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  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #90 - June 14, 2015, 03:25 PM

    2,000 refugees arrive in Piraeus this morning
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #91 - June 14, 2015, 03:29 PM

    https://mobile.twitter.com/teacherdude/status/610092923259109376
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    Greece's private, oligarch owned TV stations treating arrival of refugees in Athens from Lesbos as an invasion. Racist a**holes!


    Meanwhile Die Welt claims "Greeks are not real Greeks"
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #92 - June 14, 2015, 03:35 PM

    “We were scared, it was windy in the sea and the boat's motor stopped working."
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #93 - June 14, 2015, 04:51 PM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ezeWwLhlerc
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #94 - June 14, 2015, 05:20 PM

    The EU appears to be set on bringing the government down for what are really purely political reasons. Most of the coverage in the business press envisages the EU forcing a split in the ruling party, leading to a new coalition between the more moderate side and parties that will submit to European decrees. See this article for example. This probably reflects the views of the EU politicians who matter and it's probably a misjudgement of the situation, though I'm not sure.

    Some analysis of the options for the government in this article in the Telegraph. I've no idea what will happen or what the consequences of a default would be.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/11673989/Syriza-Left-demands-Icelandic-default-as-Greek-defiance-stiffens.html
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #95 - June 14, 2015, 05:52 PM

    Photos and reports from the solidarity run in Lesvos this morning: https://www.facebook.com/HelpForRefugeesInMolyvos
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #96 - June 14, 2015, 08:17 PM

    npr report from Lesvos: http://www.npr.org/2015/06/14/414374854/flood-of-migrants-overwhelms-greek-tourist-island?
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #97 - June 14, 2015, 11:00 PM

    Mainly for Nikolaj (report in Danish): http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/udland/2015-06-14-danske-turister-er-oejenvidner-til-baadflygtninge-vi-er-dybt-chokerede
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #98 - June 14, 2015, 11:39 PM



    Remembering the Greek refugees in Aleppo by helping the Syrian refugees in Athens
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    ....
    From the comfort of their keyboards, a number of commenters on the Athens News page expressed their view on why Syrians deserve no help from Greece, with common arguments being that Syrians are somehow incompatible with Greece or Europe for religious reasons (an opinion shared by a number of expatriate Greeks) or that Syrians should seek refugee with neighbouring “Arab/Muslim” countries. It seems they are unaware of the facts: the statistics show that the vast majority of Syrian refugees have sought refuge in Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt.

    One commenter, possibly from Syria, reminded them, however, that there was time when Greeks sought refugee in Syria by posting a photograph from the Library of Congress photo archive. The undated photo, entitled “Greek refugees at Aleppo”, shows a group of raggedly dressed people, young boys to the fore, lined up, waiting to be fed. In the foreground, a woman, with a can of some sorts at her feet, stands next to a cart on which something is being cooked. Underneath the scanned photo, what’s left of a caption states “12,000 Greeks were fed by the Americans”.

    According to one account of the forced exchange of population between Greece and Turkey, as agreed under the 1923 Lausanne treaty, there were 17,000 Greek refugees from Asia Minor in various Syrian cities. So grave was the situation, that in August 1923, the head of the Greek refugees in Aleppo cabled the foreign ministry in Athens, requesting that it prohibit any more Greeks from reaching the city, where “it has become impossible to admit further refugees”.
    ....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #99 - June 15, 2015, 09:51 AM

    http://www.unhcr.org/557703c06.html
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    GENEVA, June 9 (UNHCR) – Refugee and migrant arrivals to Europe across the Mediterranean so far in 2015 have moved above 100,000, with record numbers now arriving every day in the Greek islands.

    Official figures show that as of 8 June a total of 103,000 refugees and migrants had arrived in Europe: 54,000 in Italy, 48,000 in Greece, 91 on Malta and 920 in Spain.

    The latest tally includes around 6,000 migrants and refugees who were disembarked in southern Italy last weekend in a major rescue operation coordinated by the Italian Coast Guard and joined by navy ships deployed by Frontex and from Italy, Germany, Britain, Ireland, Spain and MOAS.

    Record numbers of the refugees are arriving in flimsy rubber dinghies and wooden boats on the Greek island of Lesvos, putting an enormous strain on its capacity, services and resources.

    Half of some 600 refugees, mainly from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, who arrive daily in Greece, now come ashore on this island. Arrivals on Lesvos have grown from 737 in January and 1,002 in February, to 3,348 in March. Almost 5,000 arrived in April and over 7,200 in May.

