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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #30 - December 08, 2013, 05:32 PM
    Here it is guys. Hope I haven't butchered it.

    The unexpected splendour of mere existence itself

    To merely exist is to be, utterly and completely, without the pretence of a priori purpose or meaning, wholly content with the unremarkable ability to breathe, think and live.

    First things first, I am no intellectual. That should become clearer as you read on. Nor do I care to be. I am content with the ability to learn and though my critical thinking skills have increased considerably since departing from the sterilised confines of a doubt free Islamic indoctrination, I can still see there is some way to go before I can comfortably say ‘Aha, now I get it’. But, that being said, I’m in no hurry to get there. I quite enjoy the journey.

    What I will briefly relate are partly reflections of things I’ve observed and part confessions. These are the experiences which have led me to believe that, to abandon most forms of enquiry is in the best interests of most people, to merely exist is all that is to be strived for. This may seem like a peculiar notion. What, no learning? No enquiry? No progress? Actually, I’m in favour of all these things. What I’m in favour of most of all is, yes to sanity.

    You see, there is this need to fulfil a great appetite. Once I was under the spell, a most powerful and wicked enchantment, an enticing charm that should never be underestimated, an illusion so convincing that a world that had never been seen – only spoken of – became more desirable than the world bursting into life all around me. There were answers to be found. Meaning. Purpose. Reward. Redemption. All the important words with their heavy meanings were handed over to me…now there was no need to question. Allah told you everything you needed to know. Once that knowledge had been attained, your only purpose now is to obey. So prostrate servant!

    The rest is here: http://jediapostate.blogspot.co.uk/
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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #31 - December 08, 2013, 06:08 PM
    Lovely.

    Let me edit this. Not lovely. Perfect. I love it.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #32 - December 08, 2013, 06:40 PM
    Thanks. You're too kind a person.
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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #33 - December 09, 2013, 11:12 PM
    Quote from: Jedi on December 05, 2013, 09:10 PM
    What I find most beautiful is that to live my life I don't need to believe in neither God nor try to understand evolution or the way the universe works. I can remain splendidly ignorant of such things and still be happy with the simple things of life: my lover and I, family, work, silly quotes, the movies that I watch, a cloud that looks like a dog, a person tripping over his own foot but not falling so it's okay to laugh. I don't need to delve into the intricacies of evolution or the origins of the universe. Life just is and the moment I accepted that the more happier I became and the happiness is still growing.

    Suffering comes from wanting, from aspirations, desires. I don't need to understand God any more than any other fairytale and I don't need to understand the sciences as a form of a recreational pursuit or academic learning. I can let go of trying to understand and live. Sure, knowing such things may allow me to appreciate things a little bit more but whose to know for sure?

    Have your gods, your philosophy and science. I want life itself. The experience. The thrill. The beauty. All of which can be accessed by mere existence itself.


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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #34 - December 10, 2013, 10:36 AM
    I like Jedi's blog. Just about to read The Right to Doubt Afro
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #35 - December 11, 2013, 03:06 AM
    What did I miss? Where is the Right to Doubt?
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #36 - December 11, 2013, 04:41 AM
    http://righttodoubt.blogspot.co.uk/
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #37 - December 11, 2013, 04:44 AM
    Nice read, Jedi.
    "Work without hope draws nectar in a sieve, and hope without an object cannot live." -Coleridge

    http://sinofgreed.wordpress.com/
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #38 - December 15, 2013, 12:12 PM
    Quote from: moi on December 05, 2013, 12:29 PM
    But who created super allah or did super allah create herself?


    Maybe, but Super Allah can't know with 100% certainty if he was not created by Super Duper Allah, and only thinks he's eternal,  therefore both Allah and Super Allah are impossible, as they can't logically meet their own criteria for being Allah.

    If Allah must be omniscient and omnipotent in order to be Allah, and nothing can be omniscient, and without being omniscient one cant be omnipotent, then it is completely impossible for Allah to exist. And with that God disappears in a poof of smoke, killed by its own logic.


    This in my opinion is the most simple and clear cut refutation of the Allah claim, and I've yet to hear an apologist even attempt address this problem without failing miserably and completely.




    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #39 - December 15, 2013, 07:07 PM
    Coming soon a new comedy cartoon series - the Allahs....
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #40 - December 15, 2013, 07:10 PM
    ^^^^^

    Can't wait. Any previews?
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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #41 - December 15, 2013, 07:12 PM
    Quote from: Quod Sum Eris on December 11, 2013, 04:41 AM
    http://righttodoubt.blogspot.co.uk/


    Wow. I can't  believe I wrote that in 2010. Four years after I 'left' Islam and God.

    I forgot all about that.
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

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  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #42 - December 15, 2013, 07:14 PM
    I have only got to something like this...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX1iplQQJTo
    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Did Allah create himself?
     Reply #43 - December 15, 2013, 07:47 PM
    Quote from: Jedi on December 15, 2013, 07:12 PM
    Wow. I can't  believe I wrote that in 2010. Four years after I 'left' Islam and God.

    I forgot all about that.


    Good stuff. Good points. The closing sentence was gold.
    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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