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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1230 - October 03, 2014, 10:17 AM

    Yes they do, I agree and understand that, it is just I think a civil relationship with the Kurds with cooperation is better than standing back from tackling a bigger threat in terms of Daesh (IS/ISIS).

    Daesh wants to take over all of Turkey, Kurds only want part of it.


    If Daesh did make an assault on Turkey one would think they would change the game completely. Turkey is part of NATO, so presumably the other NATO countries (27 of them) would need to live up to the treaties they signed.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1231 - October 03, 2014, 11:43 AM

    This from former Pentagon chief Leon Panetta  is worth reading on that Iraq and ISIS thugs

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1232 - October 03, 2014, 11:49 AM

    If Daesh did make an assault on Turkey one would think they would change the game completely. Turkey is part of NATO, so presumably the other NATO countries (27 of them) would need to live up to the treaties they signed.


    True, but statement still stands, either way they will be forced to do the same thing. US is in talks with Kurds therefore Turkey will have to side with the Kurds in any action they now have accepted in doing.

    It is a very interesting time indeed.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1233 - October 03, 2014, 12:47 PM

    I got an email from a friend yesterday, one of her friends works in international aid in northern Iraq, he said in some kurdish viliage Isis are going door to door and beheading all the children and leaving the parents alive... Unbelievable cruelty..  :( 
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1234 - October 03, 2014, 12:55 PM

    I got an email from a friend yesterday, one of her friends works in international aid in northern Iraq, he said in some kurdish viliage Isis are going door to door and beheading all the children and leaving the parents alive... Unbelievable cruelty..  :( 


    Urghh.

    Reminds me of this Bible story.

    Quote
    When [the Magi] had gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream. Get up, he said, take the child and his mother and escape to Egypt. Stay there until I tell you, for Herod is going to search for the child to kill him. So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night and left for Egypt, where he stayed until the death of Herod. And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: "Out of Egypt I called my son."[8] When Herod realised that he had been outwitted by the Magi, he was furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old or under, in accordance with the time he had learned from the Magi. Then what was said through the prophet Jeremiah was fulfilled: "A voice is heard in Ramah, weeping and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more."[3]


    Matthew 2:16–18

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Innocents
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1235 - October 03, 2014, 08:26 PM

    Quote
    Alan Henning 'killed by Islamic State'

    A video purporting to show the beheading of British hostage Alan Henning has been released by Islamic State militants.

    The Salford taxi driver was delivering aid to Syria in December when he was kidnapped then held hostage by IS.

    IS had threatened to kill him in a video showing the killing of UK hostage David Haines released last month.

    On Tuesday, Mr Henning's wife Barbara appealed for his release, saying: "He is innocent."


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29485405

  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1236 - October 03, 2014, 08:35 PM

    So, the bloke in Oklahoma who beheaded someone. The imam at his mosque has apologised to the islamic state for speaking out against them.

    http://ellacollinsinstitute.org/shame-on-me-a-commitment-to-discourse-instead-of-demonization-by-suhaib-webb/

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1237 - October 03, 2014, 08:37 PM

    Lovely. The world needs more fuckwits.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1238 - October 03, 2014, 08:40 PM

    So, the bloke in Oklahoma who beheaded someone. The imam at his mosque has apologised to the islamic state for speaking out against them.

    http://ellacollinsinstitute.org/shame-on-me-a-commitment-to-discourse-instead-of-demonization-by-suhaib-webb/


    Feck sake! Rule of the loonies!

  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1239 - October 03, 2014, 08:50 PM

    Here's the twat in question bashing Ayaan Hirsi Ali and secularism as a “radical lunatic ideology”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HES6TpiVC-g&feature=player_embedded

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1240 - October 03, 2014, 08:52 PM

    Yes, cause you are so totally abused in America.

    Jeez, guy needs to be put in stocks!
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1241 - October 03, 2014, 09:24 PM

    In the Alan Henning execution video, 'Jihadi John' addresses Obama and says "you have started your aerial bombardment in Sham, which keeps on striking our people, so its only right we continue to strike the necks of your people." 

    It would have been interesting if he quoted quranic verses such as chapter 47 verse 4, or chapter 8 verse 12, to show everyone where they got the nasty idea of 'striking necks'.

    Eid Mubarak everyone.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1242 - October 03, 2014, 09:28 PM

    In the Alan Henning execution video, 'Jihadi John' addresses Obama and says "you have started your aerial bombardment in Sham, which keeps on striking our people, so its only right we continue to strike the necks of your people." 

    It would have been interesting if he quoted quranic verses such as chapter 47 verse 4, or chapter 8 verse 12, to show everyone where they got the nasty idea of 'striking necks'.


