETA - can changing my written words do justice to my speaking style? Sorry that I may have gone overboard, but I like talking about myself (you may not noticed, people tell me it soon wears off, I am still waiting) lol and not often you get a chance of an intelligent insightful constructive criticism of ones shit, so to speak.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Your first time...
     Reply #32 - September 17, 2013, 03:50 AM

    Got arrested on an airplane, racist stewardess, blah blah blah, not going into details here but you can figure out the general idea.



    Sometimes even the beer is part of the conspiracy.
  • Your first time...
     Reply #33 - September 17, 2013, 04:00 AM

    When I was  growing up, people used to point at us all the time and say "Batoure" or "Oyimbo". Sometimes they would come up and touch our skin or hair. Most people were very nice to us, but the odd person, sometimes in authority made life difficult for us (perhaps because we were arseholes).

    I first heard about racism was when I was at boarding school in England. A triple jumper called Keith Connor spoke of it. How silly, I thought, to dislike someone just because of the colour of their skin.
  • Your first time...
     Reply #34 - September 17, 2013, 04:33 AM

    ^^^Colonial power problems  Cry

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Sometimes even the beer is part of the conspiracy.


    Nope. Stone cold sober.


    fuck you
  • Your first time...
     Reply #35 - September 17, 2013, 05:43 AM

    Do Coors still sponsor right-wing death squads?
  • Your first time...
     Reply #36 - September 17, 2013, 05:45 AM

    I had coors when I was over there. It was like drinking diluted piss.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Your first time...
     Reply #37 - September 17, 2013, 12:38 PM

    Do Coors still sponsor right-wing death squads?


    Wasn't aware Coors did, Coca-Cola has though. Only knew about Coors being boycotted for anti-gay employment policies and union busting, though both boycotts are over now (but they're still non-union).

    fuck you
  • Your first time...
     Reply #38 - September 17, 2013, 12:41 PM

    Coors were big on Central American death squads in the 80s I think.
  • Your first time...
     Reply #39 - September 17, 2013, 12:50 PM

    You have a little but enough idea of what it is like?


    Basically yeah, but even if I never had by nature I look at people as individuals. Growing up I never made judgements about someone as an individual based on their colour. At least nothing more judgemental than "He's a man so he probably has a penis".

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Your first time...
     Reply #40 - September 17, 2013, 01:23 PM

    The general negative vibe towards South Asians in the late 70's and early 80's made me conscience of race differences. The first incident of hatred because of race, that I experienced, happened at a time I lived near a soccer stadium. It was mid 80's, I was playing outside and out of nowhere, a long procession of soccer fans turned up walking towards the stadium. They were probably supporters for the visiting side, taking an unusual route. I stood back, but with a wall behind me and a big crowd in front of me, I could go nowhere. All of a sudden one of the fans looked at me and just said 'fuckin paki' and spat at me, followed by a couple more who were behind him, and they all moved on as if nothing happened. Since that day, I've never been a fan of soccer.
  • Your first time...
     Reply #41 - September 17, 2013, 04:05 PM

    The general negative vibe towards South Asians in the late 70's and early 80's made me conscience of race differences. The first incident of hatred because of race, that I experienced, happened at a time I lived near a soccer stadium. It was mid 80's, I was playing outside and out of nowhere, a long procession of soccer fans turned up walking towards the stadium. They were probably supporters for the visiting side, taking an unusual route. I stood back, but with a wall behind me and a big crowd in front of me, I could go nowhere. All of a sudden one of the fans looked at me and just said 'fuckin paki' and spat at me, followed by a couple more who were behind him, and they all moved on as if nothing happened. Since that day, I've never been a fan of soccer.


    How sickening getting spat on. And it you off soccer for life? Do you play other sports, watch other sports?

    In the OP I write about the time watching the local team in the league, I am 12/13 and with English friends and the home crowd start singing it is better to be a paki than a taff (we were playing Wrexham).


    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Your first time...
     Reply #42 - September 17, 2013, 04:20 PM

    Probably when I was around 6-8. I was on a school bus, and the driver and the minder were talking. The driver was talking about some robbery/theft, and the minder asked "what colour hair did he have?", driver said "black", minder replied, "oh typical".

    At the time, I was perplexed as to why they cared what colour hair the other person had, and thought little of it. It was only until some years later, I realised it was code for skin colour.

    Having said that I haven't experienced overt racism personally here in the UK (middle eastern background) thankfully. While it is a largely tolerant society, I am aware it does exist.


    This is new to me. Hair colour being code for skin colour. Anyone else with this code? or other codes?

