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  • Ummah Forum
     OP - March 15, 2015, 01:52 PM
    I joined the forum, didn't get the answers I wanted. So made a thread that I want to leave Islam; they banned my account and there members just sent me a load of threats about hell and just random insults; even though before that thread they were all very nice to me. That's how I ended up here.

    What are your thoughts of Ummah Forum ?
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #1 - March 15, 2015, 01:58 PM
    "Ugh."

    We actually have a thread about ummah and some of our experiences there. Let me see if I can find it.

    But anyway, glad to have you here! You will find a much less toxic environment here, that's for damn sure. Tell us a little bit about yourself? What were some of the questions you were looking to have answered?
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #2 - March 15, 2015, 01:59 PM
    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=24424.0
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #3 - March 15, 2015, 02:00 PM
    Welcome to the forum, khan Smiley

    It would be nice if you could make an introductory thread in this section http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?board=2.0 so we could get to know you a little bit better.

    I can't answer for the rest of the forum, but my thoughts on Ummah aren't very positive, to say the least Cheesy There are a few threads on the subject that you could look up using the forum's search function. And you could also make threads about the questions that the Ummah people failed to answer. Maybe CEMBers are able to answer them better?

    ETA: lua answered you better Wink
    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #4 - March 15, 2015, 02:07 PM
    I kept my username the same so anyone can see my posts on that forum. Though they deleted my last thread.

    They basically tried to tell me that in this age child marriages, keeping slaves, raping slave women are all allowed.

    I had lots of questions, but don't anymore because the answer would always be something like "it's in this book so must be correct, you are Muslim, right ?" or "Allah can do anything, I think you are a troll";  there answers told me everything pretty much I needed to know; now I can't be bothered with the questions, I just want to be myself.

    I need to find myself, if that makes sense.
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #5 - March 15, 2015, 02:10 PM
    Quote
    They basically tried to tell me that in this age child marriages, keeping slaves, raping slave women are all allowed.


    Yeah, they're cool guys over there.

    Quote
    I need to find myself, if that makes sense.


    Yes, that makes a lot of sense, a lot of us here had to kind of reevaluate how we look at life and how we looked at ourselves after leaving Islam. Please make that introductory thread Naerys mentioned so that we can all properly welcome you and hear a bit of your story!  yes
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #6 - March 15, 2015, 02:17 PM
    I have to be honest, different people have had different stages when leaving religion, I did, I left it but went back to it, and now have left it again.

    It's a difficult process to leave religion. Only the strong minded can do it.

    I have been a member of the forum before but don't have that email address or password. So asked if I could make a new username and start fresh, the admins allowed me to do that, thankfully.

    Here is my last username here http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=27628.0

    You can see my intro there.
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #7 - March 15, 2015, 02:18 PM
    Quote from: lua on March 15, 2015, 02:10 PM
    Yeah, they're cool guys over there.





    There is one extra special mod on there Abu M, he's just way too awesome
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #8 - March 15, 2015, 02:20 PM
    Ohh, Thaman, you're back. Grin This is awkward, didn't we clash a bit for some reason?
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #9 - March 15, 2015, 02:22 PM
    Honestly, I don't remember or care if we did, time goes on, people change and grow. Friends ?
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #10 - March 15, 2015, 02:24 PM
    I'm certain we did, but I also can't remember why. We're good, if we come across it again let's pretend we didn't see it. Grin

    How is your wife doing now?
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #11 - March 15, 2015, 02:27 PM
    She's okay but haven't seen her for a long time tbh, just some family stuff, too complicated to explain. But she's stronger now and overcame the depression, though she is still very much into Islam and I can't tell her about my 'apostasy'
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #12 - March 15, 2015, 02:30 PM
    Sorry to hear about that, but glad she's feeling better. Yeah, now you're kind of in the same boat a lot of us were/are in. It's only been a few months since I was able to tell the husband about mine. Hopefully you two will get there.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #13 - March 15, 2015, 02:33 PM
    It's hard when you can't tell the person you love the most what you really think about religion. I did say to her today that I don't believe in shaytaan, but she said I have to believe in him to be a Muslim as he's an integral belief of the Islamic religion. I just changed the conversation but realised that I can't ever tell her about my thoughts on religion.
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #14 - March 15, 2015, 02:47 PM
    Yeahh, I remember those days. It was incredibly lonely, to say the least. I had more or less resigned myself to never being completely honest with him. It's a tough situation, but now that I'm out of it, I can't imagine going back. At least for me, it's better to not be in the relationship at all than to have to be a stranger to your own partner.

    Anyway, keep your head up.  far away hug
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #15 - March 15, 2015, 03:26 PM
    It's just one of those things, and I couldn't tell her as I'm the one who encouraged her to pray, give zakat etc.

    I love her just the way she is and don't expect her to change, I kind of admire her dedication to Islam.