    Can someone on the Cemb-forum twitter feed post this info please?
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1243 - October 03, 2014, 09:56 PM

    True, but statement still stands, either way they will be forced to do the same thing. US is in talks with Kurds therefore Turkey will have to side with the Kurds in any action they now have accepted in doing.

    It is a very interesting time indeed.


    hmmm. things have a way of taking unexpected turns. I wouldn't be totally surprised if the Turks decided to make an end to the whole problem by piling into the Kurds as well.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1244 - October 03, 2014, 10:02 PM

    Woopdeewoop!
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1245 - October 03, 2014, 10:29 PM

    Here's the twat in question bashing Ayaan Hirsi Ali and secularism as a “radical lunatic ideology”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HES6TpiVC-g&feature=player_embedded


    "secularism as a “radical lunatic ideology"

    So what happened to not demonizing those you disagree with Mr Webb as per your article?

    So this is Mr Webb's position:

    Islamic State (pro-beheading): "Apologies for demonising them"

    Ayaan Hirsi Ali + Secularists (anti-beheading): "That woman is an idiot, and secularists are radical lunatics"

    ^^This is what happens to your brain on religion^^

    To use the title of your own article "Shame on you" Mr Webb

    I am better than your god......and so are you.

    "Is the man who buys a magic rock, really more gullible than the man who buys an invisible magic rock?.......,...... At least the first guy has a rock!"
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1246 - October 03, 2014, 10:48 PM

    Webb is the archetypal convert 'moderate' who is really a bigot. It oozes out of him.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1247 - October 03, 2014, 11:03 PM

    He is the type of person that makes you feel like you need 10 showers after meeting them.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1248 - October 03, 2014, 11:52 PM

    Here's the twat in question bashing Ayaan Hirsi Ali and secularism as a “radical lunatic ideology”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HES6TpiVC-g&feature=player_embedded


    Hmm..   That fool does sound like lunatic and he didn't leave his gang mentality., In fact it appears that it is increased after he became Muslim..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaoKv1zRkjA

    this is good one...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZK5NOemJ7k

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJG5myXHxiA

    idiots that are lost in AMRIKA  spiteful spiritual  jungle..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1249 - October 04, 2014, 12:19 AM

    Spiteful spiritual jungle. Interesting.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1250 - October 04, 2014, 12:57 AM

    @mehdirhasan
    Not sure which Quran ISIS follows. In mine, 113 of the 114 chapters begin by introducing God as the 'most merciful' & 'most compassionate'.

     vomit vomit vomit

    19:46   <zizo>: hugs could pimp u into sex

    Quote from: yeezevee
    well I am neither ex-Muslim nor absolute 100% Non-Muslim.. I am fucking Zebra

  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1251 - October 04, 2014, 12:58 AM

    yeah, the mercy and compassion of the abuser who says you're going to suffer if you don't do as I say


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1252 - October 04, 2014, 01:06 AM

    They released the beheading video of the second British hostage earlier on today.  Disgusting beyond measure. 

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1253 - October 04, 2014, 01:07 AM

    You know what they say. Two heads are better than one.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1254 - October 04, 2014, 06:42 AM

    Really thought Alan Henning would be released, i was moved by his wifes courageous plea to the kidnappers.. 
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1255 - October 04, 2014, 02:05 PM

    I would of been surprised if he'd been released.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1256 - October 04, 2014, 02:19 PM

    Well, much of what ISIS does is actually pretty sound from an Islamic standpoint. Murdering Alan, though, doesn't really have much textual backing and would most probably be considered haram even by the most hardline interpretations. Alan was there only to provide aid and quite literally sought shelter amongst Muslims. There really was no possible suspicion he could have been a fighter or a spy as could have been said about the journalists.

    "And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah . Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know." 9:6

    "Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly." 60:8

    "Who ever kills a person under pact of security shall not smell the fragrance of paradise." -Hadith

    The rapes, the beheadings, the slavery, all that stuff was kosher under Islamic rules of war. This, though, even using the rules they claim to use, was a murder pure and simple.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1257 - October 04, 2014, 03:31 PM

    Interesting Happymurtad! Good information, still the emphasis sucks but it is now even more depraved given them reneging on their beliefs and aims in terms of the laws they want implementing (Daesh).
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1258 - October 04, 2014, 03:40 PM

    yes, and jihadi apologists have been objecting to it precisely on those technical grounds


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1259 - October 04, 2014, 03:47 PM

    Which is better than nothing but seriously, technical grounds? Not due to a "do unto others as you would have done to yourself." Sometimes wonder whether they are so self-loathing they would kill themselves on those grounds if the conditions were right, therefore see it as right to kill others on that rationale too.
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