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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1260 - October 04, 2014, 03:52 PM

    ^ "And if We had decreed upon them, "Kill yourselves" or "Leave your homes," they would not have done it, except for a few of them. But if they had done what they were instructed, it would have been better for them and a firmer position [for them in faith]." Qur'an 4:66
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1261 - October 04, 2014, 03:55 PM

    Urghhh, is that about pagans or about Muslims?
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1262 - October 04, 2014, 03:59 PM

    Muslims who the Qur'an considers to be hypocrites because they won't follow every command of the prophet, even when it goes against their good conscience. Read the context. The Quran is such a fucking ridiculous book it's scary.

    (excuse the "to tops". I can't be bothered to edit them out.)
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    Sahih International
    Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut, while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray.
    4:61
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    4:61
    Sahih International
    And when it is said to them, "Come to what Allah has revealed and to the Messenger," you see the hypocrites turning away from you in aversion.
    4:62
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    4:62
    Sahih International
    So how [will it be] when disaster strikes them because of what their hands have put forth and then they come to you swearing by Allah , "We intended nothing but good conduct and accommodation."
    4:63
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    4:63
    Sahih International
    Those are the ones of whom Allah knows what is in their hearts, so turn away from them but admonish them and speak to them a far-reaching word.
    4:64
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    4:64
    Sahih International
    And We did not send any messenger except to be obeyed by permission of Allah . And if, when they wronged themselves, they had come to you, [O Muhammad], and asked forgiveness of Allah and the Messenger had asked forgiveness for them, they would have found Allah Accepting of repentance and Merciful.
    4:65
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    4:65
    Sahih International
    But no, by your Lord, they will not [truly] believe until they make you, [O Muhammad], judge concerning that over which they dispute among themselves and then find within themselves no discomfort from what you have judged and submit in [full, willing] submission.
    4:66
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    4:66
    Sahih International
    And if We had decreed upon them, "Kill yourselves" or "Leave your homes," they would not have done it, except for a few of them. But if they had done what they were instructed, it would have been better for them and a firmer position [for them in faith].
    4:67
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    4:67
    Sahih International
    And then We would have given them from Us a great reward.
    4:68
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    4:68
    Sahih International
    And We would have guided them to a straight path.
    4:69
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    4:69
    Sahih International
    And whoever obeys Allah and the Messenger - those will be with the ones upon whom Allah has bestowed favor of the prophets, the steadfast affirmers of truth, the martyrs and the righteous. And excellent are those as companions.
    4:70
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    4:70
    Sahih International
    That is the bounty from Allah , and sufficient is Allah as Knower.

  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1263 - October 04, 2014, 04:02 PM

    Which is better than nothing

    I'm not sure it is. If you can argue in favour of rape, slavery, murder, ethnic cleansing, human rights violations, war crimes, disagreeing not because those things are unacceptable but because they weren't done the right way, I don't see it as any better than silence. It's equally fucked up.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1264 - October 04, 2014, 04:07 PM

    Muslims who the Qur'an considers to be hypocrites because they won't follow every command of the prophet, even when it goes against their good conscience. Read the context. The Quran is such a fucking ridiculous book it's scary.

    (excuse the "to tops". I can't be bothered to edit them out.)


    Thanks for providing the surrounding verses HM. It is ridiculous.

    I'm not sure it is. If you can argue in favour of rape, slavery, murder, ethnic cleansing, human rights violations, war crimes, disagreeing not because those things are unacceptable but because they weren't done the right way, I don't see it as any better than silence. It's equally fucked up.


    True, didn't think deep enough. Thing is that is the rub, to do so they would effectively become non-believers and they don't want to do that cause of the Jahannam threat.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1265 - October 04, 2014, 04:10 PM

    Ma sha Allah!

    ISIS losing hearts and minds in its heartland

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    There may be a war on, but fighters for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in the northeastern city Syrian of Raqqa will be partying this weekend.

