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  • Why did you become Muslim?
     OP - November 09, 2013, 08:41 PM

    Ex-Hijabi asked me a questions which made me think of making this post.

    Why did you become Muslim? Why did you convert/revert? Or if you have always been Muslim what made you start practising?

    I know some of the people in here have quite strong emotions of hatred about the religion, we have read your stories of the straw that broke the camels back and why you left, but I was curious what got you there in the first place, do you remember? Where was your sense and logic at the time? How long were you in that mind frame?

    Don't blank thread me now!

    "Make anyone believe their own knowledge and logic is insufficient and you'll have a puppet susceptible to manipulation."
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #1 - November 09, 2013, 09:14 PM

    Well my family are Seyyids so because we are from the prophet's bloodline (allegedly). So I always tried to be more muslim because of it. I also would point to that if I ever got something correct, did something right, or if anything good would happen to me. I thought it was god who was pointing his finger and saying be.

    Tell people that there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you.

    Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.
    - George Carlin
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #2 - November 09, 2013, 11:12 PM

    How long were you practising for? Was it because your family were practising or just because you knew you were supposedly from the prophets bloodline?

    "Make anyone believe their own knowledge and logic is insufficient and you'll have a puppet susceptible to manipulation."
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #3 - November 10, 2013, 02:35 AM

    I became Muslim because of a ridiculous mystical experience. My husband at the time was Muslim, and a pretty nice guy. It was easy. I liked (perversely) having rules for every stupid thing. It seemed more reassuring than annoying for a long time.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #4 - November 10, 2013, 03:05 AM

    Islam was forced upon me as a child but my parents did convinced me at one point. As a child, I once believed in Allah, his messages, the prophets, angels and all of the miracles that are associated with Islam. There was never love behind it; I believed in it but I extremely despised it all due to the immoral characteristics of Allah and the prophets of Islam, the violations of human rights, and the duty behind Islam. At the time when I was extremely irrational and had no knowledge of science or philosophy, I was extremely terrified of the afterlife (hell) so it was the only reason why I couldn't leave Islam. It made me try to love and practice Islam more but thankfully that fear dissipated once I discovered the concept of atheism or other philosophical ideas. Science is what concreted my beliefs.
    I've been a closeted atheist for at least 9-10 years (I'm 19) so I left Islam pretty young.

    turnipovich
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #5 - November 10, 2013, 10:22 AM

    I was practicing to one degree or another, for about 3 years. I was also a Fundamentalist for about half a year.

    Tell people that there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you.

    Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.
    - George Carlin
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #6 - November 10, 2013, 01:52 PM

    Islam was pretty much shoved down my throat as a child, i was forced to attend madrassah classes which I hated. I did believe in god then, mainly because of the fear of hell and the afterlife, but never in Islam, the so called miracles and prophets just seemed like a load of bs. I wasn't much of a practicing Muslim, I fasted during Ramadan, but I don't think I've ever prayed properly once. I found it pointless and such a bother.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #7 - November 10, 2013, 03:04 PM

    I was a raised in a religious household and was only shown the nice version of Islam. I had so many questions though but was taught that questioning was a bad thing, so I forced myself to let it go. And for a long time I sincerely believed in God and Islam but then I realized that the only thing actually keeping in the religion was the fear of hell and eternal damnation.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #8 - November 10, 2013, 07:05 PM

    I was born Muslim, never became obviously. My parents have projected on me a very bad image of Islam, because the Islam that I've experienced was the islam of fears and threats..
    "i'm a girl and i have to submit" this is what they taught me
    Never could really appreciate it
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #9 - November 10, 2013, 07:07 PM

    You were born a muslim? That is so cool. How did the doctors react when you said "There is no god but allah and muhammad is his messenger" as soon as you came out the womb? Was it recorded? Could make a fortune, a talking newborn.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #10 - November 10, 2013, 07:10 PM

    lool well XD born in a muslim family
     Cheesy
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #11 - November 10, 2013, 10:06 PM

    You were born a muslim? That is so cool. How did the doctors react when you said "There is no god but allah and muhammad is his messenger" as soon as you came out the womb? Was it recorded? Could make a fortune, a talking newborn.


