How evangelical is Islam?

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Reply #30 - July 24, 2014, 01:26 PM

Are you saying Muslims are not actually trustworthy?

People cannot be friendly with each other just for the sake of being friendly?

A Muslim in lands of Kuffar is being friendly because that is evangelising and not to do that is a sin?

That is messed up if I have understood it correctly.

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Reply #31 - July 24, 2014, 01:29 PM

Yup it is messed up moi! Sure most don't know that though and they seriously need to be kept occupied with non-religious based hobbies.
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Reply #32 - July 24, 2014, 01:32 PM

I can't remember where I read it, will root around for the reference. An Islamist 'rationalisation' for Muslims living in kuffar lands is that they are 'dar-al-dawah', lands that can be converted to Islam. So its OK for Muslims to live in non Muslim societies, as long as they can seek to convert people to Islam. That is the reason for living there, conceptually and theologically.

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Reply #33 - July 24, 2014, 01:52 PM

Quote from: moi on July 24, 2014, 01:26 PM
Are you saying Muslims are not actually trustworthy?

People cannot be friendly with each other just for the sake of being friendly?

A Muslim in lands of Kuffar is being friendly because that is evangelising and not to do that is a sin?

That is messed up if I have understood it correctly.

I'm certainly not saying Muslims are not trustworthy. Muslims are no different than any other group of human beings - they contain, good, bad and indifferent.

To generalise that Muslims are untrustworthy is to play straight into the hands of 'Taqiyya Tactician' mentality of many bigots these days who want to justify their bigotry, hatred, and even violence.

Without doubt Muslims frequently form very genuine relationships with non-Muslims without there being any hidden agenda to convert.

Having said that, many will be conscious of trying to show a 'good example' of Muslims and may even talk about Islam if the subject arises. But that is no more 'sinister' or "untrustworthy" than any other human being who shares their views, thoughts, beliefs, ideas etc... with friends.
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Reply #34 - July 24, 2014, 02:07 PM

The point is that most Muslims form friendships based on how much they like that person etc... and NOT solely to convert them.

You may find a minority of the more puritanical salafi type Muslims who might form a friendship for the sole reason of converting them.

But the vast majority? Certainly not!
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