    Their leader, Abu Baker al-Baghdadi, has decreed that each man in his ranks in the city will receive a pay bonus, as well as a lamb to roast for the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Adha.

    Their subjects -- however many of the roughly 220,000 Raqqa residents remain in the city -- aren't so lucky. Many were poor to start with, and they've become poorer since this small city was taken over by ISIS extremists.

    Many will eat their Eid meal in a soup kitchen, paid for by the few wealthy citizens who can still afford to bankroll charity.

    "Abu Ibrahim al-Raqqawi," an alias adopted for his own safety, is an activist in Raqqa; a member of a collective which calls itself "Raqqa is being slaughtered silently." He and his compatriots are dedicated to letting the outside world know what life is like in the city that's become ISIS' command center and the de facto capital of the group's self-declared "Islamic State."

    The perks for fighters started right away, he told CBS News in a phone interview from the area.

    "As soon as they arrived, they became the elite of the community," he said of the ISIS fighters. "They were given comfortable homes and cars -- and they get a generous salary every month."


    It's bound to fuel local resentment, especially as the favoritism appears to extend to essential services, like medical care.

    "Raqqa's hospitals are now all shut down," says Ibrahim. "Their premises have either been turned into ISIS headquarters, or abandoned by the doctors and nursing staff because there are no more medical supplies."

    "Anyone who needs care has to travel to Turkey," says Ibrahim. "It's a rough and dangerous journey and some just don't make it."

    The ISIS fighters wounded in battle or airstrikes, however, get treatment at local clinics run exclusively for them and their families.

    "Recently, a bombing by the Syrian government left many people, including fighters, badly hurt," says Ibrahim. "We ran to help and saw ISIS trucks arrive and remove their men for treatment, leaving the civilians just lying there."

    There are also reports of boys as young as 14 and 15 being snatched from their families and sent to training camps to become ISIS warriors.

    According to the U.K.-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), a monitoring group which relies on a network of activists inside Syria, oil prices in Raqqa have almost doubled since U.S. airstrikes began bombing ISIS targets. That, according to SOHR, has forced merchants at ISIS-controlled markets to hike up their prices beyond the means of locals.

    "ISIS is now selling fuel for 5,000-7,000 Syrian Lyras (about $6.00 per gallon)," SOHR said. "Prices vary from one refinery to another, and there is a lot of tension in the city because of the constantly deteriorating economic situation."

    SOHR posted the picture above, and others like it, showing ISIS fighters enjoying a feast at a local 5-star restaurant, which "only ISIS fighters and members of the Hesbah police (ISIS' Islamic police force) could afford."

    Resentment simmers among many people in Raqqa, but it's too dangerous to let it show.

    "They control Raqqa with an iron fist," says Ibrahim. "The Hesbah patrols are on every corner." Many of them are foreign -- Americans, Dutch and British -- but anyone who approaches them to talk is immediately warned off by armed men.

    ISIS militants have executed at least two young activists from Ibrahim's group.

    The main challenge for those left is what's known locally as the "al-Khansaa Brigade," an ISIS unit -- predominantly foreign -- of women who handle security and intelligence in Raqqa.

    "The ones walking around with guns are harmless, because they can easily be spotted," says Ibrahim. "The danger comes from undercover female jihadis, who walk around looking for anyone breaking ISIS law."

    So the people of Raqqa, by and large, are forced to toe the line and follow the diktats of their new rulers. But along with the smell of lamb, roasting in the commandeered ISIS house on this Eid holiday, there will be growing bitterness in the wind.


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1266 - October 04, 2014, 05:17 PM

    I would of been surprised if he'd been released.


