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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1050 - September 22, 2014, 11:15 AM

    Well - it's dead now and thus not dangerous.

    Cheesy at Ar-Razi's video.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1051 - September 22, 2014, 01:36 PM

    What happened to Turkey? Is this the same Turkiye, we grew up listening to - that Ataturk's ideal secular state. They're firing at fleeing Syrian Kurds from Kobane and also some reports tell that seiged weapons from fallen ISIL militants ( by YPG) indicate that they came from Turkey.

    "Who really knows?
    Who will here proclaim it?
    Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation?
    The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe.
    Who then knows whence it has arisen?"- Rig Veda, 10:129-6
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1052 - September 22, 2014, 01:42 PM

    Wouldn't surprise me. Turks are turning a blind eye to ISIS members coming and going in Turkey.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1053 - September 22, 2014, 03:58 PM

    What happened to Turkey? Is this the same Turkiye, we grew up listening to - that Ataturk's ideal secular state. They're firing at fleeing Syrian Kurds from Kobane and also some reports tell that seiged weapons from fallen ISIL militants ( by YPG) indicate that they came from Turkey.

    YPG is closely allied with PKK. So Turkey see the Syrian Kurds as terrorists. Albeit Turkey is now letting people in and UN estimates as many as 300,000 may enter in addition to the already 1 million Syrian refugees Turkey hosts.

    Also YPG has just announced that they have stopped the advancing of ISIS.

    The government of Iraqi Kurdistan is politically in opposition to PKK and YPG and has a lot of economical ties with Turkey so they are kind of allies. Also Turkey has a lot of influence among the Arab Sunni tribes in northern Iraq in and around Mosul which is probably why they managed to get their 49 consular employees there freed.

    Turkey has probably seen ISIS as a strategic asset against both Assad and PKK.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1054 - September 22, 2014, 06:06 PM

    "Kill the citizens" of countries in anti-ISIS coalition, ISIS spokesman says

    Quote
    The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) group called on "Muslims" to kill citizens of countries taking part in the US-led anti-jihadist coalition by any means, in a statement posted online on Monday.

    "If you can kill a disbelieving American or European -- especially the spiteful and filthy French -- or an Australian, or a Canadian... including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State (ISIS), then rely upon Allah, and kill him," said Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, the group's spokesman, in a message released in multiple languages.

    "Kill the disbeliever whether he is civilian or military," he said.

    French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said the group's call showed once again, "if it needed to be shown, the barbarity of these terrorists, and shows why we must fight them relentlessly..." In a statement, he added, using an Arabic acronym for the militants: "We must also eliminate the risk that Daesh represents to our security."

    The United States and France are carrying out airstrikes against ISIS targets across Iraq and are seeking to build an international coalition against a group increasingly perceived as a global threat.

    The jihadists, who have declared a "caliphate" straddling Iraq and Syria, control swathes of territory in both countries.

    The group is regarded as the most violent and powerful in modern jihad. It has executed hundreds of Iraqis and Syrians, as well as foreign hostages, and its brutal campaign has forced more than a million from their homes.

    Adnani's message -- which was released in an Arabic audio recording, together with transcripts in English, French and Hebrew -- gave instructions on how the killings could be carried out without military equipment.

    "Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him," the ISIS spokesman said.

    Adnani also praised militants in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, calling on them to "cut the throats" of those fighting for President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi.

    "O America, O allies of America, and O crusaders, know that the matter is more dangerous than you have imagined and greater than you have envisioned," he said.

    "We have warned you that today we are in a new era, an era where the (Islamic) State, its soldiers, and its sons are leaders not slaves."

    Al-Adnani also taunted US President Barack Obama and other Western "crusaders" in a statement carried by the SITE monitoring website, saying their forces faced inevitable defeat at the insurgents' hands.

    Adnani mocked Western leaders over their deepening military engagement in the region and said Obama was repeating the mistakes of his predecessor, George W. Bush.

    "If you fight it (Islamic State), it becomes stronger and tougher. If you leave it alone, it grows and expands. If Obama has promised you with defeating the Islamic State, then Bush has also lied before him," Adnani said, according to the transcript.

    Addressing Obama directly, Adnani added: "O mule of the Jews, you claimed today that America would not be drawn into a war on the ground. No, it will be drawn and dragged ... to its death, grave and destruction."

