Yeez:
Quote Zeca- in your view would the original writers and audience of the Quran (or of texts that would end up compiled in the Quran) have had access to and been familiar with canonical biblical scripture in a written form?
Yes.Including the very fact that the Mecca/Kaba frame is historically untenable,and therefore has to be put aside, one gets that it is where there is a strong scribal culture where the texts have emerged. Those places are (very) well know in Orient : Syria-Palestine, Yemen, Iraq (until Edessa) and the East coast of the peninsula.
Quote Zeca
My impression is that there’s a widespread assumption that they didn’t [have access to canonical (or not) in a written form] but is this assumption justified?
It is, in my view,
only justified by the fact that a cult ("Islam") has been created from those texts (only Quran) which therefore were embedded in a history of their origin to which scholars one way or another believe.
Very very important fact : If one had found those texts without all of this (cult and history of its origin),
scholars would have never hesitated to state its profound connection with scribal culture of the Bible, It is perfectly clear. Therefore that "the original writers and audience of the Quran (or of texts that would end up compiled in the Quran) have had access to and been familiar with canonical biblical scripture in a written form."
So., ........... IT IS IN YOUR VIEW. ., it is justified, that the scholars of Islam past and present(MUSLIM & NON-MUSLIM SCHOLARS) have been forced to couple Quranic texts with sira/hadith, etc to analyze history of Islam.,
If one had found those texts without all of this (cult and history of its origin), scholars would have never hesitated to state its profound connection with scribal culture of the Bible,
because there was no other way for them (SO CALLED SCHOLARS OF ISLAM) to separate Quranic texts from hadith & sira texts..................
As there is no other way to prevent advertising to work in the brain of people.
And that is the reason exploring origins of history of Islam is a big mess ..
Except for those who cannot be influenced. The main issue being that in Anglo saxon world main universities are private enterprises. They need cash.Add to that the politically correctness due to the heavy presence of Islam in western country, only those who are not under those influences and are competent (not Gibson, Marc et al.) can clean the mess. They will be despised and heavily rejected by the scholars (like Gallez is, but maybe less now almost 20 years after the publication of his thesis...)
did I read that paragraph correctly and carefully dear Altara??
I clarified my thinking (read above).
and other question .. Do you consider Quranic texts/manuscripts before it became a book are different from the present book Quran??
It is, inter alia, a topic of my work.
Topic: Qur'anic studies today