Legalized Anti-Semitism
Reply #60 - March 13, 2015, 02:07 AM
Go a look up ethnoreligious grouping. A group unified by a religious view. Islam does this, Christianity does this. Thus this group is defined by a religious view. The religion is the foundation of this view. To no longer follow the religious view is to no longer be part of this group. If one does not hold the religious view at all they are not part of this group. So atheist-Jew is a nonsense term since they have left the group by leaving the religion. They would be cultural Jews but this is not an ethnic group. However the usage is defined by ethnic religions. This term is defined by a group which does not seek or take in converts. Judaism was once an ethnic religion and followed this parameter. However Judaism has become a universal religion by taking in converts. Various sect/denominations now accept interfaith marriages so no longer maintain religious endogamy which is a parameter of an ethnic religion. This split alone divide Judaism thus the religion can not longer be used as a basis of an ethnic group due to disagreements regarding doctrine. Likewise as it would be for Catholics and Protestants. (I highlighted the words you seem to have issues with)
I have always argued they are a religious group. Without the religion there is no grouping. The religion comes before the group can be defined. You confuse cultural with ethnic groupings. An ex-Jew can still be a cultural Jew. Just as I was a cultural Christian by still practicing various religious tradition after I left Christianity; X-mas, Easter, etc. This does not mean one is an ethnic anything. Your comment supports my argument by defining the group by religion where as you defined it without religion. You in ignorance agreed with me, thank you.
People commonly thought the planet was flats or 6000 years old. It does not matter what the general population thinks, ad populum arguments does not make something true.
Israeli exists now so the international community must acknowledge this. Likewise Palestine exists and should be recognized as a state. Until this happens there can be no major progress. It's non-state status allows many nations to treat the area as part of Israeli rather than an illegal occupation thus finding a loophole in international law. The reverse also applies with nations that refuse to acknowledge Israeli. However these are fewer in numbers while also are of no consequence. I do not support the destruction of either nation, occupation of either nor 1-state solution.
Topic: Legalized Anti-Semitism