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  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #60 - June 10, 2015, 08:34 AM

    Another polarised slanging match. Shame.

    I wish there was honest discussion of how many refugees the EU is willing to take, and whether their status should be permanent or temporary. Also, honest discussion of housing allocation priorities. The budget for benefits is theoretically limitless; the supply of social housing isn't.

    People are asking nbhb for figures and detailed policy, yet failing to provide detailed ideas of what they think Europe should do in the short and long term.

    I've no idea myself.


    The thing is that UE can't send back people who are coming through Libya. There's no question about this.

    But with Turkey is another matter. I doubt Turkey is such a bad place for Syrian refugees and I doubt Syrian refugees are getting worse in Turkey camps than many poor Africans that are coming through Libya. Thing is that Turkey encourage this and it is doing way before Syrian crisis.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #61 - June 10, 2015, 09:24 AM

    Well first the governments need to reflect on their foreign and refugee policies. If there are no major plans to help Syria long term, form a unified government or at the least stop the war then they must realize that the refugee status will be long term rather than short term. With this in mind a plan must be made for integration of refugees along with a process of gained citizenship. To do otherwise just places refugees in the confines of limbo as non-citizens dependent on the government with no recourse but to wait out the storm. A visa work program for skilled and technical expertise can create productive members of a nation. This allows them to support their families, get off the government buck and giving them a chance to actually start new lives. I do not know about the EU's job supply and demands. However for Canada I do know it has a growing shortage in the trade skill market which is increasing every year. By policy Canada is interested in filling the demands of vacant jobs to the point of businesses and government cooperation for work visas and immigration applications. Following this example there has to be jobs within the greater market some refugees are qualified in any numbers of EU nations. An education program should be created for those without certified qualifications in order to gain just such certification. Many trade-skill labourers are trained by apprenticeship with certification being only proof of the apprenticeship and technical studies. Many refugees will have the apprenticeship experience but lack certification. This results in this group transitioning into the above group with the above group are become citizen under a visa and citizenship program. The uneducated show be granted full access to the education system within the public scope based on the education level of each individual. This allows them to progress to the apprenticeship level above. Last comes their children which due to age slowly transition into the above group as they age.

    A dialogue between nations with refugee programs needs to develop with the above in mind, especial foreign policy, in order to pool resources. This will allow those that wish to apply for status in nations they are not currently in. Nations like Canada can take those wishing to come to Canada rather than whatever EU nation they happen to be in now. Via the UN a fund to help off set individual nations burdens has already been setup. This needs to become implemented to the level of other UN refugee programs quickly before the burden on the current national populations is not too great.

    I know this is all too optimistic but even attempting this on a small scale will help some escape the limbo of being a refugee.

    Thanks, Bogart. This is an honourable position – admit theoretically limitless numbers of desperate people and invest substantial public resources in the belief that in the long term it will be for the best socially and economically. The only short-term snag is that in a democracy this course of action must be sold to the electorate.

    I've long thought that if that mass immigration in general had been seen as a Utopian gamble it might have been better handled. Instead, the right could only see immigrants as units of production, and the left as tokens of guilt expiation. A dreamless, cynical and cowardly waste of the opportunity to build the ideal society. Or have a damn good crack at it anyway.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #62 - June 10, 2015, 10:36 AM

    David, in the case of the refugees coming to Greece they'll arrive regardless of policies on frontiers, resettlement or integration. Aegean islands like Lesvos are a few miles off the Turkish coast and, while the weather's good, which it should be for the most part until October, it ought to be easy and relatively safe to sail a dinghy across. Of course the refugees who can pay and are willing to take the risk will make the crossing. Neither the Turkish or Greek authorities have much of an interest in trying to stop them, and if they did it wouldn't have much effect.

