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  • What keeps you going?
     OP - November 06, 2014, 03:15 PM
    What keeps you going when everything seems stacked against you? What makes you happy, what do you live for? I know none of us will respond with the cop out of Allah or heaven haha.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #1 - November 06, 2014, 03:24 PM
    I've struggled to find any reason to keep going since losing my faith (plus personal life misfortunes and grief).

    I really did use to be one of those people who found strength in my faith in God and in prayer and the feeling that "everything will be alright" in the end.

    Now I tend to just focus on things I'm doing - learning guitar, translating or whatever. But life in general seems silly and pointless to me.

    Of course losing my faith in religion doesn't mean I've lost it entirely in God - but tbh I find it difficult to think that there is a wise and wonderful God anymore. Human beings are mostly such stupid and wretched creatures - I can't help thinking that if this is the ultimate creation of this wise and all-powerful God, I'm not very impressed. Nor can I fathom any great meaning or noble purpose.

    Maybe the slight chance I may come upon some wisdom that will help me understand keeps me going.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #2 - November 06, 2014, 04:18 PM
    The desire to learn more about this world.
    The desire to change my life and become better than yesterday and each past moment.
    The desire to contribute to this world.
     Smiley

  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #3 - November 06, 2014, 04:21 PM
    It really is one of those conundrums.
    If you leave your faith, you're likely to lose your support network and you've probably faced mental anguish worth a life time.

    That tends to make it so religious people can point to you and say how the lack of faith screws you up. Even though many religious people themselves are screwed up, when someone who professes to lose their faith has issues, it is always blamed on that.

    It is rough, but you find meaning elsewhere.
    New people. Your own family...
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #4 - November 06, 2014, 05:01 PM
    Lots. I come up with a different answer each time I come across this question. The fact that I do come up with a different answer each time means that I genuinely feel that there is lots and lots to live for.

    So without elaborating for once, and sparing you from boring the shit out of you once more, my asnswer (in true Yezeevee fashion) is:

                    Lots[/size]]Lots
    Hi
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #5 - November 06, 2014, 05:03 PM
    ^shit, I fucked my Yeez impression up  Cry
    Hi
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #6 - November 06, 2014, 06:06 PM
    ^Silly mortal. Many people have tried to bring posts like Yeezevee's but all have failed. Bring a post like his if you are truthful. And guard yourself from the wrath of the baboons from the Land of the Pure.

    And for me, there is always something new to learn and amazing people to meet. Joy in life can be found in something as simple as taking a walk outside and enjoying the weather or eating a good sandwich. Maybe it is because I am young and unburdened, but I don't get those people who act like life is such a chore. Plus, I have no idea what death would be like and I don't intend to hasten the process at all.
    "I moreover believe that any religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
    -Thomas Paine
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #7 - November 06, 2014, 06:31 PM
    Lol. Just at the first bit. I'm not laughing at the second bit because I quite like it  Afro
    Hi
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #8 - November 06, 2014, 06:39 PM
    Quote from: justperusing on November 06, 2014, 06:06 PM
    ^Silly mortal. Many people have tried to bring posts like Yeezevee's but all have failed. Bring a post like his if you are truthful. And guard yourself from the wrath of the baboons from the Land of the Pure.

    And for me, there is always something new to learn and amazing people to meet. Joy in life can be found in something as simple as taking a walk outside and enjoying the weather or eating a good sandwich. Maybe it is because I am young and unburdened, but I don't get those people who act like life is such a chore. Plus, I have no idea what death would be like and I don't intend to hasten the process at all.

    agreed

    Also I dont get how religion gives you  a reason worth living.
    What's the point of living forever after death? Is there any meaning I can get out of an eternal life?
    So human beings find this life to be meaningless just because one day all will come to an end?
    I believe that an eternal life is meaningless.


  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #9 - November 06, 2014, 07:33 PM
    Quote from: maybe on November 06, 2014, 03:15 PM
    What keeps you going when everything seems stacked against you? What makes you happy, what do you live for? I know none of us will respond with the cop out of Allah or heaven haha.


