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  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     OP - October 03, 2014, 04:12 PM

    Sweden to recognizes sovereign Palestinian state says news


    Sweden´s new government posing together with front from left, Crown Princess Victoria, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven, King Carl Gustaf and parliament speaker Urban Ahlin during cabinet meeting at the Royal Palace in Stockholm on Friday. – AP Photo
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    STOCKHOLM: Sweden's new centre-left government will recognise the state of Palestine in a move that will make it the first major European country to take the step, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said on Friday. The UN General Assembly approved the de facto recognition of the sovereign state of Palestine in 2012 but the European Union and most EU countries, have yet to give official recognition.

    “The conflict between Israel and Palestine can only be solved with a two-state solution, negotiated in accordance with international law,” Lofven said during his inaugural address in parliament. “A two-state solution requires mutual recognition and a will to peaceful co-existence. Sweden will therefore recognise the state of Palestine.”

    For the Palestinians, Sweden's move will be a welcome boost for its ambitions.

    With its reputation as an honest broker in international affairs and with an influential voice in EU foreign policy, the decision may well make other countries sit up and pay attention at a time when the Palestinians are threatening unilateral moves towards statehood.

    However, there is likely to be strong criticism of Sweden from Israel, as well as from the United States and the EU, which maintain that an independent Palestinian state should only emerge through a negotiated process. Within the EU, some countries, such as Hungary, Poland and Slovakia recognise Palestine, but they did so before joining the 28-member bloc.

    If the centre-left government fulfils its plans, Sweden would be the first country to recognise Palestine while being a member of the European Union. The Social Democrats and Greens hold a minority of seats in parliament and the incoming centre-left government is likely to be one of Sweden's weakest for decades.

    The former centre-right government would not recognise Palestine as the Palestinian authorities did not control their territory. The Palestinians want an independent state in the West Bank and Gaza, with its capital in East Jerusalem. While Gaza's boundaries are clearly defined, the precise territory of what would constitute Palestine in the West Bank and East Jerusalem will only be determined via negotiations with Israel on a two-state solution, negotiations which are currently suspended.

    good...good..good....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #1 - October 03, 2014, 05:37 PM

    Right on, Sweden  Afro

    "I'm standing here like an asshole holding my Charles Dickens"

    "No theory,No ready made system,no book that has ever been written to save the world. i cleave to no system.."-Bakunin
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #2 - October 03, 2014, 05:40 PM

    Cool.  yes
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #3 - October 03, 2014, 06:41 PM

    Where can I purchase Swedish flag in Malaysia? I want to wave Swedish flag and say "BRAVO SWEDEN, VIVA PALESTINA" out loud in public. Hehehe.....

    Religions + Politics = Problem
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #4 - October 03, 2014, 06:44 PM

    Ironic that I hear  about this first on CEMB Grin

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #5 - October 03, 2014, 07:07 PM

    Where can I purchase Swedish flag in Malaysia? I want to wave Swedish flag and say "BRAVO SWEDEN, VIVA PALESTINA" out loud in public. Hehehe.....


    Can't find a flag, but here is a substitute:

    (1) http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Swedish-Flag-T-shirt-Choice-of-size-colours-/231137758248?pt=UK_Women_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item35d0e24c28

    (2) http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/2-broken-hockey-sticks-carbon-fiber-composite-reebok-Easton-shafts-complete-/111469912839?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f41fe307

    (3) http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Araldite-4-minute-Super-Strong-Rapid-Steel-Epoxy-Glue-ARERPG-/231349290778?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_207&hash=item35dd7e071a

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #6 - October 03, 2014, 10:42 PM

    Well, I'm not really up to date on what happens here since the election which gave us a 13% strong far right party ( Sweden Democrats ).

    The Social Democrats has formed a rather weak minority coalition with the Green Party. In the Green Party you have MP Mehmet Kaplan, who is now going to take place in the Swedish government as a minister. He also took part in the Freedom Flotilla/Ship to Gaza movement and could potentially have had a word in this...  Wink

    When the new ministers were presented today they also came clear with previous sins and his sin was loosing his drivers license by speeding.
    I'd rather hear him come clear about why he invited a Yvonne Ridley to a conference and also he could clear up a bit his opinion on the jihadist "freedom fighters" of ISIL, of which he has said...:
    "jihadists were nothing to worry about and were similar to Swedish freedom fighters who joined the Finns in World War Two to fight the Soviets"


    I trust this guy as I trust the flu.


    But Palestine...  Afro
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #7 - October 03, 2014, 10:46 PM

    I'd be very surprised if anything really came of this. I don't see any future except Israel absorbing what remains of Palestine and the best case situation is that they're citizens with all the rights of any other Israeli. Maybe I'm just pessimistic about the whole thing.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #8 - October 04, 2014, 12:23 AM

    Its a good move by Sweden, and I hope other EU countries will follow suit. 