    The question is what happens to the refugees after they arrive. The islands are struggling to cope and Greece is facing economic meltdown. Locally there are clearly political problems with much of rural Greece leaning towards the right while there's a leftist government in Athens that's sympathetic to the refugees. Within the police there's a lot of support for the Nazi Golden Dawn party. In Athens where on duty police had their own polling stations during the last election the vote there for Golden Dawn was around forty per cent. I'm not sure if this would be as bad on the islands but historically in Greece the far right has been tied in with the police. It shouldn't be surprising if some of the powers that be on the islands carry on with treatment of refugees which isn't supported by the government.

    Greece has absorbed a million or so migrants since the fall of the Berlin Wall - I don't think anyone has an exact figure. Mostly it did this without any coherent or thought out policies in place. In practice this more or less worked until the economic crisis came along. Now it really needs help with the resettling of refugees in other EU countries. Myself I'm not too concerned with the mechanisms of how this is done, just that it is done.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #63 - June 10, 2015, 10:57 AM

    Help for refugees in Molyvos - facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/HelpForRefugeesInMolyvos?hc_location=ufi
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #64 - June 10, 2015, 12:40 PM

    Greece has absorbed a million or so migrants since the fall of the Berlin Wall - I don't think anyone has an exact figure. Mostly it did this without any coherent or thought out policies in place. In practice this more or less worked until the economic crisis came along. Now it really needs help with the resettling of refugees in other EU countries. Myself I'm not too concerned with the mechanisms of how this is done, just that it is done.

    Again, an honourable position, but surely the mechanisms must matter. Without forethought when times are good you risk a backlash when, as you point out, the economy goes tits up.

    I've still no idea what you'd actually do about it, even though you're very clear that something must be done.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #65 - June 10, 2015, 02:25 PM

    Yes, mechanisms matter and the Greek way of dealing with the migrant crisis of the early 90s, when I was living there, wasn't exactly ideal. The apparent absence of policies and plans wasn't the end of the world though.

    I'd like to see the restrictions removed on refugees moving on from Greece - to lessen the burden on Greece and remove the additional risks for refugees who are currently heading on overland through Macedonia. As for other European governments I could only say you've got refugees, deal with it. Whatever the problems are they're going to be a lot less than they are for Greece at the moment. If I was still living in Greece I think, or at least hope, I'd be helping with the effort to assist the refugees who are travelling through the country.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kBEL3KsUZAQ&feature=youtu.be
    The tensions in Molyvos (which are probably just a microcosm of what's going on in the rest of the country):

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1130735800273790&id=172010496146330

    ^Also: https://omniatv.com/blog/5387-greece-police-bans-volunteers-from-helping-out-refugees
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    The following piece highlights the tactics of intimidation deployed by local authorities and businesses in Lesvos against volunteers and activists providing help and support to newly-arrived refugees. It seems perfectly clear that the police is acting unlawfully when volunteers are ordered not to approach certain areas on the island, based on the assumption that refugees affect the tourism industry negatively. The lack of concern of the local police in helping out with the issues that refugees struggle with and the reluctance to protect volunteers from being targeted by malicious persons stems from its priority to mainly protect business interests over human lives.  It's worth to mention that two weeks ago Syriza MP Ilias Kamateros also received death threats by unknown persons for trying to find a solution to the problems caused by the lack of resources and housing on the island.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #66 - June 10, 2015, 05:57 PM

    Second blog of the day: stabbed tyres and intimidation
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=q03X57bKbp0
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #67 - June 10, 2015, 11:28 PM

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/world/europe/greece-un-warns-that-migrants-may-overwhelm-tourist-island-of-lesbos.html
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    United Nations officials expressed deepening concern on Tuesday about record numbers of desperate refugees from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan arriving on the Greek island of Lesbos, a short boat ride from the Turkish coast. Adrian Edwards, a spokesman for the United Nations refugee agency in Geneva, said that roughly 600 refugees a day were arriving in the Greek islands, and that half of them were coming ashore in Lesbos, a picturesque tourist destination ill equipped to handle the flow. The Lesbos arrivals have grown steadily by the month, from 737 in January to more than 7,200 in May. Mr. Edwards said the arrivals, crammed into rubber dinghies and wooden boats, were “straining the island’s capacity, services and resources.” They are part of a broader exodus of people from the Middle East and Africa fleeing war and deprivations in their home countries for risky and sometimes deadly Mediterranean trips to Europe, which has created a crisis for the European Union. The refugee agency said there had been 103,000 refugee and migrant arrivals in Europe via the Mediterranean so far in 2015.