    I want my children to have the freedom to choose their own future and pursue their own desires. Whenever I have felt as if it were too difficult to keep trying, I ask myself what would I want my children to remember me doing at this point. If I cannot be a good example to them in perseverance and responsibility, then I cannot expect them to do the same in life.
    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #10 - November 06, 2014, 07:36 PM
    The guilt that if I end it all that my nephews/nieces will be scarred for life.
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #11 - November 06, 2014, 07:39 PM
    My favourite quote:

    “The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.”
    ― Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus and Other Essays

    Once one accepts the absurd and acknowledges the truth that there is no inherent meaning or purpose in life, one must not take a 'leap of faith' and must not try to find meaning through the supernatural / religions. Camus called doing so as 'philosophical suicide'!

    Camus identified three characteristics of the absurd life: revolt (we must not accept any answer or reconciliation in our struggle), freedom (we are absolutely free to think and behave as we choose), and passion (we must pursue a life of rich and diverse experiences).

    To me, not believing in an imaginary higher order, is freeing and liberating. It gives me the freedom to live this inherently meaningless life as meaningfully as I want. I can have one, two or several purposes in my life and I can even keep changing them as I wish.

    Another quote:

    If something burns your soul with purpose and desire, it’s your duty to be reduced to ashes by it. Any other form of existence will be yet another dull book in the library of life.
    — I think from CHARLES BUKOUSKI
    Every true faith is infallible. It performs what the believing person hopes to find in it. But it does not offer the least support for the establishing of an objective truth. If you want to achieve peace of mind and happiness, have faith. If you want to be a disciple of truth, then search - Neitchze
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #12 - November 06, 2014, 07:46 PM
    Quote from: maybe on November 06, 2014, 03:15 PM
    What keeps you going when everything seems stacked against you? What makes you happy, what do you live for?


    Involuntary breathing.
    I have no fucking clue (at least for now)
    turnipovich
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #13 - November 06, 2014, 07:51 PM
    I am driven by the need to find out how Islam was actually founded, what its actual early history was, since I am 100% the traditional story is hogwash, and to spread this information as far and wide in as many languages as I can learn Cheesy
    إطلب العلم ولو في الصين

    Es sitzt keine Krone so fest und so hoch,
    Der mutige Springer erreicht sie doch.

    I don't give a fuck about your war, or your President.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #14 - November 06, 2014, 07:57 PM
    •   My friends and family, seeing them progress in life. My wife, my son, my sisters, etc.

    •   The beauty of the world. Learning more about it and how it works.

    •   Traveling to new places.

    •   Following up on current affairs and international news. Watching history happen in real time.

    •   Supporting humanity like a football team, and hoping to see some major progress within my lifetime. Will there be peace and freedom in the world? Will religion be left behind? Will we colonize Mars? Etc.

    •   Seeing the plants I plant in my garden grow, and planting new stuff.

    •   Reminiscing about happy times in the past with old friends.

    •   Sports and hobbies.

    •   Discovering new music, films, books, etc.

    •   Reading about history and imagining the future.

    •   Doing my bit to educate people and hopefully make a difference, through my websites, online discussions.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #15 - November 06, 2014, 08:37 PM
    Quote from: Abu Ali on November 06, 2014, 03:24 PM
    I've struggled to find any reason to keep going since losing my faith (plus personal life misfortunes and grief).

    I really did use to be one of those people who found strength in my faith in God and in prayer and the feeling that "everything will be alright" in the end.

    Now I tend to just focus on things I'm doing - learning guitar, translating or whatever. But life in general seems silly and pointless to me.

    Of course losing my faith in religion doesn't mean I've lost it entirely in God - but tbh I find it difficult to think that there is a wise and wonderful God anymore. Human beings are mostly such stupid and wretched creatures - I can't help thinking that if this is the ultimate creation of this wise and all-powerful God, I'm not very impressed. Nor can I fathom any great meaning or noble purpose.

    Maybe the slight chance I may come upon some wisdom that will help me understand keeps me going.