    Hundreds of refugees leave the island for the Greek mainland every day after being identified, screened and registered. At present, however, there are around 2,200 to 2,500 waiting there for registration by the authorities.

    A screening centre in the village of Moria, a former detention centre for migrants waiting to be deported, is currently housing over 1,000 refugees.

    "This is more than twice its official capacity of 410 people. In addition, an education park in Kara Tepe is being used as temporary accommodation for around 1000 refugees," UNHCR spokesperson Adrian Edwards told a press briefing in Geneva.

    Two NGOs, Metaction and Medecins du Monde, are providing urgently needed services in Moria. Metaction is responsible for the identification, follow up and referral of unaccompanied children, while Medecins du Monde provides medical attention and psychosocial support. The Ministry of Interior's First Reception Service is responsible for the registration of the new arrivals.

    UNHCR has a permanent presence in the island's main town, Mytilini, and is working with people at the Moria centre. UNHCR has been present on Lesvos and other Greek islands since 2011, supporting the authorities' efforts to improve reception conditions and procedures, providing legal advice to newcomers about the asylum procedure in Greece, as well as their right and responsibilities, and identifying and referring people with specific needs such as unaccompanied children, people with disabilities, the elderly and victims of torture or trauma. In recent weeks, UNHCR has been distributing sleeping bags and hygiene kits to refugees in greatest need in Lesvos and other Greek islands.

    To deal effectively with the challenges posed by the large number of arrivals in Lesvos and other Greek islands, UNHCR is calling for urgent reinforcement of personnel and resources of all the state services and civil society organisations dealing with the reception of refugees. We are also seeking increased support to the affected island communities.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #100 - June 15, 2015, 10:12 AM

    Some background on Golden Dawn and the Greek far right: The Srebrenica massacre and the role of Greek volunteers
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    .... this research presents for the first time data, documents, testimonies, and visual evidence that shows that “Greek Golden Dawners, fascists, and others were there during the whole week of Srebrenica’s atrocities. They were present exactly at the spot, at the fields, storage houses, and football courts, at the time that mass executions of detained Bosnian Muslims were taking place, at the spots they were digging mass graves after having taken there Muslim men and boys .... They had a very close relationship to elite paramilitary mercenaries of the Serb-Bosnian Army. According to evidence by the International Court of Justice, they were also taking pictures from the condemned prisoners and from the executions”.... there is still a lot that needs to be done, especially regarding the attribution of responsibility. It is obvious that EEF men that were at the spot of the executions and were taking pictures were not acting as tourists. Their exact involvement needs to be investigated. At this point, the contribution of more researchers and of justice is needed. Let us not forget that war crimes are not barred ....

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #101 - June 15, 2015, 10:30 AM

    I really don't understand why the UK moans about Eastern European nations!  They are Orthodox!  Britain has an Orthodox martyr saint king!  Britain is an Orthodox nation that was conquered by a Catholic army.

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #102 - June 15, 2015, 11:40 PM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DrirVgP04E
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #103 - June 16, 2015, 12:27 AM

    I really don't understand why the UK moans about Eastern European nations!  They are Orthodox!  Britain has an Orthodox martyr saint king!  Britain is an Orthodox nation that was conquered by a Catholic army.


    It is a leftover from the Cold War and the slow economic recovery of the East. Far to many seem to assume that without communism around these nation would recover like Germany but they fail to remember the amount of money pumped into West Germany. Also they seem oblvious that East Germany still has major issues.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #104 - June 16, 2015, 04:19 PM

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1smOx_-7tzk&feature=youtu.be
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #105 - June 16, 2015, 04:27 PM

    Members of Golden Dawn’s assault battalions are not ‘activists’ (as stated by Home Office) but criminals!
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #106 - June 16, 2015, 04:36 PM

    Reporter Patrick Kingsley tweeting from Lesvos: https://mobile.twitter.com/PatrickKingsley
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #107 - June 16, 2015, 05:06 PM

    http://www.unhcr.org/557ffe639.html
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    Briefing Notes, 16 June 2015

    This is a summary of what was said by UNHCR spokesperson William Spindler – to whom quoted text may be attributed – at the press briefing, on 16 June 2015, at the Palais des Nations in Geneva.

    Initial reception conditions for refugees arriving in Greece's North Aegean and Dodecanese islands are worsening, despite the considerable efforts of local authorities and civil society. Hundreds of refugees continue to arrive every day in inflatable dinghies and wooden boats, putting a tremendous strain on the island communities that receive them.

