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  • ISIS Recruits: 3 Schoolgirls Flee Home to Join Terror Group
     Reply #90 - February 28, 2015, 08:11 AM

    Saw a French produced documentary on ISIS recruiting teenagers, especially girls, yesterday. It's disgusting, it's brainwashing and grooming from start. No wonder impressionable young kids fall victim, a lot of them don't even understand what reality looks like until they get there but then it's usually too late.

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • ISIS Recruits: 3 Schoolgirls Flee Home to Join Terror Group
     Reply #91 - February 28, 2015, 10:10 PM

    Good article related to this

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    Jihadi John controversy: Former Muslim soldier calls for more integration in British cities

    12:30, 28 February 2015 By Josh Layton

    Zeeshan Hashmi, whose brother Jabron was first British Muslim soldier killed in Afghanistan, spoke out against "fantasies of Islamic State"

    (Clicky for piccy!)
    Jabron Hashmi

    A former soldier whose brother became the first Muslim serviceman to die while fighting for the British Army in Afghanistan said extremist hatred was being fuelled by a failure to integrate communities in British cities.

    Zeeshan Hashmi, from Small Heath, labelled jihadi terror groups a “curse on humanity” and called on immigrant communities to appreciate what they have in Britain and to stop fantasising that “Islamic state the ideal and sharia the answer”.

    The 36 year-old spoke out following the unmasking of Islamic State serial killer ‘Jihadi John’ as Londoner Mohammed Emwazi.

    Zeeshan’s brother Jabron was just 24 years-old when he died on July 1 2006 – just six days shy of the first anniversary of 7/7 bombings in London.

    More than 400 mourners attended his funeral at the Ghankol Sharif Mosque and they received help from far and wide, but the family were also targeted by death threats.

    They live only a few metres down the road from some of the plotters who planned to kidnap and behead a British Muslim soldier.

    He said: “Someone who kills non-combatants, humanitarians and journalists in the name of religion is not only delusional but a curse on humanity.

    “The history of Islam is tainted with false prophets and caliphs, so there is nothing new with the self-proclamation of Isil and its corrupt leaders. However, in Islam, the right to judge another human belongs strictly to God.

    “Anyone taking it upon themselves to pass that judgement can only be blasphemous.

    “A troublesome past can never be used as justification for such heinous crimes.”

    Zeeshan, who was in the Intelligence Corps, attached to the Royal Signals, completed two tours of Afghanistan and one of Kosovo before leaving the Army to study Arabic as part of an Oriental Studies degree at Cambridge.

    Jabron, who had also joined up, stayed on and was killed in a rocket attack on July 1, 2006.

    His mother did not know he was serving the country as the brothers had made a pact to stop her worrying by telling her they were in Germany while on tours.

    The Birmingham Mail reported on Jabron’s funeral.

    But far from acting as a stand against terror, Zeeshan told how the Lance Corporal’s death “inspired” jihadis.

    Zeeshan said: “We received support from far and wide – and we also started receiving threats from the local community. Some said my brother was a traitor.

    “People would drive by, slowly pointing out where we lived and saying: ‘That is where the British soldier came from.’ Friends warned us to be careful.

    “The timeline is important. Jabron was killed almost exactly a year after the 7/7 bombings in London, which had increased fear of home-grown fanatics in Britain.

    “Only seven months after he died, the police managed to foil an attempt by predominantly British Pakistanis to kidnap and behead a British Muslim soldier.

    “Some of the men convicted lived a few metres down the road from my mother’s house.

    “If anything, Jabron’s death inspired them. Everything became more polarised.”

    The family moved to Small Heath from Peshawar, Pakistan, in November 1994.

    The brothers' father Ishtiaq had spent 13 years working in England in the 50s and 60s before moving home for an arranged marriage.

    Zeeshan said: “He remained a British citizen, though, which meant Jabron and I and our three sisters were British citizens too. Where we came from, that was like winning the lottery.

