Objective view of islam.

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OP - June 09, 2015, 01:45 PM

Hello,

I've been looking for an objective view of islam online. I found a link but have since lost the page. I thought to look to CEMB for help. Typically, the analyses are either too pro or too against islam, where one person is saying how 'beautiful' the poetry of the qur'an is and how perfect the religion is and the other is calling all muslims terrorists.

I just want one where the facts are laid out and challenged without too much bias.
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Reply #1 - June 09, 2015, 01:55 PM

Quote from: Lookout on June 09, 2015, 01:45 PM
Hello,

I've been looking for an objective view of islam online. I found a link but have since lost the page. I thought to look to CEMB for help. Typically, the analyses are either too pro or too against islam, where one person is saying how 'beautiful' the poetry of the qur'an is and how perfect the religion is and the other is calling all muslims terrorists.

I just want one where the facts are laid out and challenged without too much bias.

hello Lookout not read many posts of your so greetings .. objective view of Islam that is an interesting View... So you saw some web links on that subject? and what did he/they discuss on that objective view of Islam? what does it mean?

Does it mean what is there in Quran?

Does it mean how Islam started?

Does it mean to inquire the subject of who started Islam?

Does it mean to discuss who wrote Quran?

or Does it mean what can Islam/Quran do to the human society?

I can frame many question around that "objective view of Islam" anyway glad to read you...

with best wishes
yeezevee

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Reply #2 - June 09, 2015, 02:06 PM

I meant more in the sense of, objective view of the content and teachings of islam derived from the main texts: qur'an and hadith
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Reply #3 - June 09, 2015, 02:33 PM

Quote from: Lookout on June 09, 2015, 02:06 PM
I meant more in the sense of, objective view of the content and teachings of islam derived from the main texts: qur'an and hadith

Hmm.. ....teachings of islam derived from the main texts: qur'an and hadith..... that is a HUuuuuge subject "Lookout" and it clearly depends upon who is teaching that subject from where .. what Mazid.... what Mosque.. what country ..

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Reply #4 - June 10, 2015, 01:11 AM

I guess i'll just google some more
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Reply #5 - June 10, 2015, 01:52 AM

Quote from: Lookout on June 09, 2015, 01:45 PM
Hello,

I've been looking for an objective view of islam online.

Easy. Tis bollocks. Here endeth teh lesson.

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Reply #6 - June 10, 2015, 05:26 AM

Quote from: Lookout on June 09, 2015, 02:06 PM
I meant more in the sense of, objective view of the content and teachings of islam derived from the main texts: qur'an and hadith

I don't think that's entirely possible; no matter who is doing the reading and interpreting of the text, there will be some level of bias in their opinions of what it means. The next best thing is to ask "How have people read/interpreted this text over time?" That is to say, what did it mean to people in the 7th century? How about the 8th? 14th? 17th? 20th? Admittedly, this will take a lot of time and research to determine. How long do you want to dedicate to it?

Quote from: Lookout on June 10, 2015, 01:11 AM
I guess i'll just google some more

Refining your search terms helps a lot.

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Reply #7 - June 16, 2015, 05:52 PM

Quote from: Lookout on June 09, 2015, 02:06 PM
I meant more in the sense of, objective view of the content and teachings of islam derived from the main texts: qur'an and hadith

i've found that the most literalist of schools are the salafists (aka wahhabists). They tend to be less apologetic about the deen. Places like islam-qa. Also a forum i go to lurk to find out more about the salafist stance is islamic awakening.

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Reply #8 - June 17, 2015, 09:24 AM

Thanks kephas!
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