    Since the beginning of this year, more than 55,000 refugees have arrived in Greece by sea from Turkey. The main islands receiving them are Lesvos (some 21,600 arrivals), Chios (9,400), Kos (8,900), Leros (3,900) and Samos (3,500), but people are arriving elsewhere too. More than 90 per cent are from countries experiencing war and conflict, principally Syria (over 60 per cent of arrivals this year), Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia.

    The number of arrivals is expected to increase further during the summer, when weather conditions make the sea crossing from the Turkish mainland less hazardous.

    The police, coast guard and local authorities (regional and municipal) have allocated additional personnel and resources but the response continues to fall short of needs. Private citizens, local volunteers and NGOs have all been doing distribution of food, water, shoes and clothes to the refugees. UNHCR is particularly concerned that refugees with specific needs, such as unaccompanied children, the elderly, pregnant women, people with disabilities and victims of torture, may not be receiving appropriate care.

    LESVOS

    On Lesvos, where most of the arrivals are happening, hundreds of men, women and children landing on the island's northern coast are having to walk up to 70 kilometers to the island capital, Mytilini, to be identified and registered. Agalia, a small NGO headed by a local priest in the village of Kalloni in the island's mountainous interior, has been giving food, water, medicine and providing accommodation to refugees undertaking this walk. UNHCR has also distributed sleeping bags and hygiene kits to some of the most needy. Meanwhile, reports that local volunteers in Lesvos have been threatened with arrest by police for helping refugees on the move is a serious concern. UNHCR has raised this issue with the police and has requested the municipality of Lesvos to provide transport for vulnerable refugees who are walking over the mountains from the north of Lesvos to Mytilini.

    The screening centre in the village of Moria is overcrowded and many refugees are camping outside. Doctors of the World (MdM), an international NGO, is providing medical and psycho-social services to refugees in Moria and UNHCR is giving legal information with the help of qualified interpreters from Greek NGO MetAction. An alternative site has been opened at Kara Tepe but conditions there are extremely precarious and often there are tensions among the refugees.

    CHIOS

    On Chios, the screening centre in Mersinidi is still overcrowded, housing three times more people than its official maximum capacity of 98. In addition, some 400 people are staying in tents at a site next to the screening centre. The tents, set up by the local municipality, were meant to accommodate 100 people. Conditions both inside and outside the screening centre are inadequate. UNHCR, MdM, METAction and local volunteers are distributing relief items to the most needy refugees. UNHCR is providing legal information at both sites and assists the authorities in the identification of people with specific needs.

    KOS

    On Kos, Doctors without Borders (MSF) are providing medical assistance and trying to improve conditions at the abandoned Captain Elias Hotel, where many refugee families are staying because of a lack of suitable accommodation. MSF has improved the water supply and supplied chemical toilets. UNHCR, MSF and local volunteers have been delivering basic relief items. UNHCR provides legal information to refugees with the assistance of qualified interpreters and assists the police authorities in informing persons about the registration and asylum procedures and their rights and responsibilities.

    LEROS

    On Leros, an unused hospital annex, known as Villa Artemis, has been allocated to local volunteers to accommodate refugee families who are under the responsibility of the Coast Guard. MSF and UNHCR have distributed relief items and UNHCR has been providing information to the refugees through a qualified interpreter.

    SAMOS

    On Samos, the screening centre is also overcrowded with up to 600 people staying there. Sanitation and living conditions are below minimum standards. The NGO MEDIN offers medical and psycho-social support services, while UNHCR provides legal information, assists the authorities in the identification of individuals with specific needs and distributes basic relief items, mainly to people with specific needs.

    UNHCR is ready to continue working with the Greek authorities and civil society in order to address some of these challenges, but greater support from EU Member states and institutions is urgently needed to avoid a humanitarian crisis.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #108 - June 16, 2015, 09:27 PM

    https://omniatv.com/blog/5402-lawyers-denounce-the-unlawful-prosecution-of-volunteers
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    Humanitarian organizations across Greece ranging from legal experts to volunteers in matters of immigration have co-signed the following letter which details how the failure of the state to deal with the flow of migration creates a necessity for volunteers and how unlawful is the prosecution of citizens willing to help out, according to the provisions of international treaties.