    I just thought he may have been the one to get away with it, especially after hearing that he was tried in a shariah court and found innocent, along with his wifes endless messages to IS, sometimes the most hardened muslim extremist is softened by a strong courageous wifes plea.  I cant bring myself to watch the vids but i saw a pic of his head, unbelievably grim
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1267 - October 04, 2014, 05:50 PM

    Well one more reason to chop off his head. To show that IS doesn't give a shit and you either embrace their Islam or die. Or both.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1268 - October 04, 2014, 05:55 PM

    A tale of two caliphates: Hospitals shut down and boys sent to terror camps in Syrian stronghold... while ISIS fighters dine out in 5-star restaurants



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    Jihadi fighters have long boasted of five-style life while fighting for ISIS
    They have been pictured swimming in hotel pools and dining in restaurants
    Fighters in Raqqa have been given pay-rise and lamb to eat for Eid festival
    But city's poor have seen life worsen as they are left to fend for themselves
    Hospitals have closed and many die trying to get to Turkey for treatment


    Since militant group ISIS claimed to have established an Islamic caliphate, the city of Raqqa has become known as its fanatical capital.

    But reports from groups inside the city say there is growing resentment between the poor, who have been largely left to fend for themselves, and Islamic fighters, who live a life of five-star luxury.

    While fighters have each been given a pay-rise and a roast lamb to feast on for the festival of Eid al-Adha, the poor have been left to suffer as food an fuel prices spike.






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    Militants have been pictured dining out in five-star restaurants and soaking in hotel pools, while many citizens of Raqqa are now wholly dependent on the few wealthy citizens who still bankroll charities.

    Civilians hospitals have also been closed down as doctors abandon their posts, or run out of medical supplies, leaving people to travel to Turkey for medical help, with many dying along the way.

    Speaking to CBS, a source who used the fake name of Abu Ibrahim al-Raqqawi, said: 'As soon as they arrived, they became the elite of the community.

    'They were given comfortable homes and cars -- and they get a generous salary every month.

    'Recently, a bombing left many people, including fighters, badly hurt. 'We ran to help and saw ISIS trucks arrive and remove their men for treatment, leaving the civilians just lying there.'

    There are also reports of boys as young as 14 and 15 being snatched from their families and sent to training camps to become ISIS warriors.

    The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights claims sources have spoken of growing unrest in the city between residents and their new leaders.

    Many have objected to the harsh punishments handed out by the Hesbah patrols, who have been brought into to enforce strict Sharia laws.

    Residents say that while they have turned a blind eye to manipulative traders hiking food and fuel prices, they mercilessly punish minor infringement such as smoking cigarettes. 

    There has also been growing resentment against the al-Khansaa Brigade, a female patrol thought to contain several British jihadis, who patrol in disguise unlike their male counterparts.


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     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1269 - October 04, 2014, 06:16 PM

    A bit of national bipartisan flag-waving (disclaimer: I am a (very inactive) member of this party):

    Left-Wing Danish Party Backs Syrian Kurdish Rebels
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    COPENHAGEN, Denmark—Kurdish organizations and a leftist party in Denmark have donated funds to support Kurdish rebels engaged in fierce battles with Islamic State militants in Syria.

    Salih Muslim, the leader of the Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD), on Friday received 155,500 kronor ($26,350), in the Danish Parliament. The leftist party Unity List presented Muslim with a check for 53,500 kroner ($9,000), while various Kurdish organizations in Denmark gave 102,000 kroner ($17,290).

    "As Europe we should support the Kurds in Syria like we support the Kurds in Iraq. The Kurds in Syria are urgently in need of weapons if they are to stop the Islamic State (IS), so we are giving the money without conditions," an MP from the Unity List, Nikolaj Villumsen told Rudaw.

    "It is a symbolic amount, but our goal is to make an appeal to Europe to support the Kurds in Syria," he said.

    Muslim, who was presented with the money during a news conference in the Danish Parliament, said he was emboldened by the donations. He said local authorities would distribute the funds in Kobane, where PYD fighters are battling IS militants for the Kurdish city which is strategically located near the Turkish border.