    “Our father moved us to Britain to give us every chance in life, but at great sacrifice: my mother wasn’t allowed to join us until seven years later.

    “When we moved here, however, we were amazed at the relationship between the British Pakistani community and other segments of British society: it seemed to be very much us and them. It was bizarre.

    “Every Saturday I went to Birmingham Central Library, where followers of the radical preacher Anjem Choudary and the (now banned) organisation Al-Muhajiroun were pointing at people, calling them “kaffirs” and saying they would go to hell.

    “We moved into what was essentially a Pakistani ghetto.

    “Frankly, we spoke better English than a lot of our neighbours. Having attended private schools in Pakistan and knowing how hard our parents had to work to send us there, it came as a huge shock to see in Birmingham that although these children had access to a first rate education, they seemed somehow ungrateful.

    “Jabron was bullied for being the new boy and for coming from a different culture. He was the type who would take one or two hits but then stand up for himself.

    “We had both always dreamed of being in the military and I swore my allegiance to the Queen on December 19 2000, when I joined the Royal Artillery.

    “The political landscape was very different then – or maybe I was more naive.

    “When I was undergoing my basic training, a couple of guys who didn’t like the colour of my skin would try to trip me up on assault courses. But I told them to back off and they did. Either you take it lying down and become a victim, or you stand up for yourself.”

    Zeeshan was the only full-time British serviceman speaking Pashto and was deployed to Afghanistan with military intelligence soon after the 9/11 attacks.

    The brothers stood up to training ground bullies and the Taliban believing they were building bridges.

    But today more British Muslims are fighting for jihadi groups in Syria than are in the British Army.

    Perry Barr MP Khalid Mahmood has estimated at least 1,500 young men have gone to wage jihad since 2011 – more than twice the number serving the UK.

    But Zeeshan believes divides on civvy street are the real problem.

    He said: “Catchment areas dominated by Pakistani families create schools filled with Pakistani pupils. You can’t expect a child attending one to suddenly, at the age of 16, realise Britain is actually a pretty diverse place.

    “By that point they have already become brainwashed. Integration needs to happen right from the start; it needs to happen in communities.”

    But the former serviceman also called on the immigrant communities themselves to take some responsibility.

    He said: “Within them are some who, despite being born here, inhabit a fantasy world where an Islamic state is the ideal and sharia the answer.

    “They don’t appreciate what they have in Britain.

    “What zealots like Jihadi John preach is a huge hypocrisy.

    “For my family, however, embracing British society and its values has always been easy.

    “The UK is a just and tolerant place, we have equal rights and we protect our elderly.

    “These are Islamic principles, too, which my brother and I were deeply proud of.

    “This is what my brother fought for – not his colour, creed or religion.

    “Men of words are quite different from men of action. Jabron was always one of the latter.

    “He wanted to make a change in his own way.”


    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/former-muslim-soldier-calls-more-8740793#ICID=sharebar_twitter
  • ISIS Recruits: 3 Schoolgirls Flee Home to Join Terror Group
     Reply #92 - March 02, 2015, 06:42 PM

    I don't know if anyone's seen this already, but it's a very illuminating piece on jihadi brides. Apparently it has gone ballistic since Baghdadi-Hair-Lip actually made a call for young Muslim girls from the west to be encouraged through their media etc, to come on over and join the party. The average age so far is 19/20, most of the UK girls are not really into all the strict religious stuff, they keep to themselves, quite a few are unhappy about the fact they can't fight, or basically do anything at all without being dependent on a man, so until they marry, it's staying indoors and insta-gramming cakes - sounds a riot. Can you imagine a few months down the line when some of these 'marriages' go wrong - and they will. When they end up in their beloved sharia court, the women might have a few very nasty surprises in store for them by the old men with long grey beards. That's if their little adventure lasts that long. Pretending to live a normal life in that neck (sorry) of the woods seems a somewhat precarious pursuit.