    While Obama has ruled out a combat mission, military officials say the reality of a protracted campaign in Iraq and possibly Syria may ultimately require greater use of US troops, including tactical air strike spotters or front-line advisers embedded with Iraqi forces.

    In his statement, Adnani criticized Kurdish fighters who are battling ISIS militants in both Syria and Iraq.

    "We do not fight Kurds because they are Kurds. Rather we fight the disbelievers amongst them, the allies of the crusaders and Jews in their war against the Muslims," Adnani said.

    He added that there were many Muslim Kurds within the ranks of ISIS' army.

    On Monday, Syrian Kurdish fighters halted an advance by ISIS to the east of a predominantly Kurdish town near the border with Turkey, a spokesman for the main Kurdish group said.

    Adnani also condemned Saudi Arabia, whose senior Muslim clergy have denounced ISIS and whose ruling royal family has joined other Arab states in a pledge to tackle militant ideology as part of a strategy to counter the group.

    (Reuters, AFP, Al-Akhbar)


    What's up with the added hate for the French?

    Here is a link to the transcript in English:

    Islamic State Declaration of War

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1055 - September 22, 2014, 07:40 PM

    You thought Al Qaeda, Nusra Front, and ISIS/ISIL/DAASH were bad enough ....well now there's a new kid on the block:  Cry

    Khorasan: Muhsin al-Fadhli - the man leading a terror group more feared by US officials than Isis

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/khorasan-muhsin-alfadhli--the-man-leading-a-terror-group-more-feared-by-us-officials-than-isis-9748404.html

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1056 - September 22, 2014, 07:42 PM


    What's up with the added hate for the French?



    They didn't even mention the British, I feel so left out.  Cry

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1057 - September 22, 2014, 09:17 PM

    The French have been flying a few air raids, so that's why the added hate. Australia got a mention too. parrot

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1058 - September 22, 2014, 09:20 PM

    They didn't even mention the British, I feel so left out.  Cry

    Drop some bombs on them. They'll soon put you on their hate list. Afro

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1059 - September 22, 2014, 09:32 PM

    Shouldn't have to drop bombs, all you do is have to be a part of the coalition and you get to go on the exclusive list.


    I am better than your god......and so are you.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1060 - September 22, 2014, 09:34 PM

    Yeah but bombs are fun.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1061 - September 23, 2014, 11:19 AM

    Latest episode:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di0bI1Prkbc
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1062 - September 23, 2014, 11:42 AM


    'It is unclear who, besides Mr. Fadhli, is part of the Khorasan group. The director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., said on Thursday that “in terms of threat to the homeland, Khorasan may pose as much of a danger as the Islamic State.”'
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbq3kc29Tmg
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1063 - September 23, 2014, 12:04 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_mUzvID1uM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3JpGY56XXk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MQRKbTFldo



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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1064 - September 23, 2014, 02:28 PM

    So the US, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrian, UAE and Qatar are bombing IS *AND* the currently FSA-allied Jabhat al-Nusra. Assad allegedly approves so it is OK by international law however the US says it did not ask for permission (which should be given by the UN Security Council).

    Not sure this is good. The Kurds in YPG had already stopped IS' advance in Kobani and cleared several villages which was taken earlier by them. Air bombardments did not break the morale of the British, the Germans, the Japanese nor the Vietnamese.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9034BawdX4

    From BBC live update.

    Quote
    Ross Hawkins, BBC political correspondent tweets: Islamic State fighters redeploying from areas hit in air strikes towards Kurdish territories, says Kurdish armed group acc to Reuters

    15:17: "This is not America's fight alone," Mr Obama stresses, admitting that "the overall effort will take time".

    15:15: Mr Obama said America was "joined by our friends", in a reference to Bahrain, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

    15:14: US President Barack Obama is now making a statement on the US-led air strikes in Syria. He says "terrorists can't find safe haven anywhere".Channel 4 News tweets: Raqqa resident tells #c4news:

    "The strikes were not effective because IS has been evacuating their HQ for three days" http://www.channel4.com/news/raqqa-twitter-users-islamic-state-air-strikes-syria

    15:06: Syrian President Assad supports any international effort against "terror", the country's state media report.

    US mission to the EU tweets: Most foreign fighters returning frm Syria are unlikely to launch attacks. Many are soured, disillusioned, traumatised- @NoonanFPRI #efd_useu

    15:00: Syria's ambassador to the UN tells Reuters he was informed about imminent air strikes on Monday morning by the US Ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power.