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #9 - October 04, 2014, 12:50 AM


    I'd rather hear him come clear about why he invited a Yvonne Ridley to a conference and also he could clear up a bit his opinion on the jihadist "freedom fighters" of ISIL, of which he has said...:
    "jihadists were nothing to worry about and were similar to Swedish freedom fighters who joined the Finns in World War Two to fight the Soviets"


    wow. just, wow. A member of the government?

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #10 - October 04, 2014, 04:31 AM

    ...................In the Green Party you have MP Mehmet Kaplan, ................

    I'd rather hear him come clear about why he invited a Yvonne Ridley to a conference ..................

     Hello dagon., well she is juicy juice peddling with Islam for a long time



    She is single and highly motivated so there is nothing wrong with that Turkish Mehmet meeting her ..
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    "jihadists were nothing to worry about and were similar to Swedish freedom fighters who joined the Finns in World War Two to fight the Soviets"

    True "jihadists are fighting for freedom., they want to be free from this world.

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    I trust this guy as I trust the flu.

    well it depends what kind flu does he bring to table,,
     
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    But Palestine...  Afro


    Yes.. viva Palestine.,  why only recognizing Palestine?   I will take all the walls out between Israelis and Palestinians if there is NO ISLAM .. or at least if Palestinian  Islamic Idiots take out that fucking HATE JUICE ELIMINATE JUICE  ISLAM..  and get rid of these IDIOTS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSEFQh88s5w

     FROM FACE OF THE EARTH WHO PREACH ISLAM for Arab Muslims..   hell why one by one.. WATCH ALL THOSE FUCKING PREACHERS TOGETHER  one by one..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV28b1_6HGU&list=PL4E04F2608F6A2AE6

    well we will a keep a close eye on that news and on that Turkey....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #11 - October 04, 2014, 05:43 AM

    Good news Smiley More pressure on Israel.

    Hopefully more will follow.


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  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #12 - October 04, 2014, 08:01 AM

    Yeezevee,
    Why do you only mention Islamic preachers? What about Zionist Rabbis that preach Zionist Jewish religious cr4ps?

    This is an example;
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/extremist-israeli-rabbi-dov-lior-calls-destruction-gaza-1457942

    Religions + Politics = Problem
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #13 - October 04, 2014, 08:45 AM

    wow. just, wow. A member of the government?



    We have several people like that within our political parties. One that comes to mind is Waberi, among others. Unfortunately...

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #14 - October 04, 2014, 11:21 AM

    Good news and a nice change from what I hear over here about "Our great ally Israel" -Harper
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #15 - October 04, 2014, 11:36 AM


    We have several people like that within our political parties. One that comes to mind is Waberi, among others. Unfortunately...


    perhaps the rise of the right wing nationalists is partly a response to the presence of people with views like that on the Left and in the government? The Left needs to deal with this shit.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #16 - October 04, 2014, 11:48 AM

    Meh. I don't think it's a reaction in that sense. The right wing nutters would've been a factor either way. Party leader for Sweden Democrats Jimmy Åkeson said, when asked whether he has had any actual experience with the "downsides" of "multiculturalism", that when he was a kid, a couple of Romanian (or was it Bulgarian?) families (not Roma, like actual white Europeans, which makes this even more hilarious) moved to his little countryside village and he was subsequently "bullied" by some of their kids. You see, if you are not culturally and ethnically similar, problems are bound to arise. Poor Jimmy-boy was bullied by some Romanian kids so now he wants to fight against the evils of multiculturalism... or something like that...

    What I wanted to say is that bigots are bigots, racists are racists. It doesn't matter, they will always find one reason or the other to defend their position. But certainly, there are problems with immigration and the integration policy (or lack thereof), and there are problems with structural discrimination and racism and segregation. There are problems with Islamism and honour culture, and there are many other social problems that are in essence issues and problems that have to do with social class... But even if you would eradicate most of these problems, you would still find poor little boys like Jimmy who were bullied by non-ethnic Swedes as a kid, and who know the true evils of mixing outsiders with our Swedish genes and lofty culture...

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #17 - October 04, 2014, 11:56 AM

    you don't have to accept a compromised Left with space for Islamists any more than you have to accept a far-right that scapegoats minorities. Two sides of the same coin, increasingly so. That is the case in the UK, and the Left needs to make sure its stable is clean.

    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #18 - October 04, 2014, 12:09 PM

    If liberal democracy ever dies in Europe, it will die in the name of rescuing it. As long as Islamists and parties like PVV&Swedish Democrats are not opposed at the same time, they'll keep undermining human rights until there's not much left. In reality, we live in a space of time that if you look at history is unique in both values and scientific/technological progress. Going forward, its not entirely obvious that societies that favour human rights&universal values will stay that way forever.
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #19 - October 04, 2014, 12:27 PM

    Well said.