    UNHCR statement: http://www.unhcr.org/5576bd836.html
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #68 - June 11, 2015, 06:20 AM

    Thanks, Bogart. This is an honourable position – admit theoretically limitless numbers of desperate people and invest substantial public resources in the belief that in the long term it will be for the best socially and economically. The only short-term snag is that in a democracy this course of action must be sold to the electorate.

    I've long thought that if that mass immigration in general had been seen as a Utopian gamble it might have been better handled. Instead, the right could only see immigrants as units of production, and the left as tokens of guilt expiation. A dreamless, cynical and cowardly waste of the opportunity to build the ideal society. Or have a damn good crack at it anyway.


    People are already in these nations or are in the process of being moved. They are already on the government buck and aid programs. A buck that has no return value but an increasing burden until the masses get sick of refugees just as people get sick of many national services provided to people that can not afford it; education, healthcare, etc. The only alternative is to ship them back to Syria or to the last contact point like Greece or Turkey. I am sure they will feel happy when they can blast Turkey for ignoring refugees all well loading more on ship destined for Turkey. Which isn't anything unique to the hypocrisy ingrained in the right-wing and it's position on the moral high ground. Government buck being spent on have no return value if the refugees are shipped off in the end regardless of how. Which is just wasted money that the right will scream about sooner or later.

    Investing the money which otherwise be wasted is an risk, there is no doubt in that. However like many government programs the risk is offset by potential gains later. Families which can not afford the individual cost of education are supplemented by those that can in taxes. The payoff for this expense is that these children will be future tax payers thus 12+ years of investment pays off in 40+ years of taxes. Taxes which can vary depending on the bracket each future taxpayer finds themselves in. The numbers are not limitless since Syria has a set population. Not everyone can be from Syria after all. Checks such as point of entry, financial records, etc can be easily accessed for all but the most isolated individual. The burdens can be shared by nations if working together.

    Like I said it is a very optimistic idea which at best is implemented on a lower scale already. Canada has policies covering exactly what I laid out. Around 100k out of 1 million applications are accepted for refugee status each year. Each one of these refugees (adult) can apply for citizenship legally while living in Canada. They can gain work permits and visa which by Canada policy make them taxable after 180ish days. Thus whatever jobs they can gain starts paying back some of the investment.

    I am reducing people to mere assets since a government is more like a business these days with temperamental stockholders. A lot of people are concerned about how their money is spent so it makes more sense for me to use this parallel than not. Far too many talk the talk but when it comes down to it everything is really about them. So we might as well appeal to their greed as it has repeated work in the past while humanism, empathy, morality, etc has failed. Let's face it even the left will complain about money, just money invested differently. We will complain about military budgets, industrial development, tax cuts, etc. Different priorities, same greed. Invest money the way I want you to!

    I doubt that any plan will result in a completely happy outcome. There will also be limits. However to do nothing at all beyond lip service and a few coins in the poor's cup is to really admit that at heart humanity's empathy only applies if it benefits us. Do not get me wrong I understand your points. It is a hard sell. However at time I do not think the electorate should matter. The vast majority it are functional humans that have been sold the idea that they are intelligent. They are no longer relevant in many elections regardless of who wins office. I see no reason why they should be consulted for their opinion in this situation
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #69 - June 11, 2015, 07:46 PM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkMvywG8etA&feature=youtu.be
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #70 - June 11, 2015, 08:59 PM

    Syrian refugees: How does UK's help compare with other European countries?