    As kids our codes for black boy and white boy was the literal word in Punjabi. We only realised that we needed new code words (in Punjabi of course) when as a group of us playing arcade games, most likely Donkey Kong, rather than Space Invaders a menacing (to us anyway)black boy approached and we talked in Punjabi but he already knew the trigger word and confronted us - nothing too serious - we then had to get creative lol.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Your first time...
     Reply #43 - September 17, 2013, 04:23 PM

    Basically yeah, but even if I never had by nature I look at people as individuals. Growing up I never made judgements about someone as an individual based on their colour. At least nothing more judgemental than "He's a man so he probably has a penis".


    Hmm. Sometimes holding stereotypes and prejudices can save you time.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Your first time...
     Reply #44 - September 18, 2013, 11:31 PM

    I have had the reverse happen to me as in I don't look Pakistani so when I moved to London for university, the new independence got to me a bit, long hair, pierced ears, shades 24/7 -( lol I was the first in London, I swear) and clothes that people asked me if I was going to the lenny Kravitz concert (I did not know who he was at the time - low and behold baader mienhoff syndrome/complex struck and saw a poster in the Underground - made me feel good anyway.

    So I walk in the first time to the local halal butchers in Finchley and there are two blokes with their backs to me. Ones chopping meat, the other cleaning his hands. One says to the other 'ay kuder painchaud I ga?' where has this motherfucker (I know, but sister makes no sense in this sense). I keep quiet, I need halal meat. One finshes cleaning his hands and turns round and says 'can I help you sir?' I said ' do choozay please, ik nikka, ik baraa' translated in my lingo to two chickens, one small, one big.

    The guy chopping kept his back to me with the cleaver stuck in the air and matey boy's face in front of me was a picture.

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Your first time...
     Reply #45 - September 19, 2013, 01:15 AM

    Coors were big on Central American death squads in the 80s I think.


    Again, first I've heard of it. I don't doubt they would, but I don't know they actually did-- you got a source or any details? Unlike Coke I don't think Coors has big bottling plants in Latin America, certainly not in the 80s I wouldn't think, so unlike Coke who had a direct interest in right-wing death squads (used them to torture and kill union activists at their bottling plants in Colombia at least 9 times), I don't see the interest in Coors doing it despite being owned by an ideological hard right-winger.

    fuck you
  • Your first time...
     Reply #46 - September 19, 2013, 02:39 AM

    I don't see the interest in Coors doing it despite being owned by an ideological hard right-winger.

    There are ideological hard right-wingers who talk it and those who walk it.

    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fyzsTGPTkOIC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=the+coors+connection+latin+american+death+squads&source=bl&ots=KkTwjwio7l&sig=tzrRratYisNPAN82k61UM-jAyL8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JWM6UvTCNcWZiQf5qIB4&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20coors%20connection%20latin%20american%20death%20squads&f=false
  • Your first time...
     Reply #47 - September 19, 2013, 02:41 AM

    Thanks Dave.

    fuck you
  • Your first time...
     Reply #48 - September 19, 2013, 03:34 AM

    Pleasure, Colonel.

    (But I suddenly go deaf when people call me 'Dave'.)
  • Your first time...
     Reply #49 - September 19, 2013, 03:39 AM

    Ok den Davey Tongue

    fuck you
  • Your first time...
     Reply #50 - September 19, 2013, 04:43 AM

    Acceptable, but only my sisters call me Davey.

    Yo up for sistahood?
  • Your first time...
     Reply #51 - September 19, 2013, 12:06 PM

    Idk about coors, but having the three K's and the two klansmen holding the veni vedi veci banner does not stop me from smoking Marlboro Red. I am not black or live in America. I suppose most American companies of a certain age had some sorta link to the right-wingers. A bit like certain German companies having a link to the Nazis.


    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Your first time...
     Reply #52 - September 19, 2013, 02:02 PM

    HM if you passing by

    Just to make clear, Idk why I have to but speaking-style wise, in real life I do not use the following words

    Lol
    Sorta
    Gonna
    Wanna
    Mees
    Youse
    Per se
    So to speak

    Those are the ones that come to mind first.

    ETA -ok
     anyways
    summat

    I am my own worst enemy and best friend, itsa bit of a squeeze in a three-quarter bed, tho. Unhinged!? If I was a dog I would be having kittens, that is unhinged. Footloose n fancy free, forced to fit, fated to fly. One or 2 words, 3 and 3/thirds, looking comely but lonely, till I made them homely.D
  • Your first time...
     Reply #53 - September 20, 2013, 02:24 AM

    Idk about coors, but having the three K's and the two klansmen holding the veni vedi veci banner does not stop me from smoking Marlboro Red.

    Good taste is quite enough to stop you drinking Coors.
  • Your first time...
     Reply #54 - September 20, 2013, 02:36 AM

    Indeed.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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