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  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #30 - October 04, 2014, 03:22 PM

    And then he can watch some of this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdVuD7aMeZQ

    My mind runs, I can never catch it even if I get a head start.
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #31 - October 04, 2014, 03:34 PM

    Oh Musivore this is hurtful to read. I know for my Danish friends of immigrant background being told stuff like this saddens them the most because they really want to be feel as a part of this society. Luckily many do but some 100% assholes apparently feel they have to right to throw them down a dark hole of despair.

    Here is a large hug from this white guy (don't worry - it doesn't come off)
     far away hug

    You are perfectly OK and I really like to dig up some of your old posts once in a while yes

    Danish Never-Moose adopted by the kind people on the CEMB-forum
    Ex-Muslim chat (Unaffliated with CEMB). Safari users: Use "#ex-muslims" as the channel name. CEMB chat thread.
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #32 - October 04, 2014, 10:25 PM

    Wow, there have been more kind and thoughtful words on this thread than I was ever expecting.

    I'm sorry if I miss anyone who has taken the time to read and respond to my attention-seeking gripe, but a Big Thanks to Cato (hope you're ok old friend), Yeezus, uber-happy Lily (I will focus on the good thanks, and will let him know that all cultures have both good and bad bits), Nikolaj (you're too nice to me, and I'm pretty sure I don't deserve all of that), Qtain (good idea about cricket dude, though I'm an England fan, I'll give my son the choice to support his grandad's team), the lovely suki (where are you from? I'm compiling a list of places where people are particularly vicious and thick) asbie (the even lovelier grandmaster in our midst), Bosnian lua (is there any good tv from Pakistan? If there is, I'll do it),

    and Three: I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I may just be overreacting; he could just be wanting to conform to the majority. It reminds me of when I was about 8. I used to compete regularly for a prize given to the best student in the class, with a girl called Nicola. God I loved her brain, but disliked her slightly whenever she beat me to the weekly Mars bar. I remember having the loveliest dream one night, where Nicola and I were skipping through a field, hand in hand, and  we were so happy together. We ended up in my house, and Nicola stayed for tea and we were like an old married couple. I remember waking up and the happiness stayed with me for a while, and I seriously started considering trying to make that dream become a reality. It took about 10 minutes before it slowly dawned on me that the dream could never be reality. I was different. My culture was different. My parents were different. My religion was different. My poor, inner city surroundings were different. My skin was different. Everything about me was different. Although significant, I remember taking this realisation in my stride, shrugging it off, shrugging the dream off, and just getting on with my breakfast, with thoughts of getting on with trying to win the week's Mars bar. Perhaps my son is dealing with something similar in his head? On the plus side, the gulf between mine and Nicola's cultures was vast. I believe the difference between my son and his Amy is much more superficial, and therefore easier to bridge. I just hope we get to a stage one day where one of my descendants doesn't have any gap to bridge whatsoever, so that his father doesn't lay awake at night, sharing his thoughts on a forum, wanting his four-year-old to be accepted just like every other four-year-old. The sooner the better IMO.

    Hi
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #33 - October 04, 2014, 10:45 PM

    Let's hope that is all it is. I think when kids are older, they start to feel proud of their differences, like in the teen years when they are desperate to stand apart from the herd and get noticed. I do have a suspicion that my children are going to choose to learn Spanish rather than the German that is so popular around here, and it is more practical in this country, anyway.
    I think things are changing pretty quickly. I don't think our descendants are going to worry about their kids being accepted despite skin differences, I think they are going to worry about genetically modified peers and those with learning implants or something like that.
    Oh, and what a fantastic dream. I remember one or two epic dreams from childhood, too, but none so sweet as that.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #34 - October 04, 2014, 10:51 PM

    In a place where he's a racial minority, at that age other children shouldn't really care about skin colour. They'll notice it and wonder why his skin is different to theirs but it'll most likely simply be a curiosity. If you had a society where the norm was blonde hair and blue eyes and then in the same class there was a child with brown hair and eyes, or red hair and green eyes, the children would react the same. Just my thoughts on addressing it, the answer is actually very simple. His grandparents came from a place that was very hot so they had brown skin to protect them from the very hot sun. Not sure if that's the way you want to go, just mentioned it as the simple answers are so often overlooked. The response could then be "Well okay I understand why grandma and granddad are brown because they come from that place, but why do I since I was born here?" As I have no clue if your son has any grasp of the concept of biology I'll leave that to you.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #35 - October 05, 2014, 12:17 AM

    Three: thanks, and I do think you're right about him using these differences to his advantage when older. I often did, and still do on occasion. It's just the journey to that point that makes me worry for him.