    To put the figures in the article in perspective 48,000 refugees have arrived in Greece by boat this year, about half of them via Lesvos. Seventy to eighty per cent of them are from Syria, depending whose figures you go by. So that's maybe 18,000 to 20,000 Syrian refugees arriving in Lesvos so far this year.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #71 - June 11, 2015, 10:00 PM

    UNHCR on refugees arriving in Kos
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?index=1&list=PLtPw-Y91GlmW9RQNkRs_61rHpO7d6ADX4&v=QNQh8XawoLA
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLtPw-Y91GlmW9RQNkRs_61rHpO7d6ADX4&params=OAFIAVgB&v=zrzG0ojeL54&mode=NORMAL
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #72 - June 12, 2015, 10:16 AM

    More intimidation from the right in Molyvos
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_pSSgOQXtRg&feature=youtu.be
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #73 - June 12, 2015, 10:54 AM

    From the Twitter account of an EFL teacher in Thessaloniki: https://mobile.twitter.com/teacherdude
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    Refugee routes from Turkey to Greece changing. Seeing ppl coming vis island of Chios as well as Lesvos and Kos.

    Lots of people getting in contact asking about how they can help refugees passing thru Thessaloniki. Deeply heartening.
    ....
    Lots of kids,as many groups are made up of families, sometimes with toddlers. heartbreaking to say no to hungry kids, as we had no more food.

    I'd love to see those right wing f**king politicians riding their xenophobic wave tell a 6 y/o they can't have anything to eat.

    Don't get me wrong, those I meet while handing out food as not hapless victims, they 're some of the toughest,strongest people I've ever met.

    The injustices committed against refugees in #EU I have witnessed have set off such a rage, I find hard to contain.

    How do you explain to people escaping the most hellish conditions that those making their lives even worse do so to gain a few poll points?

    Met group of Syrians today,they really had their shit together and you just knew what ever fate threw at them they'd make it.Deepest respect

    But why are these people, who've already been thru hell being forced to walk the length of Europe just to find a safe haven?
    ....
    Those smug northern European political pricks who think the more people suffer, the fewer will make it to their nations to ask for asylum.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #74 - June 12, 2015, 02:26 PM

    Really terrible...good for all the people who are giving their time and resources.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #75 - June 12, 2015, 03:43 PM

    Thanks lua. This gets to me personally because it feels close to home. I know there are bigger things going on, in Syria, Yemen and around the world, but I know Greece well and though I've never been to Lesvos I've spent a lot of time in similar places and I've got a good idea of how things work. I think the far right there may also be getting encouragement from the political situation nationally with the EU trying to destabilise the government. I'm not sure what the chances are of Golden Dawn getting into power as part as part of a right wing coalition but I wouldn't rule it out. In any case it would make sense for them to see this as their big opportunity and exploit the refugee issue to the full.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ysDkbotkFhI&feature=youtu.be
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #76 - June 12, 2015, 04:17 PM

    UNHCR: Syrians heading for Athens
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLtPw-Y91GlmW9RQNkRs_61rHpO7d6ADX4&params=OAFIAVgC&v=koou4Fsmf6o&mode=NORMAL
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #77 - June 12, 2015, 05:43 PM

    I've been going through some of Eric Kempson's earlier video blogs and I'm starting to get a clearer idea of what's going on. The format makes it a bit hard to get a grasp of the situation but he's obviously doing his best and all respect to him. According to official figures about 1,300 people have died trying to make the crossing to Lesvos over the years. The real figure may be significantly higher. This video is from a week or so ago.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_iZC5XPduGI
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #78 - June 12, 2015, 08:33 PM

    Some background in a report from last year. This is talking about the Greek/Turkish border along the river Evros, the main crossing point into Greece in the past. It makes it clear that the lives of refugees have been sacrificed for Europe's anti-immigration policies.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/06/greece-river-holds-tragedy-migrants-2014630828461621.html
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    ....
    In the summer of 2012, the newly-elected Greek government launched Operation Aspida ("Shield"), part of a range of measures to repulse, detain and expel undocumented migrants. An extra 1,800 police officers were deployed to the Evros, while construction began on a fence (completed in December 2012), equipped with thermal sensors, along sections of the 10.5km border not covered by the river.
     