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/06/british-women-married-to-jihad-isis-syria

    Ha Ha.
  • ISIS Recruits: 3 Schoolgirls Flee Home to Join Terror Group
     Reply #93 - March 16, 2015, 06:05 AM

     The three teenage boys from London who were intercepted trying to join Isis , brought back and arrested , have now been released on bail.
      This comes after the police announcing that the east London girls won't be arrested if they come back
    I don't want to sound heartless , but when will we learn ? They've already radicalised themselves and opted to join one of the most barbaric movements in recent history , lets get them back and leave them to go about their business....
    They might all be young but they're old enough to know what they're doing , the attempt to prevent them as helpless victims is really starting to   grate.
     I don't know anything about the boys but by all accounts the girls are intelligent , doing well at school and have supportive families. Tower Hamlets might have it's problems but these girls have grown up in one of the world's great cities and have opportunities girls in Afghanistan or saudi arabia can only dream of, never mind the poor souls trapped in ISIS's salafist wonderland.  They made their bed , let them share it with jihadi john and his mates
  • ISIS Recruits: 3 Schoolgirls Flee Home to Join Terror Group
     Reply #94 - March 16, 2015, 07:31 AM

     Afro

    Those that live by the sword can die by the sword!
  • ISIS Recruits: 3 Schoolgirls Flee Home to Join Terror Group
     Reply #95 - March 19, 2015, 02:20 PM

    The three teenage boys from London who were intercepted trying to join Isis , brought back and arrested , have now been released on bail.
      This comes after the police announcing that the east London girls won't be arrested if they come back
    I don't want to sound heartless , but when will we learn ? They've already radicalised themselves and opted to join one of the most barbaric movements in recent history , lets get them back and leave them to go about their business....
    They might all be young but they're old enough to know what they're doing , the attempt to prevent them as helpless victims is really starting to   grate.
     I don't know anything about the boys but by all accounts the girls are intelligent , doing well at school and have supportive families. Tower Hamlets might have it's problems but these girls have grown up in one of the world's great cities and have opportunities girls in Afghanistan or saudi arabia can only dream of, never mind the poor souls trapped in ISIS's salafist wonderland.  They made their bed , let them share it with jihadi john and his mates


    But liberal societies are built on the foundation of providing safety nets for people, on the assumption that people are allowed to make mistakes, and they shouldn't be destroyed by their mistakes. For the boys and girls, if they can't be tied to any particular atrocity, based on the laws and ideals of a liberal society, you really can't just lock them up.

    I understand your frustration, but I think there's nothing really that the police can do - until they can be charged with a concrete crime. How does joining a gang handled in the UK? Is that a crime that can be prosecuted? Maybe they can charge them under the same charges for joining ISIS. Though I suspect even if convicted, the sentence won't be a life in prison, sometime later they have to be released...
  • ISIS Recruits: 3 Schoolgirls Flee Home to Join Terror Group
     Reply #96 - March 19, 2015, 02:31 PM

    I don't know if anyone's seen this already, but it's a very illuminating piece on jihadi brides. Apparently it has gone ballistic since Baghdadi-Hair-Lip actually made a call for young Muslim girls from the west to be encouraged through their media etc, to come on over and join the party. The average age so far is 19/20, most of the UK girls are not really into all the strict religious stuff, they keep to themselves, quite a few are unhappy about the fact they can't fight, or basically do anything at all without being dependent on a man, so until they marry, it's staying indoors and insta-gramming cakes - sounds a riot. Can you imagine a few months down the line when some of these 'marriages' go wrong - and they will. When they end up in their beloved sharia court, the women might have a few very nasty surprises in store for them by the old men with long grey beards. That's if their little adventure lasts that long. Pretending to live a normal life in that neck (sorry) of the woods seems a somewhat precarious pursuit.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/06/british-women-married-to-jihad-isis-syria


    Some women just like murder. Like some men do. What a shock.
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