    14:59: Syria's state TV reports that an Iraqi envoy is now briefing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on next steps to combat terrorism, according to Reuters.

    14:52: More on the US state department statement. Ms Psaki says: "The President (Obama) made clear in his speech to the nation on 10 September that the US would not hesitate to take direct action against ISIL (IS) and terrorists inside Syria who were threatening the US. Since that speech, we informed the Syrian regime directly of our intent to take action through our ambassador to the UN to the Syrian permanent representative to the UN."

    Anna Holligan BBC News, The Hague says Dutch newspapers are quoting a self-proclaimed jihadist fighter on Twitter, who says three Dutchmen were killed in US air strikes in Aleppo.

    14:38: Ms Psaki adds: "We did not co-ordinate our actions with the Syrian government. We did not provide advance notification to the Syrians at a military level, or give any indication of our timing on specific targets. Secretary Kerry did not send a letter to the Syrian regime."

    14:37:BREAKING NEWS Speaking about the US-led air strikes, US State Department Jen Psaki says in a statement: "We warned Syria not to engage US aircraft. We did not request the regime's permission."

    MSNBC, News Organisation tweets: As 5 Arab allies join the US, ISIS blames Saudi Arabia for last night's airstrikes in Syria

    14:25: BBC Monitoring (Urgent): Bahrain says its air force took part in US-led air strikes in Syria. The official Bahrain News Agency said: "A group of fighter jets from the Royal Bahrain Air Force carried out earlier this morning... air strikes against a number of selected targets of terrorist groups and organisations, and destroyed them". It quoted an "authorised source" at the Bahrain defence force headquarters.
      Andrea Mitchell, NBC News Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent tweets: .@HassanRouhani tells me U.S bombardment in Syria illegal because not authorized by UN or invited by Syria government unlike fight in Iraq

    14:06: The US-led air strikes - brilliant or reckless, asks chief foreign correspondent Paul McGeough of the Sydney Morning Herald in this piece.

    13:56: "Any further intervention in the Middle East must include plans to address the suffering of Syrian civilians," the With Syria coalition says in a statement. The international group is comprised of 40 human rights and humanitarian organisations.

    13:52:
    Syrian refugees in Turkey, 23 September
    The UN refugee agency is making contingency plans in case all 400,000 inhabitants of the Syrian Kurdish city of Kobane flee into Turkey to escape the advance of IS. Some 138,000 have already done so, UNHCR spokeswoman Melissa Fleming was quoted as saying by Reuters in Geneva. "Anything could happen," she said.

    Dr Natasha Underhill, expert on terrorism in the Middle East at Nottingham Trent University emails: "The airstrikes have come much too late in the case of Syria, where the IS militants have had over a year to entrench themselves within the region, especially the province of Raqqa. IS is deeply entrenched in both Syria and Iraq and it may take a lot more than airstrikes to make a dent in their campaign of creating an even larger caliphate across the Middle East."

    13:46: At least 70 IS fighters were killed by the air strikes in Syria, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is quoted as saying by Reuters. The group says the death toll is likely to be much higher.

    13:43:
    Residents look at a destroyed car in Kfar Derian, near Aleppo. Photo: 23 September 2014
    Residents gather around a destroyed car that - according to anti-government Syrian activists - was hit by the US-led air strikes in Kfar Derian, near Aleppo. The town is a stronghold of the Nusra Front, which has links to al-Qaeda.

    13:34: UK Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has stressed the importance of an international response to the IS threat during a visit to the Gulf. "In taking action to degrade and destroy ISIL [IS] terrorists it is important that key regional partners continue to play a leading role," he said in Bahrain. He added that the government was still discussing Britain's own contribution.

    Frank Gardner BBC security correspondent writes: A Gulf Arab official has told me that four of the five Arab countries mentioned took an active part in the air strikes on IS positions in Syria
    Saudi Arabia flew Tornadoes, and possibly Typhoons, from bases in northern Saudi Arabia and Jordan
    The United Arab Emirates flew fighters
    Bahrain flew three fighters
    Qatar did not launch fighters but hosts a US CentCom forward base in the Gulf
    Jordan flew fighters


    Syrian Observatory for Human Rights posts on Facebook: Aleppo province: medical sources reported to SOHR that no less than 50 fighters from Jabhat al-Nusra (most of them were Syrian fighters), were killed by air strikes by the warplanes of the international coalition which targeted IS, Jabhat al-Nusra, and other Islamic movements in the western countryside of Aleppo.