    Greece had come under pressure from other EU states to seal its border with Turkey, which Austria's interior minister declared was "open like a barn door". Before the 2012 elections, the future Prime Minister Antonis Samaras had campaigned on a strong anti-immigration platform, claiming that Greek cities had been "occupied" by illegal immigrants and should be taken back.
     
    The new restrictions have led to a sharp drop in the number of crossings at the Evros: 12,556 people were stopped at the border in 2013, compared to 34,084 the previous year. According to records kept at Alexandroupolis hospital, deaths have fallen, too, from a peak of 54 in 2010, to six in 2013.

    But while deaths have fallen here, they have risen elsewhere as refugees, the majority from Syria, take more dangerous routes across the Aegean. Scores have drowned in the last year alone: on May 5, for instance, 22 died near the island of Samos when their boat capsized. Giorgos Tsarbapoulos, head of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) office in Greece, told Al Jazeera that there is a "need to prioritise the protection of human life over border surveillance," and that the "vast majority" of new arrivals in Greece were "refugees such as Syrians, Somalis, Eritreans and Palestinians".
    ....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #79 - June 12, 2015, 09:05 PM

    Thanks lua. This gets to me personally because it feels close to home. I know there are bigger things going on


    For the people going through this, though, the sympathy and support might mean the world. I'm sure some of the saddest stories on Earth could be told by those refugees...

    Thanks for sharing all of this, Zeca.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #80 - June 12, 2015, 09:10 PM

    A reasonable report on BBC news just now on the situation in Lesvos, though it didn't go into any detail on the tensions on the island or the problems with the authorities.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33115945
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #81 - June 12, 2015, 09:18 PM

    There doesn't seem to be a solution to this that everyone will like. Someone will hate whatever is done. What is sure is Europe cannot cope with the conflicting demands. Resident populations who don't want the influx, economics that sometimes does (Germany low birth rate), people who want no intervention, people who want intervention in the source problem areas, refugees and asylum seekers, threw of IS type infiltrators in the boats. Crackers!
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #82 - June 13, 2015, 10:26 AM

    Human rights report from last year on the Greek operations of Frontex - the EU border agency

    https://www.fidh.org/IMG/pdf/rapport_en_web.pdf
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    At the Greek-Turkish border, the European Agency for controlling the external borders, Frontex, is taking part in a process that prevents refugees from benefitting from international protection. The latest report of the FRONTEXIT Campaign, “Frontex between Greece and Turkey: The Border of Denial”, underlines the dramatic consequences of the intensification of surveillance at that border (push-backs, lack of access to the asylum procedure, physical and verbal violence, etc.), and also the Agency’s lack of accountability.

    On the basis of dozens of testimonies and numerous exchanges with Frontex, the report documents the serious Human Rights violations committed in this centre of gravity of the Agency’s operations. The Council of Europe, the European Union’s Agency for Fundamental Rights and the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Human Rights of Migrants, as well as numerous civil society organisations have recently expressed their deep concern regarding the violations committed at that border.

    For while the Agency and the European Union take pride in the increasing number of interceptions in the Aegean sea during recent months, the official statistics say nothing of the policy’s deadly consequences: Since September 2012 our organisations have listed 18 shipwrecks, at least 191 deaths and over 30 missing. The majority of the victims are Syrian, Afghan, and Eritrean refugees, including many families and children. If their embarkations had succeeded in reaching the shores of the European Union they would certainly have been granted asylum.

    Many testimonies have confirmed the practice of collective expulsions (push-backs): Migrants’ boats are intercepted and towed to Turkey by the Greek coastguards, often with violence and without the refugees having been identified, which is contrary to international law. The report also gives instances of ‘deterrent’ practices aimed at forcing back the migrants’ embarkations.