    I know exactly what you mean.  I had a very deep connection to god myself. Although I must admit as a muslim I had my own perception of god, god was a good guy, he was my friend. I couldnt imagine god being cruel or unforgiving.

    But ye that rip of going from being psychologically dependent on god to becoming independent is not an easy one. But I refuse to let my brain go to that place, that place of uselessness and no 'purpose'.

    I hope we evolve to being able to truly live without needing some higher purpose. Thinking about even the religious me only cared about my life in this world, hardly thinking about the next. My prayers were mostly for here. So why should I not enjoy every free breath I now have, when now this is all i have.

    i am just simply refusing to go to that place.

    As my signature says, this is the only heaven I know.

     far away hug
    "I Knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then." Alice in wonderland

    "This is the only heaven we have how dare you make it a hell" Dr Marlene Winell
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #16 - November 06, 2014, 09:40 PM
    Tomorrow keeps me going. All those tomorrows when life will be full of simple beauty.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #17 - November 06, 2014, 09:49 PM
    Quote from: maybe on November 06, 2014, 03:15 PM
    What keeps you going when everything seems stacked against you?


    The lack of viable alternatives, mostly.

    Quote from: maybe on November 06, 2014, 03:15 PM
    What makes you happy, what do you live for? I know none of us will respond with the cop out of Allah or heaven haha.


    I haven't figured that out yet. Applause, probably. Indolence, alas, means that I haven't yet figured out how to receive it with the least effort. There's a moral in there somewhere.
    Before it gets too late, you will find escape.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #18 - November 06, 2014, 09:50 PM
    Brain and chemical stimuli within it.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #19 - November 06, 2014, 10:07 PM
    Quote from: toor on November 06, 2014, 09:49 PM
    Applause, probably.

    I'm clapping with one hand. The other is busy with a scrambled egg muffin.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #20 - November 06, 2014, 10:08 PM
    ^How are you typing?
    "I moreover believe that any religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
    -Thomas Paine
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #21 - November 06, 2014, 10:09 PM
    Feet, no doubt.
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #22 - November 06, 2014, 10:10 PM
    Stephen Hawking style.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #23 - November 06, 2014, 10:17 PM
    Quote from: asbie on November 06, 2014, 10:09 PM
    Feet, no doubt.


    Might be using an appendage on another "leg".  Wink
    Quote from: yeezevee on February 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #24 - November 06, 2014, 10:28 PM
    (first post.. testing)
    The unknown future.
    I doubt any of us planned to apostatise but it happened, who knows what tomorrow will bring?
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #25 - November 06, 2014, 10:53 PM
    Quote from: goldtap on November 06, 2014, 10:28 PM
    The unknown future.
    I doubt any of us planned to apostatise but it happened, who knows what tomorrow will bring?



    يقولون يا عامُ عدتَ لي * فياليت شعري بماذا تعــود؟
    لقد كنتَ لى أمس ما لم أرد * فهل أنت لى اليوم ما لا أريد؟

    "They say; oh new year you have returned to me * But would that I knew with what you are returning?"
    "Last time you brought me that which I did not want * So will you now bring again that which I don't want?"

    -Ahmad Showqi
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #26 - November 06, 2014, 11:13 PM
    Hey goldtap - why not tell us a bit about yourself in the Intro section?
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #27 - November 06, 2014, 11:27 PM
    Sex, drugs and drum n' bass.
    Too fucking busy, and vice versa.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #28 - November 07, 2014, 12:29 AM
    Quote from: Abu Ali on November 06, 2014, 11:13 PM
    Hey goldtap - why not tell us a bit about yourself in the Intro section?


    Hey there
    I was planning on it but lost track of time after lurking on the forum whilst working on assignment at the same time  Roll Eyes classic sign of procrastination.
    I'll definitely post something soon Smiley

    Thanks for the quote further up although I'm not sure I'm interpreting it right in my head (analysing poems was/isn't my strongest trait).
     I prefer to think the future will be brighter than the past, if not I'd probably end up having a serious break down and unable to function.
  • What keeps you going?
     Reply #29 - November 07, 2014, 10:35 PM
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
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