    Emile Hokayem, Author of Syria's Uprising and the Fracturing of the Levant tweets: Don't over-read statements from Damascus: Assad has every interest in making up coordination w/ US or playing up every small contact.

    13:01:
    Tomahawk cruise missile launches during the night from the USS Philippine Sea in the Gulf.

    12:58: If you are just joining us, a summary of the US-led military action inside Syria: IS training compounds, command and control facilities, vehicles and storage sites were reportedly either destroyed or damaged. Dozens of militants were reportedly killed in the city of Raqqa, where IS has its headquarters. Witnesses say many residents of the city are fleeing. President Obama is to make a statement shortly.

    12:53: David Cameron's office releases a statement, saying the Prime Minister will hold talks over the next two days about what more the UK can do. "The PM supports the latest air strikes against ISIL [IS] terrorists which have been carried out by the US and five other countries from the Gulf and Middle East," the statement says. "The PM will be holding talks at the United Nations in New York over the next two days on what more the UK and others can do to contribute to international efforts to tackle the threat we all face from ISIL. The UK is already offering significant military support, including supplying arms to the Kurds as well as surveillance operations by a squadron of Tornadoes and other RAF aircraft."

    12:52:
    Bombers prepare to launch from the USS George HW Bush in the Gulf, 23 September
    F/A-18E Super Hornet bombers preparing to launch from the USS George HW Bush in the Gulf during the night for strike missions against IS.

    12:46: France joined the US on Friday in mounting air strikes on militants in Iraq. Since then, a Frenchman has been abducted by militants in Algeria who are demanding a halt to French military action. But French Prime Minister Manuel Valls says his country will not stop fighting IS. "It is the treachery of terrorism to resort to extortion, blackmail, death and menace, and if we give in, if we retreat one inch, that would hand them victory," he told a radio station.

    George Jennings, York, UK emails: The British government must order the air strikes in order to remove IS and its partners. Speaking as a retired Army officer who has served in Iraq and Afghanistan, I believe the IS must be dealt with in a quick and powerful way. We shouldn't send boots on the ground - this would be the responsibility of bordering countries.

    12:41: Martin Dempsey on gaining support for the US action from five Arab nations: "Once we had one of them on board, the others followed quickly thereafter. We now have a kind of credible campaign against ISIL [IS] that includes a coalition of partners.'' The coalition came together during the past three days, he adds.

    A French soldier near the Eiffel Tower in Paris, 23 September
    A French soldier patrols near the Eiffel Tower in Paris. Western states are on alert for reprisals by the militants or their allies.

    12:37: The US chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Martin Dempsey, who's the highest-ranking officer in the US military, tells reporters: "We wanted to make sure that ISIL [IS] knew they have no safe haven, and we certainly achieved that." He says he "can't overstate" the role of the five Arab nations who supported the US.

    12:36: The UK's shadow Foreign Secretary, Douglas Alexander, has called for the UN Security Council to pass a resolution on Syria. "[IS] represent a threat not just to regional security in the Middle East but to international security, so we understand and support the action that has been taken both by the United States and Arab allies in recent hours," he said.

    12:20:
    Burning Syrian plane over the Golan Heights, 23 September
    The Syrian fighter jet downed by Israel over the Golan Heights had apparently strayed into Israeli-controlled airspace. Read the full story.

    12:19: President Obama will give a statement on the Syrian air strikes within hours, AFP reports, quoting an unnamed official.

    Raqqa_SL (Raqqa is Being Slaughtered Silently) says on its Facebook Page: "Summary of what happened due to the 18 air strikes by US war planes on Al-Raqqa: Seven air strikes targeted the Mayor building in downtown, the Equestrian building, checkpoint in west side of the city, Al- Tala'ea (Military) Camp in south of the city and the security building near the national hospital. Five air strikes on Al-Taqaba air base and the north surrounding of Al-Tabaqa city in west rural Al-Raqqa. Three air strikes on Tal-Abyad in north of Rural Raqqa. Three air strikes targeted the 93 Brigade and its surrounding in Ein-Issa (village) north Rural Raqqa. Until this moment no civilians were injured or targeted."