    “Instead of taking measures to receive the refugees, the European Union, through Frontex, has persisted in an intolerable policy of closure, aiming at preventing at all costs the refugees from reaching the European coasts” said Karim Lahidji, FIDH president.

    According to a document received by our organisations from the Agency, Frontex had been informed of 27 reports of collective expulsions, and of problems of access to the asylum procedure, acts of violence, and inhuman and degrading treatment. Despite such violations, the Agency continues to provide logistic support for the operations (vessels, aircraft, thermal cameras, coastguard training, identification of migrants’ nationalities).

    “By continuing such activities on this border, although it knew of the proven and repeated violations, the Agency is in fact an accomplice” declared Olivier Clochard, Migreurop president.

    Lastly, the report highlights the lack of transparency, in particular the lack of access to the complete operational plans (the legal basis for the Agency’s operations), and the difficulty of making Frontex accountable for the implementation of the actions it coordinates. Frontex has also rejected a recommendation of the European mediator calling for the setting up of a mechanism for complaints against the Agency and its agents.

    “This response confirms the Agency’s unwillingness to be held accountable as coordinator of the operations deployed at the European Union’s external borders”, concluded Michel Tubiana, REMDH president.

    From here
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #83 - June 13, 2015, 11:31 AM

    Welcome 2 Lesvos (site run by activists with articles in Greek and English): http://lesvos.w2eu.net
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #84 - June 13, 2015, 02:06 PM

    There doesn't seem to be a solution to this that everyone will like. Someone will hate whatever is done. What is sure is Europe cannot cope with the conflicting demands. Resident populations who don't want the influx, economics that sometimes does (Germany low birth rate), people who want no intervention, people who want intervention in the source problem areas, refugees and asylum seekers, threw of IS type infiltrators in the boats. Crackers!


    There won't be. Hence why I think the opinions of the electorate should not matter at all.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #85 - June 13, 2015, 08:07 PM

    ^The Greek electorate has in fact elected a government that, at least in principle, supports the rights of refugees and the free movement of people. It has the backing of most of the Muslim minority in Thrace and has passed legislation allowing a mosque to be built in Athens (something that has been prevented for years, although the centre has a couple of surviving Ottoman era mosques, one used as a museum and the other for archaeological storage). The EU appears to be set on bringing the government down for what are really purely political reasons. Most of the coverage in the business press envisages the EU forcing a split in the ruling party, leading to a new coalition between the more moderate side and parties that will submit to European decrees. See this article for example. This probably reflects the views of the EU politicians who matter and it's probably a misjudgement of the situation, though I'm not sure. I think it does confirm that the opinions of the electorate don't really matter.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #86 - June 13, 2015, 09:14 PM

    Intimidation from the right
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=J_27buVphGI
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #87 - June 13, 2015, 10:06 PM

    Reporter Nick Barnets tweeting from Molyvos today: https://mobile.twitter.com/NickBarnets
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #88 - June 13, 2015, 10:19 PM

    https://www.facebook.com/penitinit/posts/459833010857497
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    This is indeed a dynamic situation, changing on almost a daily basis, and sometimes a lot more rumors available than facts. Lots of numbers get bandied about: a six-fold increase of refugees arriving on Lesbos from last year to this; according to the BBC, some 7000 arriving in May alone (which personally I think is seriously underestimated). What is definitely indisputable is that numbers are increasing, and the ability of local officials, volunteers, and every support network has been overwhelmed.

    Yesterday, Michael Honegger and I went to the island's capital of Mytilini specifically to visit the three refugee camps. We started in the port, where the refugees also start. The process seems to be this:

    Refugees first register with the port police, who only take the names of the people if they have space available in the camp. Since only two hundred refugees are processed and sent to Athens a day (after many arduous days 'in the system'), you can imagine the backlog. The pictures below were taken outside port police's gate. Almost all have been waiting in the open with no support or services for a few days.