    June 11th 2015

    During the last few months the islands of the eastern Aegean have had to deal with an emergency. In Mytilene over 500 refugees arrive daily. Because of insufficient reception facilities and the increasing flow of migration, the authorities are in no position to ensure that the newly arrived at different sports on the island would be collected and transferred in safety to the centres of competent services of arrest and record which are exclusively located in Mytilene.

    Hundreds of newly arrived migrants, among which plenty of minors and vulnerable people such as pregrant women and elderly are often abandoned  at the place of arrival for 2-3 days and are forced to walk sometimes up to 60 km in order to reach the police or the port authority. The authorities are not capable to respond to the requests made by citizens regarding the tranfer of disabled persons or young babies.

    The particular routes of Molyvos-Mantamados-Mytilene and Molyvos-Kalloni-Mytilene are very dangerous and we are truly lucky not to have had any victims yet, as the drivers' visibility is compromised from the steep curves and the narrow roads.

    Volunteers in solidarity are trying to deal with the inadequacies of whatever facilities exist at these arrival points and these citizens are only trying to offer the minimum food requirements to people who have not been transferred and are left there to spend the night on the side of the road.

    Hundreds of citizens show their solidarity in practice by transferring worn-out dehydrated refugees to the city of Mytilene. These people desperately ask for help, as they are not allowed to use any other means of transportaton and suffer from exhaustion from the long distance hike.

    A week ago, a citizen of Lesvos brought a seven-month pregnant Syrian woman to the hospital as he came across her on his way. The hematocrit levels of the woman were below what's considered healthy and she was given a transfusion which was life-saving.

    Nevertheless even this spontaneous act of humanity and solidarity is faced with the threat of prosecution, despite it being necessary as the there's an overall insuffiency in how the authorities respond to the situation. In the last few days, the police have proceeded to stricter inspections of private cars, while a citizen transferring a semi-collapsed woman and her family was recently arrested and interrogated.

    The Greek legislation provides for criminal handling and sanctions for the crimes of transferring citizens of non-E.U. countries who have not been given permit to enter Greece and facilitating their transfer within the country while the use of public and private means of transport is prohibited for these migrants.

    This very legislation does not include the transfer of people in need of international protection, according to the mandates of international law (article 30 section 4 of the act 4251/2014), while it includes specific decrees for the penal responsibility of those who neglect to save one from danger (article 307 of the Penal Code- failure to provide assistance in situations of life-threatening danger).

    Besides the specific obligations of the Greek establisment to offer protection to the refugees, obligations which stem from international treaties whοse decrees are precedent over national law, the dictates of the Greek constitution are more than clear:

    ''All those in Greek territory enjoy the absolute protection of life, honour and freedom without discrimination against nationality, race, language, political and religious beliefs (article five, section 2)

    The authorities are dealing with an emergency and are incapable not only to provide decent living conditions to the newly arrived refugees, at least temporarily, but can't even ensure their safe transporation in order to begin the legal processes provided by law.

    We demand an end to the penalization of practical solidarity expressed by the people of Lesvos island and the effective discontinuance of the unacceptable prosecutions against those who exercise their humanitarian duties.


    Groups co-signing the letter
    Movement for Human Rights -Solidarity to the refugees in Samos
    Lathra - Solidarity Committee to the Refugees in Chios
    Group of Lawyers for the Rights of Refugees and Migrants (Athens)
    Group of Counsels for the advocacy of the rights of refugees and migrants (Thessaloniki)
    'All together''' village, Lesvos

    Souce: Ομάδα Δικηγόρων

    Translation: BlackCat

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #109 - June 17, 2015, 10:18 AM

    'UNHCR on holiday in Lesvos' - Eric Kempson responds to that last UNHCR statement
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IYliEYOH3TM&feature=youtu.be
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #110 - June 17, 2015, 02:26 PM

    'Moving forward together'
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=P3LoPvrhKKU
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #111 - June 17, 2015, 07:10 PM

    I wonder if, after this is all over, our actions will be looked back on in shame or simply forgotten.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #112 - June 17, 2015, 07:44 PM

    I'd like to think people will look back in shame, but I suspect that kind of awareness is more likely in Greece than it is here.