    "For us it's not the money that matters,” he said. “Rather, it’s the recognition that we have received from our Danish friends."

    Danish support for the PYD split the Parliament in the small Scandinavian country. Soren Espersen, an MP and foreign affairs spokesman for the Danish People's Party, criticized the Unity List saying the donations may be illegal because the PYD is connected to the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which is designated a terrorist organization by the European Union and NATO.

    "The Unity List shouldn’t support parties they don’t know well. Nobody should directly or indirectly raise money for groups on the terrorist list,” Espersen told Rudaw.

    "We are already supporting Iraqi Kurds with a lot of weapons. They have a recognized army. But we don’t know whom we’re supporting, if we send money and weapons to Syrian Kurds,” Espersen added.

    Despite the PYD’s controversial status, the Danish Foreign Affairs Ministry agreed to a low-level meeting with Muslim during his visit in Denmark.

    Pelle Dragsted, spokesman for the Unity List, rejected the criticism and stressed that "the money will go to PYD and not the PKK."
    "We have investigated the matter and can ensure that the money won’t fall into the wrong hands," Dragsted said.

    According to Villumsen, local branches of the Unity List raised the funds.

    Muslim criticized the international community for its "inaction and failure in Rojava," the Kurdish name for Kurdish-majority areas in Syria.

    "For years we have tried to make the international community hear our voice. The world woke up once IS entered Mosul in June,” Muslim said.

    Dragsted said the PYD "stands on the frontlines" in Syria.

    "The Kurds, Christians and Arabs in northern Syria have long been under attack by IS. We must support them," Dragsted said.

    The Unity List doesn’t support the PKK’s designation as a terrorist organization, noting that since last year Turkey and the PKK have engaged in peace talks.

    "It’s absurd that we label the PKK as terrorists when even Turkey meets and negotiates with them. If we are to support peace negotiations, we must remove the terrorist label,” Dragsted said.

    The Unity List was the only one party to vote against the Danish Parliament’s decision last week to send seven F-16 fighter jets and 140 support staff to Iraq to fight IS. Denmark is also providing humanitarian relief for refugees.

    The party instead suggested arming the Kurdish forces in Syria, a proposal that was rejected by the other parties in Danish parliament.



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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1270 - October 04, 2014, 07:09 PM

    Well one more reason to chop off his head. To show that IS doesn't give a shit and you either embrace their Islam or die. Or both.


    hey yeah true..  I guess his wife was hoping that IS would somehow listen to her if she made a direct plea but nope.. 
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1271 - October 04, 2014, 07:31 PM

    Sudden outbreak of common sense


    In rare alliance, Shi'ites join Sunnis to defend Iraqi towns


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    (Reuters) - When Islamic State fighters tried to storm the Tigris River town of Dhuluiya north of Baghdad this week, they were repelled by a rare coalition of Sunni tribal fighters inside the town and Shi'ites in its sister city Balad on the opposite bank.

    The assault, which began late on Tuesday and ran into Thursday, was one of several major battles in recent days in which Sunni tribes joined pro-government forces against the militants, in what Baghdad and Washington hope is a sign of increasing cooperation across sectarian lines to save the country.

    Further north, another powerful Sunni tribe fought alongside Kurdish forces to drive Islamic State fighters from Rabia, a town controlling one of the main border checkpoints used by fighters pouring in from Syria.

    In western Iraq, Sunni tribes have fought alongside government troops in Hit, which was captured by Islamic State fighters on Thursday, and in Haditha, site of a strategic dam on the Euphrates.

    Such local alliances are still rare: in most Sunni areas of Iraq, tribes have shown little sign of turning against militants as they did when they were recruited by U.S. troops in 2006-07. Many of the leaders of that Sunni "Awakening" movement were later arrested by Baghdad, in what Sunnis see as a betrayal.

