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 Topic: The psychology of debunking.

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  • The psychology of debunking.
     OP - March 10, 2014, 07:55 PM

    I was reading up on climate change deniers yesterday, and found an interesting resource that discussed how such people (and others) think, and the best debunking tactics to apply when faced with entrenched misinformation.

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    A common misconception about myths is the notion that removing its influence is as simple as packing more information into people’s heads. This approach assumes that public misperceptions are due to a lack of knowledge and that the solution is more information - in science communication, it’s known as the “information deficit model”.

    But that model is wrong: people don’t process information as simply as a hard drive downloading data.

    The relevant resource is here: Skeptical Science - Debunking Handbook

    Although the focus of the handbook is climate change denial, it's obvious that the same debunking methods would be applicable to a lot of other myths.

    That would include conspiracy theories, which turn out to be strongly connected to science denial in general. Back when I used to argue with Christian young earth creationists I noticed they were often fixated on conspiracy threories, because they had no other way of explaining how scientists came up with the conclusion that the earth isn't 6,000 years old. It had to be a conspiracy.

    It turns out that conspiracy theories are also strongly linked with climate change denial. There's an awesome little paper that demonstrates this wonderfully well. The story is that a few people decided to do a survey on the attitudes of climate change deniers. This survey was posted online on a range of sites, and the results collated and analysed and published as a paper.

    That paper is here: NASA faked the moon landing - Therefore (Climate) Science is a Hoax: An Anatomy of the Motivated Rejection of Science.
    It showed that conspiracy theory thinking was rife among deniers. So far, so good.

    The really funny bit, and the nail in the coffin, is what happened when this paper was published. Not surprisingly, the deniers took geat offence and basically flipped out. Some other researchers figured this would probably happen, so had things set up so they could do a real-time study of the reaction to the first paper.

    You can read the second paper here: Recursive fury: Conspiracist ideation in the blogosphere in response to research on conspiracist ideation

    It really is funny. grin12

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  • The psychology of debunking.
     Reply #1 - March 10, 2014, 08:03 PM

    Those articles look interesting. I think it should be noted that debunking the theories of conspiracy nuts and religious fanatics is a little different than debunking popular religion. For that, I would recommend A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian.
  • The psychology of debunking.
     Reply #2 - March 10, 2014, 08:06 PM

    Noice.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • The psychology of debunking.
     Reply #3 - March 10, 2014, 08:07 PM

    The first one (the Debunking Handbook) doesn't just focus on conspiracy nutters. It's mainly about fundamental modes of thinking that are shared by a lot of normal people, but which are counterintuitive and you may not expect to encounter. For instance, it turns out that normal people instinctively prefer an incorrect model to an incomplete one.

    ETA: In fact I thought it was as useful for pointing out possible pitfalls in my own thinking as it was for dealing with other people.

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  • The psychology of debunking.
     Reply #4 - March 10, 2014, 08:09 PM

    Hmm, I thought it worked such that, as long as the wanted conclusion was still in play, any placeholder reason/model would do.

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  • The psychology of debunking.
     Reply #5 - March 10, 2014, 08:14 PM

    Can be that way with some, but this is more about how normal people, who aren't strongly committed, tend to process things.

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    When people hear misinformation, they build a mental model, with the myth providing an explanation. When the myth is debunked, a gap is left in their mental model.

    To deal with this dilemma, people prefer an incorrect model over an incomplete model. In the absence of a better explanation, they opt for the wrong explanation.

    The point being that it's critically important not to leave them hanging, or they'll just (sincerely) stick with the bullshit.

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  • The psychology of debunking.
     Reply #6 - March 11, 2014, 12:26 AM

    Great stuff.
  • The psychology of debunking.
     Reply #7 - March 11, 2014, 12:31 AM

    Can be that way with some, but this is more about how normal people, who aren't strongly committed, tend to process things.

    I read it wrong. For some reason I thought you said that normal people instinctively prefer an incorrect model. Dunno why the rest of the sentence didn't register.

    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • The psychology of debunking.
     Reply #8 - March 11, 2014, 02:17 PM

     Cheesy Love it.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
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