    IslamicStateMaldives tweets: Breaking: JN (Syrian Jabhat Al-Nusrah) leader Abu Yusuf Al-Turki was martyred by the crusader strikes with over 10 mujahideen"

    Hussam Al Marie, Free Syrian Army Spokesman for Northern Syria tweets: As I release this statement from northern #Syria our brave #FSA fighters are attacking #ISIS in north eastern #Aleppo

    Kovan Direj tweets: Breaking #ISIS empty all basses inside al-Raqqa city even alhesba center #TwitterKurds #Syria #ISIS after us and allies shelled the city

    12:05: People in the Syrian city of Raqqa are fleeing after US strikes, according to Reuters. "There is an exodus out of Raqqa as we speak. It started in the early hours of the day after the strikes," a witness says.

    11:59: Al-Jazeera pan-Arab TV takes a somewhat different line on the US operation by highlighting US strikes on the rival jihadist Nusra Front group, BBC Monitoring reports. Al-Jazeera's correspondent in Idlib province, north-western Syria, says the US targeted the Nusra Front there with Tomahawk missiles and "destroyed residential neighbourhoods full of civilians". It has shown footage of people removing bodies from rubble.

    11:53: The Syrian foreign ministry releases a statement on state TV: "Yesterday (Monday) the Foreign Minister, Walid Muallem, received a letter from his American counterpart John Kerry via the Iraqi foreign minister, in which he informed him that the United States would target the terrorist group ISIS in Syria."

    Jon Williams, ABC's foreign editor tweets: Pentagon: overnight raids "very, very successful". Targeted #ISIS command & control & supply depots. "Strikes continue for some time" #Syria

    11:38: Here's video footage of Tomahawk missiles being launched from the USS Arleigh Burke in the Red Sea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9034BawdX4&sns=tw

    Robert Burns, AP tweets: US military official: Khorasan group in Syria was hit because it was "nearing the execution phase" of a planned attack on US or Europe.

    11:18: The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says the number of people killed by US airstrikes on al-Qaeda militants in northern Syria has risen to 50 (see 9:50 entry), according to Reuters. The Observatory says most of those killed were non-Syrians.

    11:02: Islamic State releases a second video of kidnapped British journalist John Cantlie. He says the West has underestimated the strength of the militants. IS has killed three Western hostages and has threatened to kill British aid convoy volunteer Alan Henning next.

    10:47: In a BBC interview, British security analyst Eric Grove asks: "Who is going to act as a ground force in Syria? The Free Syrian Army is squeezed between jihadists and troops of Syrian President Assad."

    10:38: Syrian state TV has been flashing a number of statements from its foreign ministry, BBC Monitoring notes. One says: "Syria supports any international effort that aims at fighting terrorism, whatever the terrorist group - IS, al-Nusra Front or any other one." Another says: "Syria will also continue fighting IS in Raqqa and other districts and will not stop fighting the group in cooperation with states which are directly harmed, principally Iraq."

    10:29: British Conservative MP John Baron warns against airstrikes in Syria. He says on his website: "IS has to be driven out of Iraq, given our responsibility to the Iraqi people following our misguided intervention in 2003. But air strikes into Syria are a higher risk strategy, with no certain outcome."

    Saeed Ahmed, CNN editor tweets: Twitter breaks news ... again: Raqqa resident the 1st to tweet about airstrikes against #Isis in #Syria http://goo.gl/yaQT1I

    10:19: If you're just joining us, welcome to the BBC's live coverage of the US-led air strikes against Islamic State militants in Syria. A quick recap: The US says "partner nations" - Bahrain, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates - were involved in the operation. The US had previously launched about 190 air strikes on IS targets in Iraq.

    10:09: The US and its allies cannot rely on air power alone to defeat Islamic State, as the example of Iraq has shown, the BBC's Jonathan Marcus argues.

    A US warplane launches from the flight deck of the aircraft carrier USS George HW Bush in the Gulf. File photo

    Ross Hawkins Political correspondent, BBC News reports: "Several (British) Conservative MPs who opposed air strikes in Syria last summer have told the BBC they would now support military action."

    10:03: A Nato official says the military alliance was not involved in the air strikes in Syria, according to Reuters.

    Radio Free Iraq tweets: Sources in #Raqqa, #Syria: #ISIL members were evacuating offices overnight in anticipation of #US air strikes (#IS #ISIS #Iraq)

    09:50: The air strikes killed 30 al-Qaeda militants in Syria's western Aleppo province on Tuesday, says the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

    09:47: Reacting to the US-led air strikes, the Russian foreign ministry says "attempts to solve one's own geopolitical objectives, violating the sovereignty of states in the region, only raise tensions and further destabilise the situation."