    They actually said "bismallah Ar Rahman Ar Raheim".

    Tell people that there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you.

    Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.
    - George Carlin
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #12 - November 10, 2013, 10:13 PM

    @ three, would you be comfortable to share your mystical experience?


    Quite a few people have negative experiences from childhood are your parents quite practising or cultural? Are they still now?

    "Make anyone believe their own knowledge and logic is insufficient and you'll have a puppet susceptible to manipulation."
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #13 - November 11, 2013, 12:11 AM

    My ridiculous mystical experience was that the first time I saw the Ka'aba on television, I fell down. My knees gave out and I collapsed. DA asked me, if I had seen something else, would I have converted to that? I probably would have, I was so impressed to collapse and not actually faint. I did go through the preliminaries of reading all the apologist literature and asking questions, which of course always came down to "having faith". After some time, that became acceptable to me. Then came convert zeal. Embarrassing, eh?

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #14 - November 11, 2013, 12:52 AM

    They actually said "bismallah Ar Rahman Ar Raheim".


    Lies! It was "Bah weet bah ma weet ninny bah".

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #15 - November 11, 2013, 01:29 AM

    Great thread idea!  Afro

    I was born into a Muslim family. I was shown more of the nice sides but it did have a few things that I found questionable. Thanks (or no thanks?) to both my stubborn nature and fear of god (and hell), I placed all of the gross parts onto my culture rather than Islam. Whenever my dad set up a time for my mom to be back home, I thought it was cultural and not religious. Whenever I found something I hated in school, I thought it was cultural and not religious. Everything sexist I hated was cultural. Or so I thought. It was due to my own lack of knowledge that I stayed a Muslim for so long.  Tongue

    "so now, if you leave (Allahu A?lam is you already have) what will u do??? go out and show ur body to all the men??? sleep with countless men?? maashaAllah if you think think this is freedom or womens right then may Allah guide you to that which is correct."
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #16 - November 11, 2013, 02:23 AM

    Lies! It was "Bah weet bah ma weet ninny bah".


    I would never lie wooferz

    Tell people that there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you.

    Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.
    - George Carlin
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #17 - November 11, 2013, 02:34 AM

    I would never lie wooferz


    ...he says then sets a pack of dogs on me.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #18 - November 11, 2013, 04:41 AM

    ...he says then sets a pack of dogs on me.

    Cute and fluffy dogs

    Tell people that there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you.

    Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.
    - George Carlin
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #19 - November 15, 2013, 10:24 AM

    I wrote I reply yesterday but seems it got lost Smiley

    Well, if I was asked this in the beginning of my conversion I would have given you a whole different answer than if I was asked this a year ago, or even today.

    Due to various philosophical and theological reasons I had come to the conclusion early on that god can only be one, all other religions that did not fulfill my criteria for a monotheistic religion didn't even qualify when I started my search for god. I even left Christianity at the age of 14 because of these reasons. I came in contact with Islam, and the nature of god (minus all the negative stuff you didn't know or think about in the beginning) really appealed to me. I had a "religious epiphany" and felt the "sweetness of imaan". I really felt that allah had given me special guidance because I really wanted to be guided to the "straight path". And since Islam was the religion that seemed the most "natural" (which it isn't!), it had to be it.

    Fastforward a couple of years and I started reflecting on the psychological reasons for my need of religion. During that time in my life, I felt completely detached from what I deemed to be a meaningless and superficial life of my peers. I felt depressed and wanted god to "save" me. I was spiritually starving and just wanted to know the purpose and meaning of life, what am I doing here and what does god want from me? (Of course, I couldn't delve on the thaught that god does not exist). Fastforward some more years, and I have realized that it was my need of unconditional love that really drove me to "find" god (ironically, unconditional love is not given by god), this is why I couldn't even think about the thaught that perhaps we are alone in the universe (or at least, alone in the sense that there isn't a trancendent all powerfull being watching over us).