    From there, the 'lucky' 200 are moved to a hellish camp. Called Kara Tepe, it was set up last month for 600 people, which was filled immediately, and is now at triple capacity. It is a squalid nightmare, with ten filthy toilets for 2000 people, but at least there are tents. There, they wait again, up to a week or perhaps longer, hoping their name will be called to be moved to the detention center, which was originally a prison -- razor wire fences, etc. -- for illegals waiting deportation. It is also filled at more than double capacity. It is the last step in the process before the refugees are given papers that allow them to travel to Athens. Usually they are in the detention center for several days.

    Except for an increasingly vocal right-wing anti-immigrant movement, no one wants it to be so horrible for the refugees. It is an overwhelming task, and the international NGOs are just beginning to pay attention to it. That said, it is increasingly clear that the island government has failed to take some basic steps to alleviate problems. For instance, it is illegal for the refugees to takes buses or taxis; and private drivers can be arrested if they transport them. So from all over the island, they have to walk to Mytilini. In our case, that is 70 kilometers away, and except for the rare Good Samaritan who risks arrest to give someone a ride, it means that very pregnant women, very old people, and infants are walking the distance.

    To address that particular and unnecessary problem, tomorrow there is an island-wide protest to form a major convey to drive refugees to Mytilini. Lesbos is the third largest Greek island, and apparently many villages are participating. We'll see what happens. My next report may be from jail!

    Not all stories are horror stories. We also visited a camp (PIKPA) built a few years ago, housing only 60 people: the disabled, pregnant women, families with very young children, and women who, in their journey, have been accidentally separated from their male family members (and are hoping somehow to find them). At PIKPA, Michael and I found some people we had helped a week ago. One older man on crutches (not the 29-year-old man crippled from childhood whom I wrote some days ago); and, a lovely family with five children whom I had worried about for the last few days. (Whew.)

    Locally, we are still providing basic food and water as the refugees arrive. There has been a slight lull of arrivals in this village. I understand a naval ship has been the cruising the channel, perhaps to discourage them from launching in Turkey -- but it is not going to stop them.

    At a transit house that I visited this morning in a nearby town, there had to be at least 200 people camped out. As they start their walk to Mytilini, it's been my initiative to make sure people have baseball caps. It's hot, the sun is brutal, and the people are delighted with them. Despite having headscarves, even the women want caps with brims to keep the fierce sun off their faces.

    I have been really astounded by how generous people have been. Thank you all so much. If anyone still wants to contribute, the easiest way seems to be through PayPal. (My account is: kosmosfilms@gmail.com.) This is a growing problem, and will be a lot worse by the end of summer. I am staying on a couple of weeks longer than originally planned because I want to make sure that the donations that I have received are used as effectively as possible.

    It is amazing to witness what is happening. It is also extremely satisfying to help in a relief effort. Those of you who know me know that I used to work in international development. I never had a chance to do emergency relief. It is as compelling as it is emotional.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #89 - June 13, 2015, 10:59 PM

    ^The Greek electorate has in fact elected a government that, at least in principle, supports the rights of refugees and the free movement of people. It has the backing of most of the Muslim minority in Thrace and has passed legislation allowing a mosque to be built in Athens (something that has been prevented for years, although the centre has a couple of surviving Ottoman era mosques, one used as a museum and the other for archaeological storage). The EU appears to be set on bringing the government down for what are really purely political reasons. Most of the coverage in the business press envisages the EU forcing a split in the ruling party, leading to a new coalition between the more moderate side and parties that will submit to European decrees. See this article for example. This probably reflects the views of the EU politicians who matter and it's probably a misjudgement of the situation, though I'm not sure. I think it does confirm that the opinions of the electorate don't really matter.


    My point was that as elected officials consulting the electorate is to ignore the job politicians were elected to do. Politicians do this all the time when it suits their political goals rather than for the good of the people. Why start caring now?
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