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 Topic: 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up

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  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #30 - May 18, 2014, 01:45 PM

    .........................

    Personally, I’m not very optimistic for the Muslim world – at least not in my lifetime – but I am a bit optimistic for Muslims in the West.  


    Oh common Al-Alethia ., I am very optimistic., The so-called Muslim world will change., it is just we need to put a computer in the hands of every Muslim kid.....  that is it., one generation is enough to change..

    You are so pessimistic., I ask you  why? did you had fight with your sister?   stop it.. stop fighting..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #31 - May 18, 2014, 01:49 PM

    it is just we need to put a computer in the hands of every Muslim kid

    And they will come across Salafi and Wahabbi sites and learn jihad and the likes, and Al-Alethia will no longer quarrel with her sister. Very good idea Yeez Smiley.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #32 - May 18, 2014, 01:56 PM

    ...........
    And they will come across Salafi and Wahabbi sites and learn jihad and the likes, ...........

    well that is all right., but THEY WILL ALSO COME ACROSS millions of Rubayas, Al-Alethia, confused Daganos, toors, allats, Ishinas, berberellas  and many more.. 

    what all we need to do is "KEEP  THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION ALIVE AND PROTECT IT "

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #33 - May 18, 2014, 02:00 PM

    If they came across millions of Ishinas I'd think they wouldn't be brave enough for the internet for very long.  hiding
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #34 - May 18, 2014, 02:06 PM

    If they came across millions of Ishinas I'd think they wouldn't be brave enough for the internet for very long.  hiding

    that is enough,  JOB IS DONE lua  

    Make the rascals timid and create few more Ishinas, luas and may other freedom loving folks of CEMB...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #35 - May 18, 2014, 02:14 PM

    "barbarism of Spanish Inquisition and the Witch hunts"

    infinite_del we need to open a thread on that put some details of those heinous crimes of so-called Christians..   We need to get real numbers on that  such as

    1) How many witches were burnt by who and when?

    2). How many people were killed by who and when..?

    watch this guy carefully see what he says on that  Spanish Inquisition and on that  Witch hunts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63zdL1S5qeY

    So counter such arguments we need to get some facts....


    Good idea Yeez, you go ahead and start it, ill be right behind you asleep. Wake me up when you are done so i can read it  Wink
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #36 - May 18, 2014, 02:24 PM

    Good idea Yeez, you go ahead and start it, ill be right behind you asleep. Wake me up when you are done so i can read it  Wink

    yes  it is good idea but that should  be your job infinite_del  because i am filled/ drowned to my neck..  I didn't even finish these threads in cemb resource center....

    Quote

    and many more

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #37 - May 18, 2014, 02:36 PM

    When I look at pictures and videos or hear stories from 40, 50, even 30 years ago, not just from my native country, but from other Muslim/Arab countries, I think it’s quite apparent that the Muslim world as a whole is more religious and more reactionary now than it was back then. I blame Saudi oil money on spreading Salafism/Wahhabism (a reactionary, modern movement) to the extent that the Wahhabis who the villagers used to mock and tell to fuck off when they condemned Sufi practices or music or encouraged veiling, now have the women draped in mobile tents and have convinced everyone that what they have is real Islam and we’re screwed because from a purely literal perspective, it is real Islam. The problem is that the fundies have scripture on their side and Islam teaches that the Quran is the literal word of God.

    Personally, I’m not very optimistic for the Muslim world – at least not in my lifetime – but I am a bit optimistic for Muslims in the West.  


    The problem is not just Saudi petrodollar but a lot of other things, western foreign policy, the lack of vision of muslim/arab leaders, lack of education and so on. I do agree that 4-5 decades muslim world was more laid back. Here are some pictures from the 50's and 60's of Afghanistan.
    http://izismile.com/2013/06/26/old_photos_show_a_very_different_afghanistan_in_20_pics.html
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #38 - May 18, 2014, 02:37 PM

    Oh common Al-Alethia ., I am very optimistic., The so-called Muslim world will change., it is just we need to put a computer in the hands of every Muslim kid.....  that is it., one generation is enough to change..

    You are so pessimistic., I ask you  why? did you had fight with your sister?   stop it.. stop fighting..