    Sectarian and ethnic animosity runs deep after a decade of civil war that has touched nearly every family, making it difficult for Sunnis, Shi'ites and Kurds to trust each other.

    But nearly two months into a U.S.-led bombing campaign, this week's battles have provided the strongest early signs yet of what Washington and Baghdad hope could be a revival of the alliance with tribes to counter Islamic State.

    "DEFENDING THEIR OWN FAMILIES"

    Dhuluiya, which comes from the word "ribs", is a small town surrounded on three sides by a kink in the Tigris. A north-south highway runs through it, making it potentially one of the final stops for fighters attempting to assault Baghdad from the north.

    When Islamic State fighters arrived in June, members of the al-Jubouri tribe refused their request to hand over 35 local police and security forces officers. Since then, there have been attacks and counter-attacks, while the Sunni tribesmen have been mostly besieged inside the town.

    With no way out, they began receiving help from Balad, the mainly Shi'ite sister town on the opposite bank.

    "We have no access now except using boats to go to Balad, the only place which helps us. The people of Balad have helped us with food, ammunition, weapons and receiving the wounded," said Abdullah Mohammed, a fighter from the Jubour tribe. "Some of them even fight with us."

    The Dhuluiya municipality chief, Turki Khalaf Turki, said the cooperation could be a model for the country: "The starting point of unity in Iraq will be Dhuluiya, which wanted unity, while Islamic State wants sedition."

    On Tuesday, the fighters launched what appeared to be a coordinated assault to capture the town once and for all. Insurgents flanked Dhuluiya from the eastern and northern sides, using mortars, RPG rounds, machine guns and hand grenades, Colonel Hussein al-Jubouri from Dhuluiya's police force said.

    "We were able to stop them and our people have high morale because they are defending their town and families," he told Reuters on Wednesday, adding that the area was being targeted by mortars as they spoke. Nine residents and four fighters died.

    Across the river, the insurgents also launched an attack on Balad near a Shi'ite shrine that would have allowed them to complete their siege of Dhuluiya. Abu Gyath, an influential Shi'ite sheikh, said fighters in Balad defended the territory to help the tribesmen across the river.

    "If they control this area, God forbid, then Dhuluiya will be suffocated and it will be hard for us to send help. Otherwise, we pledged to help them as they are in a difficult situation," he said.

    On Friday, eyewitnesses said Iraqi forces had recaptured Dhuluiya. They said a military commander had arrived to announce the "liberation" of the town, which is about 70 km (45 miles) north of Baghdad.

    "FULL COOPERATION"

    While such cooperation is rare, it is not unique.

    In the north, members of the Shammar tribe helped Kurdish troops known as Peshmerga capture Rabia on Tuesday, the main border crossing between northern Iraq and Islamic State-held territory in eastern Syria.

    Abdullah Yawar, a leading member of the tribe who long had an acrimonious relationship with Kurds, said he had been negotiating an alliance with Kurdish regional leader Massoud Barzani since Islamic State fighters swept into the north's biggest city Mosul in June.

    Ahead of this week's Kurdish assault on Rabia, Yawar communicated with people inside the town to tell them that the forces coming to take it were "friendly".

    "All of the Shammar are with the Peshmerga, and there is full cooperation between us," he told Reuters after the battle.

    In Hit, a Euphrates River town west of Baghdad that fell to the militants on Thursday, the Sunni Albu Nimr tribe has reportedly clashed with the insurgents.

    "When we saw Islamic State killing civilians, innocent people, destroying houses, they even took some of our men and we don't know their destiny till now," a member of the Albu Nimr tribe who declined to be named told Reuters.

    "When we discovered their behaviour and actions against Islamic teachings, we decided to stand against them, and we decided to fight any people standing against the army and the government."

    In Haditha, a town by a strategic dam on the Euphrates further west, the Jaghaifi tribe has also allied with the security forces to thwart several attacks by Islamic State.