    09:42: Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says on its Facebook page: "Al-Hasakah province: the international coalition warplanes carried out three air raids on ISIS HQs in both of al-Houl town in the southern eastern countryside of al-Hasakah, and al-Shadadi in the southern countryside, which is considered as a bastion for ISIS in al-Hasakah, reports of human losses in the IS."

    Nick Robinson BBC Political editor tweets: Polling by @yougov shows majority (52%) would approve RAF air strikes against IS in Syria cf 27% opposing (was 37%/37% last month)

    09:38: The Syrian foreign ministry will make an "important statement", state TV is quoted as saying by Reuters. No further details were given.

    09:25: Marc Weller, Professor of International Law at the University of Cambridge, looks at what forcible action can be lawfully undertaken against Islamic State.

    09:20: IS militants pray at the spot where the group said a US drone crashed into a communications tower in the city of Raqqa.


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1065 - September 23, 2014, 02:33 PM


    Wow they took that down fast! Do you know when was it uploaded? For those who didn't see it, you're not missing much.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1066 - September 23, 2014, 02:41 PM

    Wow they took that down fast! Do you know when was it uploaded? For those who didn't see it, you're not missing much.

      No..No there is no conspiracy there QSE.,   Some of these YouTube videos are made by public by copying them from somewhere else.,  such as news paper., or videos from private investigators.   If the original source complains to You tube that such and such video is copy pasted without referring to originals source then You tube will remove those videos that came from public such as you and me..   Because these videos are copy/write  protected..

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Isis+British+Hostage+John+Cantlie+In+Lend+Me+Your+Ears+...&tbm=vid

    So there is a problem there but you can click that link and sure you can watch same video from some other source if not from You tube ..

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1067 - September 23, 2014, 04:02 PM

    I didn't think it was a conspiracy, it's a youtube violation.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1068 - September 24, 2014, 11:37 AM

    IS executes rights activist in Iraq

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    Baghdad, Sep 24 (IANS/EFE) The Islamic State (IS) Sunni extremist group executed rights activist Samira Saleh Ali al-Neaimi in a central square of north Iraq's Mosul city Tuesday, a week after she was detained for her criticism of the jihadi group.

    Al-Neaimi's arrest came after she condemned the demolition of religious shrines as "barbaric", Efe quoted a source in Mosul as saying.

    IS militants shot the activist in public in the centre of Mosul after declaring her guilty of apostasy and offences against the IS.

    Al-Neaimi's body was handed over to her family, but they were not allowed to hold a funeral for her.

    Since the IS seized control of Iraq's second-largest city in June, numerous scientists, intellectuals, politicians and security officials have been summarily executed by the jihadis.

    The security situation in Iraq began to drastically deteriorate since June 10 when bloody clashes broke out between Iraqi security forces and hundreds of IS militants. The group took control of Mosul and later seized swathes of territory after the Iraqi security forces abandoned their posts in Nineveh and other predominantly Sunni provinces.

    The extremist group has committed heinous crimes and threatened all communities, including Shias, Sunnis, Kurds, Christians and Yazidis, during its advances.

    --IANS/EFE


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1069 - September 24, 2014, 11:50 AM

    IS executes rights activist in Iraq

    Sunni extremist group executed rights activist Samira Saleh Ali al-Neaimi in a central square of north Iraq's Mosul city Tuesday, a week after she was detained for her criticism of the jihadi group.

    Al-Neaimi's arrest came after she condemned the demolition of religious shrines as "barbaric", Efe quoted a source in Mosul as saying.

    IS militants shot the activist in public in the centre of Mosul after declaring her guilty of apostasy and offences against the IS. Al-Neaimi's body was handed over to her family, but they were not allowed to hold a funeral for her.




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    Reports confirmed that on the evening of 22 September 2014, a group of masked armed men who belong to ISIS opened fire and killed her in a public square in the very heart of Mosul. She was kidnapped by ISIS from her home last week after she described as “barbaric” the widespread damage that ISIS inflicted on ancient features of her city.

    Samira Saleh Al-Naimi is a prominent lawyer and human rights defender and famous for her activities that include defending detainees and supporting the disadvantaged families in the city.