    No, I haven't fought with my sister in a long time Cheesy I'm generally a pessimist but yeez, look at what's happening in Nigeria, Syria, Libya, etc. It's getting worse, no?

    I mean, just look at this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3kru5hJpVQ

    :( that's potentially a whole generation of children in one country lost to religious conditioning into violence.


    And they will come across Salafi and Wahabbi sites and learn jihad and the likes

    Oh, and there's this. The kids who stumble onto crazy shit online and then try to blow stuff up, or go to whatever war-torn Muslim country the jihad du jour is being fought in, or lecture other Muslims for not being Muslim enough. The internet is a double-edged sword yeez.

  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #39 - May 18, 2014, 02:47 PM

    The problem is not just Saudi petrodollar but a lot of other things, western foreign policy, the lack of vision of muslim/arab leaders, lack of education and so on. I do agree that 4-5 decades muslim world was more laid back. Here are some pictures from the 50's and 60's of Afghanistan.
    http://izismile.com/2013/06/26/old_photos_show_a_very_different_afghanistan_in_20_pics.html


    It's definitely not the only factor but I believe it's the single biggest one, especially in some countries. Education is also another big one. How much of an impact did Western foreign policy really have on the religiosity of Muslim populations before the first Gulf War? Not much, IMO.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #40 - May 18, 2014, 03:15 PM

    If they came across millions of Ishinas I'd think they wouldn't be brave enough for the internet for very long.  hiding

    There's only one Ishina, and only one Ishina is needed.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #41 - May 18, 2014, 03:21 PM

    And so is one CEMB and one Yeezevee to show the beauty of the ex-Muslims.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #42 - May 18, 2014, 03:37 PM

    If they came across millions of Ishinas I'd think they wouldn't be brave enough for the internet for very long.  hiding

     Cheesy Ishina can be scary.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #43 - May 18, 2014, 03:53 PM

    Can anyone explain to me in detail, please?
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #44 - May 18, 2014, 04:08 PM

    It's definitely not the only factor but I believe it's the single biggest one, especially in some countries. Education is also another big one. How much of an impact did Western foreign policy really have on the religiosity of Muslim populations before the first Gulf War? Not much, IMO.


    I think one has to go back further than the Gulf wars, the role of British/French Empires in the Middle east and Muslim countries also had an impact on many levels.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #45 - May 18, 2014, 04:14 PM

    @asbie
    Yes i am also making excuses for the barbarism of Spanish Inquisition and the Witch hunts. Take me out for a drink and i might explain it to you but till then you do the explaining since i can't be arsed to type a lot.


    I'm not saying that you're excusing it. Its just something I often hear in the way of an excuse. It makes no sense to me.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #46 - May 18, 2014, 04:31 PM

    I've actually never run into any Christian who thinks you should follow OT law, they consider Jesus a big loophole, so that tends to be the route those who haven't read up too much on the subject like to take in my experience. It is just far easier to dismiss the law portions of the Bible. And it's not rare for me to run into Christians who will say that the Bible was divinely inspired/guided/whatever, but was indeed compiled and written by men and that there could be mistakes or at least omissions, and they'll point to obvious examples like King James.

    I personally would rather be a Christian apologist trying to squirm my way out of death for mixed fibers law than being a Muslim apologist trying to justify the actual "indisputable" word of God verbatim.

    Edit: Since I've posted this, I remember one who did think we should follow OT law. He was interesting. wacko


    You're still describing milieu as opposed to any difference in the two theologies. Both theologies are equally fucked up.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #47 - May 18, 2014, 04:38 PM

    ^ Yes, they're both pretty awful, but for the rest, do you think so? I think there's something to be said about the fact that one is a collection of, at best, divinely inspired work, and the other one is the literal word of God and, moreover, very much a book of law and lifestyle. I see one as easier to escape and water down than the other.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #48 - May 18, 2014, 07:00 PM

    ^ I agree.

    I think one has to go back further than the Gulf wars, the role of British/French Empires in the Middle east and Muslim countries also had an impact on many levels.