    Ehsan al-Shimmeri, a political science professor at the University of Baghdad, said he saw an echo of the 2006-2007 "Awakening" movement.

    "I think it represents a big transformation in fighting Islamic State at the level of Iraqi society," he said.


    THIS MEANS WAR

    In Dhuluiya, al-Jubouri tribal leaders initially hoped to avoid a clash with Islamic State when the fighters first stormed the town's outskirts in about 25 vehicles on June 14, four days after capturing Mosul.

    The fighters told the townspeople their target was Baghdad and they did not plan to fight for control of Dhuluiya. A policeman recalled them announcing: "We just want to enter the town so that we can announce we've overrun it, put our flags on the buildings and leave."

    Tribal leader Sheikh Mohammed Khamees was among a group of representatives of the town who met the fighters. Keen to avoid confrontation, Khamees initially agreed to let them enter.

    But when the insurgents demanded the tribes hand over 35 security officers, "the tribe held a meeting, their demands were refused and we raised our weapons against them," Khamees told Reuters. "They said his means declaring war against us."

    And so the battles began. On July 5, the militants launched a multi-pronged assault on the town, and exploded a wooden bridge that linked Balad to Dhuluiya. Police say more than 90 people have been killed and more than 400 wounded since June.

    The decision by the town's Sunni tribesmen to hold out was praised in a sermon by a representative of Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, Iraq's top Shi'ite cleric, who called on the army to help them.

    The alliance between Sunni Dhuluiya and Shi'ite Balad has required people in both towns to overcome sectarian animosity built up during a decade of war.

    Abu Gyath, the Shi'ite sheikh in Balad who helped rally the town to the defence of Sunnis in Dhuluiya, said Sunni militants shot dead one of his sons in 2008 and another son was killed in a car bombing in 2011. But the arrival of Islamic State fighters persuaded him to overcome his animosity towards his Sunni neighbours to confront the bigger threat.

    "Yes I wish to retaliate for the killings of my sons. But I feel sad now when I hear that the bombings (by Islamic State militants) have targeted any Sunni village," he told Reuters. "Although Balad was targeted a lot in the past, now Balad's people are helping Dhuluiya in this difficult time."

    "Continuing this relationship is not easy, it needs time, and some people have to clean their hearts."

    (Writing by Yara Bayoumy; Editing by Peter Graff)


    "Turki Khalaf Turki" is a funny name to see there for me. Here in Denmark everyone with the Khalaf last name is a Yezidi. If he is Arab and not Turkmen it gets even weirder.

    Also the Shammar tribe is *HUGE* and is very influential in Mosul. I wouldn't be surprised if Mosul rebels and asks the (predominantly Sunni) Kurds to take it (to protect them from repercussions by Shia militants and Iraqi military) and hold it until things settle down.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1272 - October 05, 2014, 08:44 AM

    Ma sha Allah!

    Pakistani Taliban declare allegiance to Islamic State and global jihad

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    (Reuters) - The Pakistani Taliban declared allegiance to Islamic State on Saturday and ordered militants across the region to help the Middle Eastern jihadist group in its campaign to set up a global Islamic caliphate.

    Islamic State, which controls swathes of land in Syria and Iraq, has been making inroads into South Asia, which has traditionally been dominated by local Taliban insurgencies against both the Pakistan and Afghanistan governments.

    The announcement comes after a September move by al Qaeda chief, Ayman al-Zawahri, to name former Taliban commander Asim Umar as the "emir" of a new South Asia branch of the network that masterminded the 2001 attacks on the United States.

    Although there is little evidence of a firm alliance yet between IS and al Qaeda-linked Taliban commanders, IS activists have been spotted recently in the Pakistani city of Peshawar distributing pamphlets praising the group.

    IS flags have also been seen at street rallies in Indian-administered Kashmir. The trend has been of growing concern to global powers struggling to keep up with the fast-changing nature of the international Islamist insurgency.