    I was the middle child who always went unnoticed. I was the quiet one, good at school who never made any fuss or problems. In the middle between older and younger siblings who were much more... "demanding"... my mother often "forgot" about me (even though I know she loves me dearly). So I turned to god instead (if I wasn't raised in a conservative home, and didn't have a strong spiritual side, it could have been sex and drugs). I come from a somewhat dysfunctional family, and I think my upbringing shaped me to be more prone to "order" and "rules" in order to feel comfortable. For me, a religion almost had to have some "order" and "rules" to feel "right".

    It took me about two years after my conversion to fully practice islam because I lived at home and had a constant "war" with my family about my new faith. Eventually I got kicked out, and it was at that point my radical and fundamentalist period began. About a year or two after that I started to "cool" off, and at the beginning of this years my doubts had grown to the extent that a month or so before Ramadan, I renounced Islam. Two incidients, even though they might seem insignificant when looking at the bigger picture, made me take those last step it took me to apostize. They were the "last straw" so to speak. One was an incident during a discussion about FGM and circumcision, I am of course a staunch opponent even though I was "confused" (cognitive dissonance, folks) since the least one can say in Islam is that circumcision is permissable, but the sisters could only say "I do not have an opinion, I have to study more about it in the Islamic texts" and "if the text is saheeh, then we accept it". Fucking idiots. It was also then I cut all ties with these "rightous sisters". Then, after some weeks, I came across the "monkey-stoning" hadith and I just thaught to myself "what the fuck am I doing?!".

    So that is a somewhat summarized version of why I converted and why I eventually decided it was a big mistake  cool2



    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #20 - November 15, 2013, 11:37 AM

    Was it because your family were practising or just because you knew you were supposedly from the prophets bloodline?

    whoops forgot to answer this Cheesy

    But its because I didn't want to look bad in front of god

    Tell people that there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you.

    Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure.
    - George Carlin
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #21 - November 16, 2013, 10:48 AM

    @ Cornflower, I think I have quite a similar experience, though some differences in the details.

    I was baptised catholic as a child, my mothers family from a catholic background and my Dad was culturally Asian Muslim. I had a bit of both religions from my grandmothers on both sides, but my parents never really put emphasis on it, it didn't really matter. I wasn't in contact with my dad's side of the family for a large majority of growing up till my late teens, so I considered myself as a Christian, partly because I lived with my uncle for a while and though not religious in the way they conducted themselves, we went church every sunday. My mum never felt the need for me to have my communion and all the rest, I left Catholicism in my teens, and thought of myself as without religion but I still believed in God, Christianity didn't make sense to me, it was just a cross around my neck, I didn't believe the priest could bless me or that he had a higher status than me, and then the three in one didn't make sense to me either, all the intermediaries, praying to jesus to pray to God, or talking to dead family members to get them to talk to God cos they are up there, or saints, priests, blah blah... Just didn't make sense to me. I considered myself as agnostic for most of my teens but kind of wore a cross as a good luck charm.  