    Well at least these Islamic heroes   handed over Al-Neaimi's body  to her family. Often in such cases you see only head that is separated from the body.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1070 - September 24, 2014, 12:21 PM

    Allegedly ISIS has also killed 300 encircled Iraqi soldiers with chlorine gas north of Fallujah and 800 are unaccounted for. Still need to find a trustworthy source but several Iraqi officers have been sacked after they originally stated that the encircled Iraqi soldiers would be saved.

    URGENT: Death of 300 Iraqi soldiers, failed rescue condemned by MPs

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    (IraqiNews.com) On Monday several Members of Parliament from Diwaniyah Province confirmed that ISIS killed over 300 soldiers using chlorine gas for the first time in Saqlawiyah, north of Fallujah.

    Member of Parliament for the Al Fadila Party, Aqil al-Zubaidi, accused leaders of Army Aviation and the Air Force of negligence for failing to support Iraqi Army soldiers trapped in the regions of Alsger and Saqlawiyah for six days.

    Zubaidi said in a statement received IraqiNews.com “we hear about successful raids by the Army Aviation and Iraqi Air Force in the areas of Kirkuk and Mosul, but we have not seen this success in areas close to the capital,” wondering “what were the reasons that led to the delay in providing air support for the army troops which were besieged in the areas of Alsger and Saqlawiyah for six days despite the distress of the trapped soldiers as well as the demonstrations by their loved ones?”

    Zubaidi added that “there is lack of seriousness among some military leaders in the implementation of their duties,” considering that “a procrastinating and a negligence in providing support to the soldiers in some areas.”

    The MP for Al Fadila Party indicated that “such attitudes contribute to weaken the morale of the Iraqi army front lines,” arguing the leaders of the Army Aviation and the Air Force to “give an explanation for their backwardness of the rescue of the besieged troops.”


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1071 - September 24, 2014, 12:31 PM

    America’s anti-ISIS coalition is “ridiculous” says Iran’s President



    Iranian President Hassan Rohani interviewed by American Network NBC.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZXXgm4cv8

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    Rohani said in an interview with the American network NBC and followed by IraqiNews.com, that “Are Americans afraid of giving casualties on the ground in Iraq? Are they afraid of their soldiers being killed in the fight they claim is against terrorism?”

    “If they want to use planes and if they want to use unmanned planes so that nobody is injured from the Americans, is it really possible to fight terrorism without any hardship, without any sacrifice? Is it possible to reach a big goal without that? In all regional and international issues, the victorious one is the one who is ready to do sacrifice.

    “Maybe it is necessary for airstrikes in some conditions and some circumstances,” he added. “However, air strikes should take place with the permission of the people of that country and the government of that country.”


    Hey  Christiane Amanpour  Cover your face... finmad finmad

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1072 - September 24, 2014, 12:37 PM

    Radical cleric urges Islamic State to release British hostage Alan Henning

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    A radical Islamic preacher who spent four years in a UK jail for soliciting murder and hate speech has made a video plea for Islamic State (Isis) to spare the life of British hostage Alan Henning.

    Abdullah el-Faisal, who is said to have played a part in radicalising the shoe bomber Richard Reid and the 7/7 bomber Germaine Lindsay, is one the most radical English-speaking preachers to publicly call for Henning’s release.

    The one-time imam of south London’s Brixton mosque has been a fervent online champion of Isis, even supporting the kidnapping and rape of Yazidi minority women in Iraq.

    In the video released on Wednesday morning, Faisal begged for Henning’s life and said that to kill him would be against Islamic law.

    There are growing signs that the kidnap of Henning is controversial even among Islamic extremists who have been sympathetic to Isis’s tactics. Faisal’s intervention is the clearest example so far. With previous kidnappings some Isis-supporting scholars have made the case that they could be spies but, according to reports, Isis’s own sharia court has cleared the aid worker of any such charge.

    In the 2 min 40 sec video the Jamaican preacher, who was jailed in 2003, says: “This is a message to my brothers in the Islamic State. It is well known to the world that you have a hostage by the name of Alan Henning and that his life is in jeopardy.

    “I’ve spoken to many people about Alan Henning and everyone spoke well about him. He loves people. He’s a good Samaritan. He’s a philanthropist. He is a sympathiser to Muslims.”

    Sitting behind a desk with the Qur’an in his hands, Faisal continues: “So to kill someone like that, an aid worker, is un-Islamic … the sharia law doesn’t allow you to kill someone like Alan Henning.