    In a message marking the Muslim holy festival of Eid al-Adha, the Pakistani Taliban said they fully supported IS goals.

    "Oh our brothers, we are proud of you in your victories. We are with you in your happiness and your sorrow," Taliban spokesman Shahidullah Shahid said in a statement sent to Reuters by email from an unknown location.

    "In these troubled days, we call for your patience and stability, especially now that all your enemies are united against you. Please put all your rivalries behind you ...

    "All Muslims in the world have great expectations of you ... We are with you, we will provide you with Mujahideen (fighters) and with every possible support."

    The statement, released in Urdu, Pashto and Arabic, was sent after Islamic State militants beheaded British aid worker Alan Henning in a video posted on Friday, triggering condemnation by the British and U.S. governments.

    It also came despite recent speculation that the Taliban leadership, whose goal is to topple the government and set up a Sharia state, is actually wary of IS, which is driven by different ambitions that have little to do with South Asia.

    The Pakistani Taliban, funded by local as well as foreign charity donations from wealthy supporters in the Gulf and elsewhere, operate separately from the Afghan insurgents of the same name, but are loosely aligned with them.

    There are concerns about further turmoil in the region as most U.S.-led foreign troops withdraw from Afghanistan this year, with groups like the Haqqani network likely to exploit the security vacuum to strengthen their hold on Afghan regions.

    The Haqqani network, despite being based in Pakistan, is narrowly focused on its insurgency in Afghanistan and has not commented on IS-related developments.

    The Pakistani Taliban have been beset by bitter internal rivalries over the past year, with the influential Mehsud tribal faction of the group refusing to accept the authority of Mullah Fazlullah, who came to power in late 2013.

    IS, in an effort to extend its global reach, could exploit these rivalries to its advantage, wading into a region ripe with fierce anti-Western ideology and full of young unemployed men ready to take up guns and fight for Islam.

    (Editing by Catherine Evans)


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1273 - October 05, 2014, 01:02 PM

    British Muslims on IS featured on CNN
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP3bKwSlpJI

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1274 - October 05, 2014, 01:13 PM

    just a reminder to everyone: do not post any graphic pictures or images here


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1275 - October 05, 2014, 02:21 PM

    Should I try to disprove Islam to this one,is it of use? =/
    https://twitter.com/SomaliWanderer/status/518485847004692481

    Also got a takfir, as if they've discovered a big secret
    https://twitter.com/AbuBakrAlSudani/status/518372077364334592
    Its in arabic, could someone confirm what he's saying, since I dont speak arabic. I know enough to guess that he's saying 'There's no doubt of his disbelief.Anyone who after this doubts his disbelief, is also a disbeliever.''
    Using google translate doesn't help, which translates kufroho into Hamlet Huh?
     ''There is no doubt in Hamlet. It is no doubt in Hamlet after the statement is an infidel also''
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1276 - October 05, 2014, 02:50 PM

    Google translate was a 100% correct. ITS A MIRACLE!

    أشهد أن لا إله
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1277 - October 05, 2014, 03:01 PM

    'There's no doubt of his disbelief. Anyone who after this statement doubts his disbelief, is also a disbeliever.''


    Yes that's what he said, but don't worry, I have defended you and replied to him with:

    لا شك في غباءك، ومن شك في غباءك بعد قولك هذا فهو غبي أيضا

    "There is no doubt about your stupidity and whoever doubts your stupidity after what you said is also stupid."

    That'll learn him! grin12
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1278 - October 05, 2014, 03:12 PM

    Thank you! Thats a really good response hahaha =D
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1279 - October 05, 2014, 03:14 PM

    Yes that's what he said, but don't worry, I have defended you and replied to him with:

    لا شك في غباءك، ومن شك في غباءك بعد قولك هذا فهو غبي أيضا

    There is no doubt about your stupidity and whoever doubts your stupidity after what you said is also stupid.

     grin12


    I think you just issued a fatwa.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1280 - October 05, 2014, 03:23 PM

    Oops, wrong thread.