    I was dating a Muslim and he was culturally Muslim himself so he didn't know much about his religion, but he knew that when he was older he wanted to be religious. So I used to research this stuff for him, on his behalf and tell him what he is allowed and not allowed to do. We'd argue about it a lot but I still thought it was bullshit at the time but I respected it and all religions, and perceived it as a good thing to be close to God in whatever form. I was a religious agnostic if that makes sense, I would pray every night, to the creator, and for him to guide me if there was a path to follow. In the meantime anything I found from different religions that I liked, I thought was beneficial or that made sense to me I would adopt. For example I really wanted a tattoo, so I checked what the major religions said and concluded that the majority don't exactly agree with it so I didn't. So in this multi-religious time, I also stopped eating pork because of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, fasting in Ramadan, trying to abstain from intimacy, and I just generally had never been too fond of alcohol, only had it on birthdays, Christmas and new year and eventually that stopped as well because I have control issues and would never let myself get drunk anyway. So then dude leaves me, because the things i was making him aware of in his religion and I'm not Muslim and so he couldn't marry me. I was back in contact with my Dad at this point and he more or less denounced religion, not that he ever followed it. I was in my final year at uni, and as a rebound I starting seeing another Muslim guy who had been pestering me for a while but nothing serious. He was the most unreligious guy so when he turns around and decides he is going to Palestine, comes back with a fully grown beard and wasn't perfect but tried to refrain from things he shouldn't so he was still seeing me, and another girl. Then a couple of my other friends were going through a similar thing were they started to take religion seriously. This guy I was seeing didn't directly preach to me, but he'd tell me about how he's preaching to the other girl, so we'd discuss it sometimes, I was in slight awe of him, because I hadn't known anyone that willingly goes into warzones to help people and the mad stuff he was doing to raise money. He mentioned something about people always ask for signs in out of the ordinary miracles, waiting for writing in the sky and miss the signs they are being given everyday. If you've heard of the story of the man who was stranded in the sea praying for God to help, 3 boats came by and he said no to all of them because God was going to save him, he died, he asked God why he didn't save him, and he said he sent three boats but he refused them all. So I started to think were there signs? A lot of people I knew had started practising Islam, his other female friend converted and I heard of one other, no other religion was being shown to me, a lot of the religious things I had cherry picked were from Islam, so I thought it was the sign to look into it deeper. So I started with things I thought would nullify it straight away e.g 4 wives, beating your wife, and it wasn't what I thought it was, I could understand their explanations for it. I then became obsessed with watching lectures it was all I would do in the breaks I had when writing my dissertation, I adopted more things from Islam such as halal meat, getting involved with the political side of things. I loved the character of the Prophet and how Muslims were meant to be, and the last straw for me was watching Yusuf Estes conversion story for some reason, I searched the shahadah and done it with a youtube video.

    Like conrflower my childhood wasn't very stable, which made me feel a need to control things around me, there wasn't a consistent fulfilment of love or emotion, I needed the rules, I needed it as a safety net. I knew what people were allowed or not allowed to do to me. If I had a husband there was rules he had to follow and it was less scary than being with a man that could do anything, because I knew what to expect, I could prepare myself for anything. I also had a relationship with God who loved me, and chose me, so if I never got that from anyone else it was ok, although I did want a new husbands muslim family to love me lol. So for me there was many reasons to convert, unstable family life, I felt God was guiding me, trying to find an identity that I had lost ( I hated the Asian culture so Islam was the alternative even though my family aren't practising, they don't even fast, they just don't eat pork, apart from my grandma and one uncle). My long term bf left me because of it, seeing lots of people turning to it, and it just made sense to me at the time, it didn't have the hierarchy that other religions have, on a surface level you could make sense of it. It didn't seem to have as much ridiculous stuff, maybe I ignored it because I was in awe of the good aspects,  it was a structured way of life rather than believing in odd things. Then when you accept it you accept it all, so you snowball into this individual you don't recognise.  I was also a very depressed person  but while I was a Muslim it was gone, I didn't feel depressed, I felt content and thought that was a clear sign anytime I had doubts, in fact that still makes me question now, because I went about 3 years in a reasonably contented state, it wasn't about being happy, it was about not being depressed, and now I feel depressed again lol.

    Extremely long post lol sorry.

    "Make anyone believe their own knowledge and logic is insufficient and you'll have a puppet susceptible to manipulation."
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #22 - November 17, 2013, 02:12 AM

    no need to apologise, it was a good read. I hope everything turns out well for you, whatever path you take in the end.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #23 - November 17, 2013, 09:05 AM

    I don't think I can recall a point in my life where I became Muslim. Being Muslim was simply natural. Submission to the "Fitra". It wasn't a decision. It was common sense. In fact, its truth seemed so obvious and clear, that I just couldn't fathom how any sane, reasonable person could deny it. I remember viewing a pie-chart which categorized the different religious denominations in terms of population. After noticing that there were people out there that did not adhere to a particular religion or did not believe in a particular God, I was dumbfounded. To me, those people could only have been insane to think that we were just created by nothing or that we had no purpose in our lives (an assumption that was never true in the first place). Even the Hindus were less insane!