    It's just myself now that I worry about

    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #16 - March 15, 2015, 03:41 PM
    I used to ask my wife which person she loves the most, she said me, I then said next time I ask say Prophet Muhammad.

    That just goes to show how much I loved Islam, so much so that I said to put another man before me ?

    Doesn't make sense to me now why I would say to love that mammal who married a 6 year old.

    Oh well.
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #17 - March 15, 2015, 04:41 PM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 15, 2015, 03:41 PM
    I used to ask my wife which person she loves the most, she said me, I then said next time I ask say Prophet Muhammad.

    Cheesy
    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #18 - March 15, 2015, 05:05 PM
    Well, at least this forum is a good place to come and gripe about these issues, even if you can't tell your wife.  yes
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #19 - March 15, 2015, 06:12 PM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 15, 2015, 02:17 PM
    Here is my last username here http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=27628.0

    You can see my intro there.


    I don't believe you were ever unbanned. Why are you here, again?
    Before it gets too late, you will find escape.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #20 - March 15, 2015, 06:53 PM
    Quote from: lua on March 15, 2015, 05:05 PM
    Well, at least this forum is a good place to come and gripe about these issues, even if you can't tell your wife.  yes


    Oops, or not if you didn't clear it with them first.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #21 - March 15, 2015, 07:04 PM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 15, 2015, 03:41 PM
    I used to ask my wife which person she loves the most, she said me, I then said next time I ask say Prophet Muhammad.


    hello Khan..  you forgot to add "PBUH".,    

    ..so .,  what did she say to you when you said   "next time I ask say "Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)"

    and welcome to the den ..
    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim     
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #22 - March 15, 2015, 07:13 PM
    Quote from: khan0987866 on March 15, 2015, 03:41 PM
    I used to ask my wife which person she loves the most, she said me, I then said next time I ask say Prophet Muhammad.

    That just goes to show how much I loved Islam, so much so that I said to put another man before me ?

    Doesn't make sense to me now why I would say to love that mammal who married a 6 year old.

    Oh well.


    Hi - How long ago since you were devout like that? Can't you explain to her how you feel, she seems to have listened to you in the past?
    Ha Ha.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #23 - March 15, 2015, 09:19 PM
    At least they have HAYYA
    No free mixing of the sexes is permitted on these forums or via PM or the various chat groups that are operating.

    Women must write modestly and all men must lower their case.

    http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?425649-Have-some-Hayaa-%28modesty-shame%29-people!
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #24 - March 15, 2015, 09:50 PM
    Welcome Khan  Smiley
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #25 - March 15, 2015, 11:11 PM
    Quote from: yeezevee on March 15, 2015, 07:04 PM
    hello Khan..  you forgot to add "PBUH".,    

    ..so .,  what did she say to you when you said   "next time I ask say "Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)"

    and welcome to the den ..


    Pig Butty Urrr Huuhh?
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #26 - March 15, 2015, 11:22 PM
    Ummah.com contributes to many Muslims leaving Islam.
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #27 - March 15, 2015, 11:28 PM
    Yep. Ummah and iERA were probably the combined force that made me stop and demand that I have more respect for myself than to follow even some defanged version of something that attracted such foolish and morally bankrupt people.

    So thanks to them, I guess. Grin
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #28 - March 16, 2015, 04:03 AM
    Quote from: yeezevee on March 15, 2015, 07:04 PM
    hello Khan..  you forgot to add "PBUH".,    

    ..so .,  what did she say to you when you said   "next time I ask say "Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)"

    and welcome to the den ..


    actually I used to say salalhualayhiwasalam everytime I said or even heard his name.

    And she agreed that he was the most beloved person to her.

    I was also adhering to ahlul-hadeeth sect at the time, I got her to follow the beliefs of this sect and leave the softer sufi version she grew up in. 
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
  • Ummah Forum
     Reply #29 - March 16, 2015, 04:16 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on March 15, 2015, 11:22 PM
    Ummah.com contributes to many Muslims leaving Islam.


    I remember when you went back on that forum after a long-time and Abu M and the dolts laughed at you and insulted you; you were nothing but polite, it's just because you don't believe in there religion any more, I suppose they are scared of you, so much so that they don't believe you ever were a Muslim. You may not remember that happening but I do.

    There are some wicked people on that forum, I do believe that is what they are and it's not because of the religion itself, maybe I'm a bit naive, I don't know.  skull

    There are so many people who left Islam on there, but the ever-changing members of the forum always doubt the person was a Muslim, someone once accused me of getting paid by someone to write the things about Islam to create doubts among the believers, mad conspiracy theorists, I wish I got paid to post my thoughts.

     Crystal Ball
    By God what you say astonishes us!
    You are talking about a work which recounts ancient myths, and which at the same time is full of contradictions and does not contain any useful information or explanation.
    Then you say: "Produce something like it"‽
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