    Photo report from Lesvos: http://newirin.irinnews.org/migrant-crisis-greece-photo-feature
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #113 - June 17, 2015, 11:21 PM

    I get the impression you're taking this rather personally by the number and frequency of posts. I'm curious, with countries like Greece which has a GDP falling through the floor, politicians dealing with a public sick of immigration, the housing shortages and welfare cuts many nations are facing and the dangers of islamic state members posing as refugees, do you see this hostility likely to end any time soon? Do you see a workable solution with the sheer numbers arriving every week?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #114 - June 18, 2015, 04:38 AM

    ^
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    This gets to me personally because it feels close to home. I know there are bigger things going on, in Syria, Yemen and around the world, but I know Greece well and though I've never been to Lesvos I've spent a lot of time in similar places and I've got a good idea of how things work. I think the far right there may also be getting encouragement from the political situation nationally with the EU trying to destabilise the government. I'm not sure what the chances are of Golden Dawn getting into power as part as part of a right wing coalition but I wouldn't rule it out. In any case it would make sense for them to see this as their big opportunity and exploit the refugee issue to the full.

  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #115 - June 18, 2015, 06:50 AM

    I get the impression you're taking this rather personally by the number and frequency of posts. I'm curious, with countries like Greece which has a GDP falling through the floor, politicians dealing wit a public sick of immigration, the housing shortages and welfare cuts many nation and facing and the dangers of islamic state members posing as refugees, do you see this hostility likely to end any time soon? Do you see a workable solution with the sheer numbers arriving every week?


    Exactly, what's the point of accepting migrants if you can see it leading to discontent with large swathes of the native/resident population possibly leading to more hate crimes and civil unrest? All you are doing is riling this group, and possibly harming the migrants fleeing persecution with persecution of a new sort. So hard, so hard (the situation).
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #116 - June 18, 2015, 10:13 AM

    ^Refugees have the legal right to stay in the EU - are you proposing a change in this? (a change which certainly wouldn't be accepted by Greece). The problems for Greece owe a lot to the Dublin agreement which, at least in theory, restricts refugees to their EU country of arrival. As nearly half of refugees arrive in the EU via Greece the effect there is completely disproportionate. Greece doesn't have the capability, or any legal or moral right, to refuse to accept refugees. A lot of Greeks, especially in the north, in Athens, and a few of the islands - Lesvos in particular - are descendants of refugee families, and this makes a difference to attitudes. There's also an undercurrent of nationalism and anti-muslim feeling that goes back far beyond the current problems, and this is what the far right is tapping into. I can see possible scenarios now where the far right could get into power, either with Golden Dawn getting the fifty seat bonus in parliament as the largest party following a split in Syriza and economic meltdown, or with a coup following a period of conflict on the streets between right and left (something along the lines of Turkey in the late 70s/early 80s). The refugee issue is incidental. The real issues are whether pensions and state salaries are paid at the end of the month, whether there's a default, whether people lose any savings they have left in a bank collapse. Golden Dawn violence against refugees would just be part of the collateral damage from this.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #117 - June 18, 2015, 10:55 AM

    I'm curious, with countries like Greece which has a GDP falling through the floor, politicians dealing wit a public sick of immigration, the housing shortages and welfare cuts many nation and facing and the dangers of islamic state members posing as refugees, do you see this hostility likely to end any time soon? Do you see a workable solution with the sheer numbers arriving every week?

    Greece isn't western Europe - I think you have to look at it on its own terms. I don't think it's so much a case of a 'public sick of immigration' as a polarisation between right and left with refugees and migrants as a secondary issue. There's next to no state support for the housing and welfare of refugees so that doesn't really come in to it. Islamic State isn't an issue in Greece, Golden Dawn is. The part of the hostility that really matters is more of a political strategy by the far right which will probably get resolved one way or another along with the economic and political crisis. A workable solution depends on refugees being able to travel onwards from Greece.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #118 - June 18, 2015, 02:17 PM

    There's also an undercurrent of nationalism and anti-muslim feeling that goes back far beyond the current problems, and this is what the far right is tapping into.


    A workable solution depends on refugees being able to travel onwards from Greece.


    These.
    I even dare to say that is better for migrants to remain in Turkey than to go in Greece and cannot go further north-west.
  • Greek island refugee crisis
     Reply #119 - June 18, 2015, 04:13 PM

    ^Well relative to the two million or so refugees in Turkey the numbers crossing into Greece aren't that great, even if they look a lot on a Greek island. Individuals will have their own reasons, whether realistic or misguided. I don't think it makes much sense to generalise about whether it's better for them to stay in Turkey or not. Most of them seem to be aiming to cross Macedonia rather than staying in Greece. I'm not sure how that will end up.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aHoKz75XNQo
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=pugOJXqtrnE
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