    Quod: I actually tried to explain that to him when he first bought it up. But he stopped me in my tracks with his pleading big brown eyes, and the immortal words, 'But I just want to be Yellow, like Amy'. Maybe I'll try again, thanks for the pointer.

    Hi
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #36 - October 05, 2014, 12:25 AM

    Could be worse. Could be ginger. Ginger kids get the shit kicked out of them.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #37 - October 05, 2014, 12:45 AM

    Was about to write lol. But that is true. And no one takes their bullying seriously

    Hi
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #38 - October 05, 2014, 12:49 AM

    I'm going to PM you a link to a video on the matter. Watch it.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #39 - October 05, 2014, 01:15 AM

    No one cares about red hair where I live, there are tons of redheads here, I think I have two in my stepfamily, even. My kids have Middle Eastern cousins who are redheads.They have never said anything about redhead difficulties. I don't understand it at all. Is this just a British thing? It has to be.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #40 - October 05, 2014, 01:22 AM

    Gingers are the chosen people. The chosen race.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #41 - October 05, 2014, 03:27 AM

    No one cares about red hair where I live, there are tons of redheads here, I think I have two in my stepfamily, even. My kids have Middle Eastern cousins who are redheads.They have never said anything about redhead difficulties. I don't understand it at all. Is this just a British thing? It has to be.


    Yeah, same over here? I think I've heard about it more from the CEMB forum than I've ever heard of it IRL.
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #42 - October 05, 2014, 05:38 AM

    No one cares about red hair where I live, there are tons of redheads here, I think I have two in my stepfamily, even. My kids have Middle Eastern cousins who are redheads.They have never said anything about redhead difficulties. I don't understand it at all. Is this just a British thing? It has to be.


    I think so too.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #43 - October 05, 2014, 07:48 AM

    No one cares about red hair where I live, there are tons of redheads here, I think I have two in my stepfamily, even. My kids have Middle Eastern cousins who are redheads.They have never said anything about redhead difficulties. I don't understand it at all. Is this just a British thing? It has to be.


    Yeah i heard its a silly british thing, just some immature joke that never went away, also read that americans like red/ginger haired people and apparently don't have a problem there.  Red heads are beautiful anyway.

    ^ Musivore thanks for asking, i'm from the north of the UK, english convert - apostate.

    My girls have a slight colour and have always had little problems living in our white community, such as racial jokes and banter directed at them within their close friend circles, they don't care though, they're smart and tough, i think if that was me i'd be an easily offended wreck lol. 
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #44 - October 11, 2014, 12:54 AM

    Out of curiosity did you ever watch the link?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #45 - October 11, 2014, 04:42 AM

    who ?  What link ?
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #46 - October 11, 2014, 04:57 AM

    musivore.
    Could be worse. Could be ginger. Ginger kids get the shit kicked out of them.

    Was about to write lol. But that is true. And no one takes their bullying seriously

    I'm going to PM you a link to a video on the matter. Watch it.


    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #47 - October 11, 2014, 05:16 AM

    Sorry Quod-core, I couldn't get it to download. The 'play now' refuses to play on my phone, whilst the 'download free' link takes me to a competition for Tesco vouchers.

    I can see it's a clip from South Park though?

    Hi
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #48 - October 11, 2014, 05:55 AM

    No mate, full episode. It's called "Ginger Kids". Seriously, watch the ep if you get a chance, I defy anyone not to laugh. The Tesco thing would be an ad, for me it's a pop-up, I just close it and stream the video.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • I was reminded of my colour today
     Reply #49 - October 11, 2014, 08:22 AM

    I'm laughing already. That is wrong. Especially given that I created this thread and really ought to know better. But those guys are just so funny.

    Hi
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