    No, I think blaming everything on colonialism is a cop out. Ethnic and sectarian conflict can be attributed to how the colonialists drew the borders but I don't think they can be blamed for general Islamic fundamentalism. The British/French left in the 70s at the latest (most of the MidEast was free of colonialists by the 50s), Islamic terrorism against the West didn't really gain momentum until after the first Gulf War, and the rise of Islamism I'd say began sometime in the early 1980s. Also, most of the hostility is directed at the U.S., not the old-school European imperialists. 

    Somalia, for example, had secular governments since independence in 1960, and Islam -- as the general populace practiced it -- was mild and watered down with a lot of heretical Sufi practices considered mainstream. In the 1980s, Wahhabi/Salafi influence started creeping in and the chaos of the 1990s onwards created an ideal environment for religious BS. That's just one example but it illustrates my point.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #49 - May 19, 2014, 01:10 AM

    ^ Yes, they're both pretty awful, but for the rest, do you think so? I think there's something to be said about the fact that one is a collection of, at best, divinely inspired work, and the other one is the literal word of God and, moreover, very much a book of law and lifestyle. I see one as easier to escape and water down than the other.


    For me the difference is the Seal of Prophethood. Christianity does not tell you that their prophet came to deliver the law. They claim he came to do away with the (then) current Jewish laws that were oppressing the population and promoting/benefiting the Jewish priestly class. Islam claims Mohammed brought the Shariah, and it cannot be improved upon, and must be followed. 

    So while you have the Jews and the Christians reinterpreting and rehashing out their religious obligations and laws, Muslims cannot do that.

    This is the most important difference, in my opinion, regarding translation from text into practice and adherence.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #50 - May 19, 2014, 01:56 AM

    ^ That sounds like it might have a pretty good hand in it, too, although I do like to point out to the people who try to dismiss the OT that Jesus said he didn't come to abolish the OT law, but to perfect it. Either way, as a Christian you definitely have a ton of options to disregard the prescribed evils of the religion, and I found it extraordinarily tough to find even a single convincing way to do the same as a liberal Muslim.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #51 - May 19, 2014, 02:10 AM

    I dunno, I guess I've read too many things like "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God", to really consider current Islamic fundamentalism to be anything other than the latest variation on an old, old theme.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #52 - May 19, 2014, 02:19 AM

    ^ That sounds like it might have a pretty good hand in it, too, although I do like to point out to the people who try to dismiss the OT that Jesus said he didn't come to abolish the OT law, but to perfect it. Either way, as a Christian you definitely have a ton of options to disregard the prescribed evils of the religion, and I found it extraordinarily tough to find even a single convincing way to do the same as a liberal Muslim.


    Well, he couldn't say blatantly what he was doing. But if you look at his actions regarding the Temple and the priesthood, and his complete disregard for how the priesthood was "holier than" the common people, then he was reforming the laws, doing away with hierarchy, rather than perfecting or adding to it at all. I mean, it was so revolutionary, that it spawned a new religion and the Jews had him crucified for upsetting their power base. 

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #53 - May 19, 2014, 02:24 AM

    I dunno, I guess I've read too many things like "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God", to really consider current Islamic fundamentalism to be anything other than the latest variation on an old, old theme.

    Well, I mean, it kind of is, but Islam came with some details added to the old formula that just makes it a bit more of a pain in the ass to water down, in my opinion. But, who knows, it's certainly not testable. I do think and hope that the majority will have to retreat into a liberal interpretation sooner or later, and the state of many Muslim-majority countries in the world undoubtedly has a hand in why this hasn't already happened like it has for Christianity.

    Well, he couldn't say blatantly what he was doing. But if you look at his actions regarding the Temple and the priesthood, and his complete disregard for how the priesthood was "holier than" the common people, then he was reforming the laws, doing away with hierarchy, rather than perfecting or adding to it at all. I mean, it was so revolutionary, that it spawned a new religion and the Jews had him crucified for upsetting their power base. 


    Yeah, that's true, he wasn't exactly leading by example if he wanted that followed so badly. Point taken.
  • 13-year-old Rimsha Brutally murderer by the sperm donor for her make up
     Reply #54 - May 24, 2014, 05:16 PM

    I was told this was Josh. But here it is a father, again, and he has a history. Not her father, either. Her friend's father killed her, the apostate, for influencing his daughter.

    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Suspect-held-in-2012-Galleria-area-slaying-5500054.php

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
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