    “Because Alan Henning is not antagonistic towards Muslims, it is un-Islamic to kill such a person … Therefore I plead, I beg of you in the name of God to set this good Samaritan free.”

    The video came after a Henning’s wife pleaded on Tuesday for her husband to be released.

    Henning, 47 was kidnapped by Isis militants in Syria in 2012 when his aid convey was stopped by masked gunmen and he was forcibly separated from his party.

    “I have seen Muslims across the globe question Islamic State over Alan’s fate,” Barbara Henning said in a statement.


    Alan Henning, who is being held hostage by Islamic State militants. Photograph: Family Handout/PA
    “We are at a loss why those leading Islamic State cannot open their hearts and minds to the facts surrounding Alan’s imprisonment and why they continue to threaten his life.”

    Barbara Henning said she had been told that her husband had been found innocent of being a spy by a sharia court. “I implore Islamic State to abide by the decisions of their own justice system. Please release Alan.”

    Earlier this month, the Guardian recorded a live online talk in which Faisal condemned others for not supporting Isis. During his 45-minute talk delivered from Jamaica, Faisal was heard saying: “Instead of embracing the Islamic State, supporting the Islamic State and doing everything humanly possible for the success of the state … all they do is slander the mujahideen,” he said.

    The scholar, who has a reputation for describing many Muslim groups as heretics who should be condemned to death, recently tweeted that Isis was a punishment from Allah for “all fake Muslims who don’t want Islam”.

    He has described women captured by Isis militants during the conflict as the “spoils of war”.

    Towards the end of the video, which appears to have been filmed on a mobile phone, Faisal warns Isis of the consequences of killing Henning: “Killing him has no blessing, it will backfire on the Islamic State in a very bad way, the damage will not be able to be repaired.”



    The video is available on the main link

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YNKt1UqDPL4&feature=youtu.be


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1073 - September 24, 2014, 01:44 PM

    Samira Saleh Ali al-Neaimi is a very brave lady. Was a very brave lady :(

    The dilemma for sunnis Under Is control is do you speak out against the terrible injustice and brutality and get killed or do you keep quiet and live.

    Not a nice choice.

    What would you choose?

    She no doubt thought her criticism of destruction of Mosul sites would be tolerated
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1074 - September 24, 2014, 01:46 PM

    I should say she hoped it might be tolerated. She no doubt knew the risk she was taking.

    She is a real heroine

    RIP Samira Saleh Ali al-Neaimi
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1075 - September 24, 2014, 01:52 PM

    Never mind what can happen if Mosul is retaken by extremist Shia militias. Or perhaps not Mosul. But other areas with less eyes on them. I can see people being put against the wall and shot on the spot. Already hundreds of Sunni prisoners have been massacred by their Shia guards.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1076 - September 24, 2014, 01:55 PM

    Yeah it is an unbelievably horrible situation.

    Fuck stupid sectarianism.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1077 - September 24, 2014, 02:20 PM

    So the US, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrian, UAE and Qatar are bombing IS *AND* the currently FSA-allied Jabhat al-Nusra. Assad allegedly approves so it is OK by international law however the US says it did not ask for permission (which should be given by the UN Security Council).

    Not sure this is good. The Kurds in YPG had already stopped IS' advance in Kobani and cleared several villages which was taken earlier by them.


    Of course it is good, they are not bombing territory controlled by Assad, they are bombing the territory of IS, which Assad lost a long time ago and is in no position to complain about. And international law has no real meaning if the international community doesn't have the will to enforce it.  What is the new source that says the Kurds have stopped the advance of IS? I thought they were very happy about the airstrikes....
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1078 - September 24, 2014, 02:28 PM

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Well at least these Islamic heroes   handed over Al-Neaimi's body  to her family. Often in such cases you see only head that is separated from the body.


    Breaks my heart.

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1079 - September 24, 2014, 02:29 PM

    I think John Kerry made a real blunder of his CNN interview. He said that some dodgy elements of the opposition in Syria were funded by governments, without revealing which governments were involved (i.e. whether it was Qatar, Saudi, or USA itself), but that funding has now stopped. He was very vague in a bad way. Conspiracy theorists are going to have a field day of this.


    It is at 2:40 onwards:

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/24/politics/kerry-on-isis/index.html

    I really want to know what specifically he is talking about. Which government funded which dodgy group?
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