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  • My friend started reading the quran
     OP - September 12, 2013, 12:35 AM
    I have an agnostic/atheist friend who started reading the quran very recently.

    After I advised him that Mr. Bean's translation would be preferable to Rashad khalifa's (he was reading about 'the miracle of 19' in the introduction of his quran), he started reading one of the more regular translations, and within a day, reached his conclusion:

    "The Qur'an is so boring and repetitive. Bible much more entertaining."






  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #1 - September 12, 2013, 12:47 AM
    The OT is entertaining as hell mostly because it's amoral or immoral.
    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #2 - September 12, 2013, 01:14 AM
    Quote from: dr_sloth on September 12, 2013, 12:35 AM
    I have an agnostic/atheist friend who started reading the quran very recently.

    After I advised him that Mr. Bean's translation would be preferable to Rashad khalifa's (he was reading about 'the miracle of 19' in the introduction of his quran), he started reading one of the more regular translations, and within a day, reached his conclusion:

    "The Qur'an is so boring and repetitive. Bible much more entertaining."

     Cheesy It really is.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #3 - September 12, 2013, 01:18 AM
    Have to agree with his conclusion, though the only bible I'll read is the King James version. Some of the passages really are quite lovely. Still, I'll continue to get my morality from the best source. Spider-Man Afro
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #4 - September 12, 2013, 01:21 AM
    Lovely KJV passages parrot
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #5 - September 12, 2013, 03:39 PM
    Your friend is correct.
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #6 - September 12, 2013, 03:40 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on September 12, 2013, 01:18 AM
    Have to agree with his conclusion, though the only bible I'll read is the King James version. Some of the passages really are quite lovely. Still, I'll continue to get my morality from the best source. Spider-Man Afro


    I can't read shakespearan English so can't understand the KJV.
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #7 - September 12, 2013, 07:33 PM
    Qur'an is a much more interesting read if you start with the last surah and work backwards.
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #8 - September 14, 2013, 05:29 AM
    Quote from: C1981 on September 12, 2013, 03:40 PM
    I can't read shakespearan English so can't understand the KJV.


    That is fucking tragic.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #9 - September 14, 2013, 02:29 PM
    Haha, that was what I thought when I first started reading the Quran, but as a believer I suppressed those thoughts and painfully forced myself through the whole thing.
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #10 - September 14, 2013, 11:58 PM
    The beauty and genius of the quran is not really in its message or in its content, it's in its recitation. Muhammad (or whoever wrote the quran) was a great composer and lyricist. It's the power of the sound and style of the recited words, coupled with their dramatic and over the top appeals to the divine and the hereafter, that make the quran compelling in my opinion. All of that is totally lost in translation, so the message just ends up standing naked for what it is.

    It's kinda like that really catchy song that you love on the radio until you hear what they are actually saying. I remember thinking that a while back when I finally read the lyrics to "Semi Charmed Life" a while back.  Cheesy

    With the quran though, since the subject matter is god and heaven and hell and all that sort of stuff, the style and recitation can be quite moving, especially when you already believe it's from god.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K6k-sjgf2g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #11 - September 15, 2013, 09:23 AM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on September 14, 2013, 05:29 AM
    That is fucking tragic.


    Right? I'm North-African, never lived abroad and learned English as my THIRD language, and I can read most of that shit.
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #12 - September 15, 2013, 09:38 AM
    That's impressive.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #13 - September 15, 2013, 05:49 PM
    Quote from: Naerys on September 15, 2013, 09:23 AM
    Right? I'm North-African, never lived abroad and learned English as my THIRD language, and I can read most of that shit.


    I never read the KJV until a few years ago. That's why I don't read shakespearan English, unless we count The Nicene Creed, The Apostles Creed, and The Lord's Prayer which I do know fairly well in old English.
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #14 - September 16, 2013, 10:22 PM
    Most Elizabethan English isn't much different to modern English. If you can understand most modern English dialects when they are spoken, you should be able to read Shakespeare with a little effort. If you're one of those Murricans who thinks English is what is spoken in Arkansas, and whose brain shuts down whenever a Cockney starts speaking in a Guy Ritchie film, there's no hope for you. Smiley
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #15 - September 16, 2013, 11:25 PM
    I'm from the North.
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #16 - September 17, 2013, 06:09 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on September 16, 2013, 10:22 PM
    whose brain shuts down whenever a Cockney starts speaking in a Guy Ritchie film


     Cheesy
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #17 - September 17, 2013, 06:46 AM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on September 15, 2013, 09:38 AM
    That's impressive.

    Naerys is impressive.

    (That's a fulle stoppe by the way, not a period.)
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #18 - September 17, 2013, 08:15 AM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on September 17, 2013, 06:09 AM
    Cheesy

    grin12 I thought it was awesome when some Yanks were saying they needed subititles in his next film, so instead he just put pikeys in with no subtitles. Way to go.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • My friend started reading the quran
     Reply #19 - September 17, 2013, 01:08 PM
    Quote from: C1981 on September 16, 2013, 11:25 PM
    I'm from the North.

    *Hi 5 for fellow Northerner*
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