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1281 - October 05, 2014, 05:58 PM

    I'm not sure how much this amounts to but... ‘We will turn Kobanê into hell for ISIS’
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1282 - October 05, 2014, 06:23 PM

    You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html

    Middle East Time Bomb: The Real Aim of ISIS Is to Replace the Saud Family as the New Emirs of Arabia

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-aim-saudi-arabia_b_5748744.html

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1283 - October 05, 2014, 06:26 PM

    Interesting times ^^^.

    Slightly scary but with other signs of optimism.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1284 - October 05, 2014, 06:43 PM

    Remember Zozan Cudi?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB5VEi64AKs

    Well, this is rumored to have been her blowing herself up today in Kobane.

    Kurdish woman suicide bomber attacks IS in Syria: monitor

    Quote
    Beirut (AFP) - A female Kurdish fighter carried out a suicide bomb attack against jihadists from the Islamic State group outside the embattled Syrian border town of Kobane on Sunday, a monitor said.

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the woman blew herself up at an Islamic State position east of the city, killing a number of jihadists who have surrounded Kobane and are battling to seize it.

    "The operation caused deaths, but there is no confirmed number," Observatory director Rami Abdel Rahman said.

    He said it was the first reported instance of a female Kurdish fighter carrying out a suicide bombing against the Islamic State group, which has itself often favoured the tactic.

    IS began its advance on Kobane, Syria's third largest Kurdish town, on September 16, seeking to cement its grip over a long stretch of the Syria-Turkey border.

    The fighting around the town, also known as Ain al-Arab, has prompted a mass exodus of residents from the area, with some 186,000 fleeing across the border into Turkey.


    Note that it is not unknown for Kurdish fighters to booby trap themselves because of the fate they meet at the hands of IS. With the news that IS beheaded 5 Kurdish fighters from YPG just recently, 3 of them women, she might have been overwhelmed at her position and blown herself up.

    EDIT: Apparently the female suicide bombers was not Zozan Cudi but YPJ commander Arin Mirkan. Here with what probably are her two children.


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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1285 - October 05, 2014, 06:52 PM

    Probably not religiously motivated, but would be easily assumed because of the region.
  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1286 - October 05, 2014, 06:57 PM

    For Kurds their lands are everything. Also they have a honour-culture where martyrs are revered deeply.

    They have a saying: "No friends but the mountains".

    15 year old Kurdish ex-hostage of IS:

    "They are right".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-duzk6fhc

    IS has released this video. They have taken the mountain south of the city. Perhaps one of you Arabniks can give a gist of what they are saying?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41zrflzlPF8

    Allegedly a mother and daughter at the front:



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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1287 - October 05, 2014, 08:01 PM

    Interesting documentary from VICE on Rojava (Syrian Kurdistan) from a year ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2zxlFQxkQ4

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1288 - October 05, 2014, 08:25 PM

    You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html

    This raises an interesting point. Many Muslims like to claim that "IS has nothing to do with Islam". Logically then, all of those Muslims (and anyone else who wants to say similar things) would also have to claim that KSA and indeed Salafism itself have nothing to do with Islam. That's going to be a rather difficult position to support.

    I also can't help wondering what all the Muslims who liked to brush aside criticism of sharia by saying the punishments would only be applied "in an Islamic state" are saying now that one has arisen and is applying those punishments as it sees fit. Yes, I know, they'll just say it's a Western conspiracy or something. Roll Eyes

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  • 'Islamic State' a.k.a. ISIL
     Reply #1289 - October 05, 2014, 08:47 PM

    the 'nothing to do with Islam' thing is the biggest fail possible

    Muslims want to say 'most Muslims don't agree with ISIS' and that's true and understandable fair enough saying, but saying its nothing to do with Islam is just total fail on every level

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


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