    As I grew older, I became attracted to the idea that Islam was not just about blind faith, but was rather about evidence and reason. Being fascinated by the verses that urged you to reflect, Islam was beginning to feel like the most precious of treasures in my life. Who would have thought, after all, that out of billions of people, I would be born to a Muslim household? Who would have thought, that instead of having  to investigate thousands of religions at the risk of being wrong and losing your family, I had the special opportunity to surrender to Allah's Will and attain eternal paradise?

    But then came the questions. Unsurprisingly, the first question that I ever had about Islam was regarding the origins of the Creator. If everything is caused, who created the Creator? "No! Do not ask this question. It can take away your faith." "But God is the First and the Last! There must be a finite beginning! How can you have an infinite chain?" Instead of realizing the entirely unsubstantiated assumption of God escaping this infinite regress, or noticing the sheer uselessness of postulating an even more complex Being to escape this infinite chain, I just listened to them. All I needed was an answer regardless of its merits. All I needed was some sort of confirmation of the beliefs that I was brought up with, knowing deep down inside that being wrong was a seemingly impossible option. Confirmation Bias.

    One question led to another question which led to further questions, until I realized that the only true "Fitra" was doubt. But that's another story altogether.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #24 - November 17, 2013, 07:38 PM



    One question led to another question which led to further questions, until I realized that the only true "Fitra" was doubt. But that's another story altogether.


    Did you tell this part of the story already on here? If not, are you willing to do so?

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #25 - November 18, 2013, 06:01 AM

     Cheesy My story is boring.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #26 - November 19, 2013, 02:00 AM

    So is mine.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #27 - November 19, 2013, 03:07 AM

    My story with islam is a fascinating read. I was in London during the Blitz and after that went on a one man war against the Nazis seeking vengeance. My strength and cunning where legendary, tales of my might spread far and wide. After liberating hundreds of jews from death camps (may allah forgive me my mistakes) I journeyed east. At one point I fell in love with a beautiful woman but she chose a jew over me. Filled with rage and heartache I was comforted by a wise brown man with a funny accent who told me jews are cursed by god, that a rock would come to life and say "O muslim! There is a jew behind me! Come kill him!" and islam just suddenly made sense.

    Reinvigorated, I send word to Berlin about my change of heart and was welcomed most enthusiastically, such a legendary enemy seeing the light. Almost single handily I beat back the kaffir I once called friends and established the Third Reich that, allah willing, shall last a thousand years.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #28 - November 19, 2013, 04:22 AM

    Ah Quod. You killing me, now. I have to go to sleep. You keep it up. I will never, ever, skip over threads again.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Why did you become Muslim?
     Reply #29 - November 19, 2013, 05:14 AM

    My story with islam is a fascinating read. I was in London during the Blitz and after that went on a one man war against the Nazis seeking vengeance. My strength and cunning where legendary, tales of my might spread far and wide. After liberating hundreds of jews from death camps (may allah forgive me my mistakes) I journeyed east. At one point I fell in love with a beautiful woman but she chose a jew over me. Filled with rage and heartache I was comforted by a wise brown man with a funny accent who told me jews are cursed by god, that a rock would come to life and say "O muslim! There is a jew behind me! Come kill him!" and islam just suddenly made sense.

    Reinvigorated, I send word to Berlin about my change of heart and was welcomed most enthusiastically, such a legendary enemy seeing the light. Almost single handily I beat back the kaffir I once called friends and established the Third Reich that, allah willing, shall last a thousand years.


    I am making something special before bed for that because it has some historical significance.

    "Work without hope draws nectar in a sieve, and hope without an object cannot live." -Coleridge

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