    We've been spoilt enough for long enough to assume that progress doesn't have a reverse gear. A cursory reading of history reminds one that it does.
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #20 - October 04, 2014, 12:41 PM

    Oh no, I completely agree that any individual who expresses anti-democratic views and ideas, as well as values that are explicitly contrary to the fundamentals of a party, shouldn't be allowed to be a representative of that particular party. For example, we can't have a member within Sweden's (former) ruling party on a high post saying women and men are intrinsically different, that multiple wives are OK and that men and women shouldn't mix and whatever other Islamic shit about homosexuality. So yes, Sweden's political parties have to tidy up within their own ranks.

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #21 - October 05, 2014, 09:36 AM

    Yeezevee,  Why do you only mention Islamic preachers?

     What about Zionist Rabbis that preach Zionist Jewish religious cr4ps?

    This is an example;
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/extremist-israeli-rabbi-dov-lior-calls-destruction-gaza-1457942

    Hmm., I missed that post .,     good question Honeybunch ., now guess the answer for that question., I WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION after reading your answer..

    Also let us  phrase the question, slightly differently to involve other readers.,  such as

    Why Yeezevee insults Islamic Preachers?    there are dime a dozen religions on this globe you see in the picture..  why  he doesn't do same thing  to other religions and other religious preachers?



    well happy Eid ul Azha  to all



    I  hope hope those are in Islam or nominal Muslims of CEMB  observe/d  that festival Eid ul Azha

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    Eid al-Adha     meaning "Festival of the sacrifice"  also called the Feast of the Sacrifice  the "Major Festival"., the "Greater Eid", Baqr'Eid (Urdu: بقر عید‎), or Tabaski (West Africa), is the second of two religious holidays celebrated by Muslims worldwide each year. It honors the willingness of Abraham (Ibrahim) to sacrifice his promised son. Ishmael (Ismail)a as an act of submission to God's command, before God then intervened to provide Abraham with a lamb to sacrifice instead. The meat from the sacrificed animal is preferred to be divided into three parts. The family retains one third of the share; another third is given to relatives, friends and neighbors; and the remaining third is given to the poor and needy.


    How about donating/giving to the needy that you can afford  instead of making it as ritual and killing some animal.? Oh well let me read some Quran..

     
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    sura 37 (As-Saaffat),

    100 "O my Lord! Grant me a righteous (son)!"
    101 So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear.
    102 Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: "O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!" (The son) said: "O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if Allah so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!"
    103 So when they had both submitted their wills (to Allah), and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice),
    104 We called out to him "O Abraham!
    105 "Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!" – thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
    106 For this was obviously a trial–
    107 And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice:
    108 And We left (this blessing) for him among generations (to come) in later times:
    109 "Peace and salutation to Abraham!"
    110 Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
    111 For he was one of our believing Servants.
    112 And We gave him the good news of Isaac – a prophet – one of the Righteous.


    Yes.. yes god..    ....we need sons and sons of bitches................

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #22 - October 07, 2014, 12:12 AM

    Yeezevee, Why do you only mention Islamic preachers? What about Zionist Rabbis that preach Zionist Jewish religious cr4ps?

    This is an example;
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/extremist-israeli-rabbi-dov-lior-calls-destruction-gaza-1457942

    well i could  make that as my signature but that is too long ... anyways.. now we have two sources for news..

    imemc.org and  memri.org

     It is fun and good to read both links, good to have the both sides of the story..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #23 - October 07, 2014, 04:41 AM

    Yeezevee,
    Why do you only mention Islamic preachers? What about Zionist Rabbis that preach Zionist Jewish religious cr4ps?
    This is an example;
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/extremist-israeli-rabbi-dov-lior-calls-destruction-gaza-1457942

    Rabbis who preach hatred are in minority and on the fringes of Judaism and are not taken seriously by Jews and often are condemned. But Muslim preachers are mainstream with large following and nobody dare criticize them.

    वासुदैव कुटुम्बकम्
    Entire World is One Family
    سارا سنسار ايک پريوار ہے
  • Sweden to recognise sovereign Palestinian state says news
     Reply #24 - October 07, 2014, 08:26 AM

    Rabbis who preach hatred are in minority and on the fringes of Judaism and are not taken seriously by Jews and often are condemned. But Muslim preachers are mainstream with large following and nobody dare criticize them.

    Hello Mr. Ram but don't you think such Rabbis  also need to  be questioned   and exposed .. This may nt be write forum., Ideally such  discussion should be made in  Brew Coffee cafe  or  jtf.org

    anyways Let me watch this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YSZjnBcg4U

    and digest bit to write something about Humanity & Islamic Humanism and the difference between these two.. 


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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